[Faith-talk] I need prayer about the fact I had to give up my retired guide dog

[David Andrews]

There are lists that touch on aspects of travel -- it depends on what 
you mean by "travel."

There is travel and tourism for blind travel agents and others 
interested in travel,
http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/travelandtourism_nfbnet.org

and nagdu, for dog users,

http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org

David Andrews, List Owner

At 09:28 AM 4/16/2012, you wrote:
>Is there a travel list?  It would be nice to have such a thing, to ask
>questions and get advice.
>
>Masha
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>On Behalf Of David Andrews
>Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:42 AM
>To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] I need prayer about the fact I had to give up my
>retired guide dog
>
>This message is directed at everybody here.  First, people shouldn't make
>judgments about Jenny's cane skills and post them on the list.  All we know
>is what she tells us -- and anything else is just jumping to conclusions and
>isn't fair to her.
>
>Secondly, cane travel is not a legitimate topic for this list.  This is the
>"faith-talk" list, not the travel list.
>
>David Andrews, List Owner
>
>At 07:28 AM 4/16/2012, you wrote:
> >You know,
> >
> >I'm getting a little irritated with this.  I always have had and still
> >have great cane skills, but I don't feel that the cane has given me as
> >good information as a dog.
> >
> >I've been using a cane since I was a little girl and am good at it and
> >have great cane skills.  I just don't like to use it because I don't
> >like playing bumper cars in stead of just going around things.
> >
> >If you all don't consider that good cane skills, that's your opinion.
> >
> >Jenny
> >On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:40 PM, PATRICK GORMLEY wrote:
> >
> > > Yes most guide dog schools want you to have learned to use the
> > cane first. What has happened is that she's let her cane skills go and
> > needs to get them back again.
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette" <nettiecosp at yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] I need prayer about the fact I had to
> > give up myretired guide dog
> > >
> > >
> > >> i thought you had to have excellent cane travel skills to get a
> > dog, all of us who do not have dogs use our canes very effectively
> > every day. jeanette
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "don nepple"
> > >> <dnepple at hotmail.com>
> > >> To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > >> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 6:15 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] I need prayer about the fact I had to
> > give up my retired guide dog
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> hi their is nonthing rong with a cane it is a toal just like a
> > dog.if you learn to use it rite it will give you enoght in formashin
> > on the street i use on every day.you might think about this if you can
> > not learn to love your cane then maby you should not have goten a
> > god.i have lots of nfb frends that can use their gods and allso thay
> > can do just has well.so down put down cane users.read stuff frum the
> > nfbread mor on canes and gods and allso think that mostons god gides
> > users wher good cane users be for thay got a dog. this might help you
> > to learn to like the cane it does work.ask sum others on this
> > list.your frend frum idaho.don nepple.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> From: jlperdue3 at gmail.com
> > >>>> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:56:02 -0500
> > >>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] I need prayer about the fact I had
> > to give up my retired guide dog
> > >>>>
> > >>>> thanks, I'm not sure I will get another guide even though I
> > applied for one at another school.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> They were supposed to send me a medical release via email
> > early in the week to sign and email back. It hasn't come and maybe
> > it's Heavenly Father's way of saying I don't need another dog.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> My life isn't really active enough for one and my personal
> > assistant takes me almost everywhere I go.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As far as the cane travel goes. I want to break it in half and
> > scream every time I take it and leave the house. I hate it beyond
> > belief and I don't think it gives enough information about my
> > surroundings for me to consider it a safe method of travel, which is
> > why I got a dog in the first place.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I guess I will just let the dog thing go for now and swallow
> > the feelings of bitterness and hate for the cane every time I pick it
> > up to travel.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jenny
> > >>>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 6:45 PM, tina birenbaum wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > I am so sorry! feel your pain! i retried my third guide last
> > year and > don't plan to get anymore myself but still follow my school
> > just to > keep up on what they do and still support them for other
> > users, > hbubut, be kind to yourself, i found people in my church very
> > > supportive i know, going back to a cane full time was almost numbing
> > > for me such a change but i know have a collection of the things. >
> > e-mail me off list if you need to talk or i can talk with you on skype
> > > or zello. My dog just found a permanent home a couple months ago for
> > > many reasons and i've found it very helpful at times to just have >
> > people listen, not pretend to know what to say, but just sit with me >
> > and listen or just be on the emotional roller coaster with me. I'M on
> > > both skype and zello
> > >>>> > tina100372 so feel free to add me.
> > >>>> > Original message:
> > >>>> >> Hi,
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> I'm Jenny and new to the list. I had to let my retired
> > guide go to a >> new home because I had planned on getting another dog
> > in the future >> and the landlord said we couldn't have my retired
> > guide, Ramses, our >> little yip yap dog, and a new guide in the house
> > at the same time.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> I hurt beyond belief and was unable to go to church this
> > morning >> because it would've been the first Sunday without him and I
> > knew >> there would be a lot of questions as to why he wasn't with me.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> Please pray for a gentle grief and to know whether to even
> > get >> another dog. Also, I'm considering unsubscribing to my guide
> > dog >> lists because I am unsure about the whole thing altogether and
> > don't >> want to hear about dog stuff when the loss is so fresh and
> > while >> having to adjust to cane life again, yuck.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> Anyway, your prayers would be appreciated.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> In Christ,
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >> Jenny
> > >>>> >> On Apr 15, 2012, at 5:11 PM, tina birenbaum wrote:
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >>> I was asked today if I'd think about working with my
> > church worship >>> team. It's been a long time since I've done
> > anything musical and >>> just need prayer if this is what god wants me
> > to do. Sounds >>> intriguing on one hand, and nerve wracking on the
> > other. I could >>> suggest a ton of music to them and i did today ,
> > but being back >>> onstage again is a different thing altogether