[Faith-talk] Healing, or not being healed

[tina birenbaum]

i meant that what the people did to her in saying she should be healed 
was wrong.  that treatment should never happen in the first place that 
is what is wrong. I meant that some people let what happens in one or 
two churches affect their relationship with god, who they know god to 
be, to the point of losing the relattionship altogether. rather than 
just being able to say that those Churches just don't get it and are 
missing he point of Christ's message.the only way someone could be 
invited back at least it seems to me is if some people learn that we 
aren't all healed in the timing or way that they think we should be, 
that god has his reasons for us as we all are, and we should focus on 
loving each other and not driving someone to leaving a Church because 
they get the message all the time that they aren't good enough, healed, 
whatever.
Original message:
> I normally try and stay out of these discussions, as I am not very
> religious.  But, Tina I have to say I object to what you said to
> Jenny.  I think she was forced away from her church by the people who
> were there, they blamed her for her situation not the people who
> caused it.  You then justify that by praising her for finding her way
> back and not falling away.  It feels to me like your statement
> condones the way she was treated.  She should have been invited back,
> or never driven away in the first place because of something she
> couldn't control.

> This all touches on the subject of why the list was started and its
> purpose.  Basically, some people are not treated well by churches
> because of their blindness, we sinned in another life or
> whatever.  It was intended as a fafe place where people could help
> each other and move forward.

> Dave

> .  At 08:09 PM 4/28/2012, you wrote:
>> That's great that you found your way back Jenny. i know too many
>> people who have fallen away and never do come back. Good that that
>> didn't happen to you.
>> Original message:
>>> I left the church because of garbage like that, and the final straw
>>> was that I was told that my child abuse was a punishment from GOD
>>> because of some sin I had committed and needed to be punished for.

>>> I now know that's not at all the case, but both things made it
>>> difficult to want to go to church and believe in a loving Heavenly
>>> Father again.  It took a long time to have a strong relationship
>>> with him, and to find the right church, that in my belief, teaches
>>> the true gospel of Jesus Christ.  It took me from the age of 16
>>> till I was 35 to find where I truly belonged in his earthly kingdom.

>>> Healing has nothing to do with how much faith you have folks, and
>>> the quicker people stop telling people that, the more people will
>>> come to know our Heavenly Father and his glorious Son Jesus Christ,
>>> and the peace and beauty that goes with that knowledge of them.

>>> I know what it was like to have no belief in Heavenly Father at all
>>> for a while, and it was the hardest time of my life.  I feel truly
>>> and painfully sorry for those who have no faith in Heavenly Father,
>>> and his love for them.

>>> Jenny
>>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:

>>>> I agree completely. I personally get tired of the implication that
>>>> because I haven't been healed of blindness or hearing loss that I
>>>> don't have enough faith. Those who say this don't know me or my
>>>> relationship with my Lord.


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