[Faith-talk] washington seminar

[sheila]

thank you for that reminder. Some days I just need to hear and remember 
that Jesus stood up for those that others ignored and that he came to 
bring hope.
On 12/17/2013 1:09 PM, Julie McGinnity wrote:
> If you think about it, Jesus dealt with people of the world.  He told
> them when they were doing wrong or being ridiculous about one law or
> another.  Granted, most of the laws he opposed stemmed from religious
> practices, but they were still the laws.  He protested with the best
> of them!  So why shouldn't we?  Of course, we should never let our
> concerns with these things consume us or distract us from our
> Christian walk.
>
> On 12/17/13, sheila <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
>> I do happen to agree with you. I try to treat others the way that I want
>> and need to be treated. I don't see in scripture that God wants me to be
>> less than anyone else in society. I know that is the days of the bible
>> blind people were pitied or even they or there families were blamed for
>> what had happened to them.In fact well meaning folks that were concerned
>> about my healing made is harder for me to see myself as a loving God
>> that I believe in would see me.
>> On 12/17/2013 8:28 AM, Kirt wrote:
>>> Alright… And granted, I'm coming at this from the outside, but that
>>> interpretation is a little hard for me to understand. I sincerely don't
>>> mean to offend, but in my mind ignoring things like civil rights and
>>> social justice is more like… Not living in the world at all, as opposed to
>>> being in the world but not of the world. I read "in the world but not of
>>> the world"as an entreaty to get involved in the world, be concerned with
>>> the plight of our fellow human beings but don't get so caught up with
>>> material temporary things that you lose sight of God or the people around
>>> you. I'm agnostic now, but that's how I interpreted it when I was a
>>> faithful religious person and, I'm sure I'm biased, but I prefer that
>>> point of view to the idea of shunning beneficial social activism in an
>>> effort to avoid worldliness. Of course, I'm sure there's another side to
>>> this that I don't quite understand.
>>> Best,Kirt
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:27 PM, sheila <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> some folks believe that we shouldn't be interested in civil rights or
>>>> governmental affairs because we live in the world but are not of the
>>>> world. and we gave up our rights when we became christians.
>>>>> On 12/16/2013 8:36 PM, debby phillips wrote:
>>>>> Can you explain a little to me about how you think there is a conflict
>>>>> being being a strong Federationist and a strong Christian? I think I
>>>>> know what you are saying, but I'd like some specific examples, if you
>>>>> wouldn't mind.    Blessings, Debby
>>>>>
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