[Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Wed Dec 18 14:33:13 UTC 2013


Stephanie, I have a bible study on skype, and you're more than welcome to 
attend if you wish. I am a licensed southern baptist preacher. If you need 
to talk, My skype is aways on. smallistbaby1979
RJ Sandefur T.H.D
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness


>I have to say that right now, I'm feeling rather disulused with the church. 
>They were never around to help as when things got tough for our family. I 
>sing in the choir, but when I was ill recently, no one called or wanted to 
>know how I was. I have a friend who is suffering for liver cancer. Same 
>thing, they express concern but that's as far as it goes. I'd had more help 
>and support and offered the same more to those who don't believe in God. I 
>just think it's awful when those who claim to have a belief and love God 
>don't show that. I'd rather mix with those who are loving, accept me for 
>who I am, and appreciate the support.
> Right now, I'm thinking of quitting  church altogether. I still believe in 
> God, but I want to be with those who accept me for who I am, don't give 
> pat answers when things are tough, and just are humans.
> Steph
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sheila <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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> Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:08 pm
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>
>>
>>
>> hi, it isn't always easy to find support in church. We just started
>> attending a new church and I've been very open about what I expect and
>> also want to give as a part of this new family. I'm singing on christmas
>> eve and I've been told that we are welcome to participate in any way
>> that we see fit. We have been also told that we know how to accomplish
>> things and they need to learn and take their cues from us. It is
>> refreshing indeed. Now it is our place to make full use of this openness
>> so that we can continue to be taken seriously.
>> On 12/17/2013 8:29 PM, Beth Taurasi wrote:
>> > I've been told I needed new eyes.  But that's not the case.  My
>> > boyfriend is Christian, believes in the tithing and offering money to
>> > church, but I've only had one outing with friends since I went to my
>> > new church.  What I really want out of the membership at Grace
>> > Community Church in Denver is something like a church where anyone
>> > will be willing to lend a hand and that I can do the same thing for
>> > someone else.  I want to be able to, for instance, babysit.  Or maybe,
>> > at some point, I could do worship team.  And yes, I want a church ful
>> > of willing hands and people who can cook meals for me when I get a
>> > baby, cook meals for me when Blake dies or something happens to us, or
>> > even celebrate with us when our babies are dedicated.  We need a
>> > support network, and churches don't often do that.
>> > Beth
>> >
>> > On 12/17/2013 7:28 PM, rhonda cruz wrote:
>> >>   hi god made me just the way i am,
>> >>   and i don't want my vision. back,
>> >>   i am doing just fine with out it,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I have been told that story more than a few times, a preacher sees
>> >>> me somewhere, asks to pray for me, then puts his hands on my head
>> >>> and pleads the blood to heall me. I try and use it as an opertunity
>> >>> to explain that God has revieled himself to me in ways I couldn't
>> >>> imagine if I had still had my sight, but they don't seem to here a
>> >>> word.
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>> >>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> >>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> >>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:53 PM
>> >>> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I must
>> >>>> say I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness
>> >>>> as something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to
>> >>>> pity us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but I
>> >>>> know some of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't need
>> >>>> some faulse teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so they
>> >>>> can bum money off me
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