[Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

Thu Dec 19 06:02:39 UTC 2013

Debby,

Remember that all churches are different and vary in their amount of 
closeness.
I have no clue your church environment. A very large church? A medium size 
with maybe 300 or 400 active members or a small church?
Its too bad that because he felt like an outsider he through his hands  up, 
and said enough.
I can understand why he did though; it hurts to be ignored, especially if 
you are coming to a place you loved and knew.

I'm wondering if people are typically are close and greet each other? At 
large churches, this is not the case. At small to medium size main line 
churches, they do this. They have Sunday school classes which are small 
enough to get to know each other and some people form relationships outside 
church to do other things with.

Also, sadly, people act so busy now a days, that even small churches 
probably do not have members socialize outside church much.
Also, there are many people coming in and out of church. Perhaps
your husband just slipped through the cracks. I grew up in a main line 
somewhat small church. I reccon church service attendance was probably 
slightly over 100.
But, we did not know everyone there. Sunday school attendance varied; people 
came and dropped out; I'm not saying no one was committed; a handful were, 
but given the fact we had perhaps 3 or 4 sunday school classes and they 
changed either annually or in the spring,
that people may come for a class series then leave, or join another class. 
So, my dad did not know everyone, and even if someone returned, he probably 
wouldn't notice it unless they were a face he saw regularly for years and 
had spoken to them. I mean, are you really going to remember a face out of 
say 15 people in a class?
Probably not.

I guess admist our busy lives, we just do not make connections as we used 
to.

Recently, I've tried a huge non denominational church and now go to a small 
main line church which my mom is at preschool teacher.
I pretty much go to the church my dad tries out since I live at home.
I felt more connection at the smaller Methodist church. You are not going to 
connect at large theatre size churches.
Still, one of my struggles is finding a young adult bible study. I've 
checked with several churches and non have a young adults group. I've been 
hoping to meet those near my age through church, and its not happening.

So, I  see your issues, and its very valid, but I'm simply saying that not 
all churches treat members aloof.

Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: Debby Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:17 AM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Cc: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

  Hi Stephanie, wow, that is exactly why I have left church, too.  They e

Sent from mythey ignore people who are different, and it isn't just blind 
people.  My husband is a wonderful man, did sound for the church we left for 
years.  When he came back last spring after being in Southern California for 
the usual time that we used to spend, he went to church.  I was still at the 
Colorado Center,so he went by himself.  He said that nobody even said hello 
to him to welcome him back. He is sighted, but had, at one time, a weight 
issue, though he has lost tons of weight now.  He has basically told me that 
he's done with churches.  What has happened to Christians showing love for 
one another?  Oops, I better stop now before I start ranting again, because 
I promised myself that I wouldn't discuss this anymore, because it just 
makes me frustrated and angry.    Blessings,    Debbye

> On Dec 18, 2013, at 6:33 AM, "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Stephanie, I have a bible study on skype, and you're more than welcome to 
> attend if you wish. I am a licensed southern baptist preacher. If you need 
> to talk, My skype is aways on. smallistbaby1979
> RJ Sandefur T.H.D
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 1:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>
>
>> I have to say that right now, I'm feeling rather disulused with the 
>> church. They were never around to help as when things got tough for our 
>> family. I sing in the choir, but when I was ill recently, no one called 
>> or wanted to know how I was. I have a friend who is suffering for liver 
>> cancer. Same thing, they express concern but that's as far as it goes. 
>> I'd had more help and support and offered the same more to those who 
>> don't believe in God. I just think it's awful when those who claim to 
>> have a belief and love God don't show that. I'd rather mix with those who 
>> are loving, accept me for who I am, and appreciate the support.
>> Right now, I'm thinking of quitting  church altogether. I still believe 
>> in God, but I want to be with those who accept me for who I am, don't 
>> give pat answers when things are tough, and just are humans.
>> Steph
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: sheila <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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>> Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:08 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> hi, it isn't always easy to find support in church. We just started
>>> attending a new church and I've been very open about what I expect and
>>> also want to give as a part of this new family. I'm singing on christmas
>>> eve and I've been told that we are welcome to participate in any way
>>> that we see fit. We have been also told that we know how to accomplish
>>> things and they need to learn and take their cues from us. It is
>>> refreshing indeed. Now it is our place to make full use of this openness
>>> so that we can continue to be taken seriously.
>>> On 12/17/2013 8:29 PM, Beth Taurasi wrote:
>>> > I've been told I needed new eyes.  But that's not the case.  My
>>> > boyfriend is Christian, believes in the tithing and offering money to
>>> > church, but I've only had one outing with friends since I went to my
>>> > new church.  What I really want out of the membership at Grace
>>> > Community Church in Denver is something like a church where anyone
>>> > will be willing to lend a hand and that I can do the same thing for
>>> > someone else.  I want to be able to, for instance, babysit.  Or maybe,
>>> > at some point, I could do worship team.  And yes, I want a church ful
>>> > of willing hands and people who can cook meals for me when I get a
>>> > baby, cook meals for me when Blake dies or something happens to us, or
>>> > even celebrate with us when our babies are dedicated.  We need a
>>> > support network, and churches don't often do that.
>>> > Beth
>>> >
>>> > On 12/17/2013 7:28 PM, rhonda cruz wrote:
>>> >>   hi god made me just the way i am,
>>> >>   and i don't want my vision. back,
>>> >>   i am doing just fine with out it,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I have been told that story more than a few times, a preacher sees
>>> >>> me somewhere, asks to pray for me, then puts his hands on my head
>>> >>> and pleads the blood to heall me. I try and use it as an opertunity
>>> >>> to explain that God has revieled himself to me in ways I couldn't
>>> >>> imagine if I had still had my sight, but they don't seem to here a
>>> >>> word.
>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>> >>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> >>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> >>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:53 PM
>>> >>> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I must
>>> >>>> say I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness
>>> >>>> as something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to
>>> >>>> pity us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but I
>>> >>>> know some of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't need
>>> >>>> some faulse teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so they
>>> >>>> can bum money off me
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