[Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

[Snow White Dove]

Hi,

I had the chance to join one that big.

I liked the church and its pastor.  It had small groups called life groups that got together and studied the Bible or socialized or both.

Anyway.  I discovered that whether I like it or not, I’m Catholic true and true.

That’s why I like going to this church I’m at now.  I have friends that come out and help us grocery shop and other things.

We also will get together some days and say the Rosary together as a group.  

We get together after mass too.  The whole congregation almost, not just the ones that want free food.

Most Catholic churches I’ve been to are like, get there right before the mass, and leave right as the last hymn is starting.

I bet there’s a traffic jam in the parking lot.

If I do go to one of those, I just hang out afterward with a friend of mine and pray for a while before we leave so that we can spend time in the presence of the body and blood of Christ and then the crowds aren’t so bad either.

Jenny
On Dec 18, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Maureen Pranghofer <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:

> Your church sounds lots like ours.  It's a large church, about 5000 members and they say right off the bat "If you want to get connected, become involved, people won't come to you."  Consequently I have written music for the church, was on worship team for years, have contributed and been in Bible studies, am the scheduler for a ministry doing home repair to widows and abused women and disabled folks, am a hospital and nursing home visitor and in a prayer group.  My husband is taking his 7th trip to Haiti where the church built a home for disabled children.  Even though he is in a wheelchair and born with no arms they let him do this.  So we enjoy giving. The church had done lots of ome mantainance things for us, put up our Christmas tree, has youth come once a month to help with whatever we have need of doing, provided me a reader, and as been involved in our lives in so many ways but it's because the church is not the organization, leadership or building it's the people.  We do exposatory preaching working our way through Bible books week after week just a few verses at a time.  Took the congregation 5 years to study Matthew.  Maybe there is a relationship between ow the church is in the Word and the way people are treated, don't know just wondering.  I apologize for this being so long.
> Maureen
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> -----Original Message----- From: Poppa Bear
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:13 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
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> This is all diffirent for me and sounds a little odd because in my case I am
> usually the care taker for those around me, I invite those who have less
> over for dinner, xmas, and Thanksgiving. We end up being a small refuge for
> quite a few families and have a couple give and take open door relationships
> with members of my Church. I have a gentlemen  who is faithful as a
> grandfather clock to call me every friday to see if I want to go to the mens
> breakfast and pick me up bright and early every time. Another lady picks up
> my girls every morning to take them to the Christian school. The thing is
> that our Pastor really drives home the point of living out active Christian
> lives that consist of faithful Christian service that leads to great
> oppertunities to love and bless others and as people start to listen to his
> preaching from the word they find that the truth that "it is better to give
> then to receive" is a faithful and tru promis. Never the less I am sure that
> there are plenty of broken and lonely hearts in my Church just dying for a
> closer relationship with somebody in the body.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
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> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:10 PM
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>> Unforchantely, that is all to comon place. RJ
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
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>> 
>>> I've an answer to this problem about the church pitying us because of our blindness, and I read this statement many years ago in a book about blind welfare from the RNIB.  The main reason, as I and the author of the book see it, is that there is yet no practical substitution to the human eye. For some deaf and hard of hearing people there is the cochlear implant and for people who have lost limbs or arms there are artificial ones which, although naturally not like the originals in their totality, nevertheless work to some extent.  Unfortunately even in my church, even though they don't pity me, no one will invite me over to their place for a meal and some good conversation.  This happened after our Thanksgiving Day service, and I pray it won't happen after Christmas Day services either.  Hope that was an adequate explanation.  Paul
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:53 PM
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
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>>> 
>>>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I must say I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness as something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to pity us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but I know some of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't need some faulse teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so they can bum money off me
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