[Faith-talk] Blind people in 2014. Challenges and barriers.

Tue Dec 31 18:23:20 UTC 2013

Hello Doris, I did not know that you were not an English native speaker. The 
reason why is because so many people are using voice recognition softwear to 
type their email messages and little mistakes often slip through the cracks 
into the messages so I can't always tell who may not be an native English 
speaker.
Mustafa uses skype, and I am going to get my skype up here at some point, 
and if you use skype yourself, and if it is agreeable to Mustafa, perhaps at 
some point all three of us can talk together via skype and I can help in 
some way.
Regarding Mustafa's origenal message, I did make some changes to it and they 
were in the body of the message that I sent last night, I did not note each 
change because I figured that he would catch them for him self and I didn't 
think that anyone else would even consider the matter. re reading over what 
I changed in his message last night I noticed some other areas that I would 
have changed, but overall he has a wonderful grasp of English grammer.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doris and Chris" <chipmunks at gmx.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blind people in 2014. Challenges and barriers.


> Dear Papa Bear,dear Mustafa,
>
> I am not sure I understand if you already corrected some of Mustafa's 
> writing or were just suggesting he would do so in the future.
>
> I think you probably know That English is not my native language either 
> and I am very very intersted in seeing any corrections or you might have 
> to suggest - especially since you referred to Mustafa's register of 
> language rather than glichesin his usage or grammar etc.
>
> I am a language buff and I know I am good but I am not perfect certainly 
> and I am always always thankful if someone corrects me or points out how I 
> could improve.
>
> I read quite fast with speech and I have my punctuation level set to 
> "none" and do not use a Braille device either. I have on a few occasions 
> commented on Mustafa's English myself but find that his English is quite 
> good in general and I actually would have a hard time for the most part to 
> catch anything indicating that he is not a native speaker. There are a 
> booboos but certainly not frequent ones.
>
> ICould you please include me on any language correspondence and could you 
> please indicate corrections/suggestions? If you think this goes beyond the 
> scope of this list, I'd happily do any exchange off list. I hope, Mustafa, 
> this would be agreeable with you. you are someone my husband Chris and I 
> just really appreciate and enjoy having around and being in contact with. 
> And we just simply have come to like you.
>
> My email address is
>
> chipmunks at gmx.net
>
> Since you expressed desire to improve and practice your spoken English, I 
> would suggest either a language exchange site where you practice and teach 
> your native language (Egyptian Arabic?) in exchange for the same in 
> English  by your language partner or you could sign up for a  voice chat 
> site. For a natural and connected exchange, I find there are at least two 
> exclusively Christian voice chat sites though you will find these less 
> varied in their membership's background and less open to variety. I might 
> get shot for saying that some of Islam makes sense to me and that I feel I 
> can have fellowship with Both Muslims and Jews as we share the same roots. 
> It may be inersting to to you guys that an early episode of "Adventures in 
> Odyssy", a Christian Radio drama" gives "Allah" as one of the many 
> Christian names for God. I unfortunately have forgotten the explanation.
>
>
>
> God Bless,
>
> Doris
>
>
>
>
> At 11:27 PM 2013/12/30 -0900, you wrote:
>>Hello Mustafa, I know that you are always seeking to improve your ability 
>>to communicate in the English language, so I took a little time to make 
>>some changes in what you emailed. I understand that one of the hardest 
>>things to do is write in another language. There is sometimes difficulty 
>>in knowing how to mix the informal and formal aspects of conversational 
>>writing when you are not a native speaker of that particular language. I 
>>hope this is helpful to you in some way.
>>
>>
>>
>>Hello everyone, I hope that you are all doing well, and that all of your 
>>Holiday plans work out, and if not then I hope they go even better than 
>>you anticipated.
>>
>>Today I intend to talk about the ambitions I have for blind people and 
>>some goals for blind people in 2014. As I talk about these plans for blind 
>>individuals, I am not talking about the domestic aspect of our goals, but 
>>rather, my aim is to ask this question globally.
>>
>>Have we really improved blind people's employment rate in some parts of 
>>the world?
>>
>>As blind people, I think we need to be more interconnected on an 
>>international basis. I believe that we are very efficient at doing this on 
>>an individual level, But, we should make an effort to create more 
>>organizational groups with greater levels of communication.
>>
>>I have always wanted to reach the World Blind Union, because I would like 
>>to communicate with them regarding the employment rate for   blind people 
>>in Egypt, and reach their international coordinator for some partnership 
>>proposals.
>>
>>     I have looked at their website under the contact us page, and I did 
>> not find that particular information.
>>
>>I have learned that they are located in Toronto Canada, but I am sure that 
>>they are willing to reach out to blind people outside of their country.
>>
>>I would like to be able to benefit from their experience on tackling 
>>legislative issues, what obstacles they have had to confront, and how they 
>>were successful to overcome them.
>>
>>I am convinced that the main barrier for employment for the blind is a 
>>deficiency of legal guarantees. As a community, We should really make it a 
>>priority to work on this. We should not work on this randomly or 
>>individually, but We should instead work together to integrate and 
>>establish legislation that would increase the employment rate for adequate 
>>blind applicants. Here in Egypt, we need to permanently abandon the 5% 
>>law, because  the employment rate should essentially depend on a person's 
>>qualifications and experience, in spite of any other irrelevant 
>>circumstances bassed on a %.
>>Canada is known for being the top worldwide country on recognizing the 
>>human rights principles.  Thus, I would like to benefit and learn from 
>>their experiences because I believe that by understanding their policies 
>>it would help to further these goals.
>>Finally, I want to add another personal goal for 2014. I would like to 
>>participate in improving the employment rate for blind people in Egypt, by 
>>emphasizing the qualifications of the individual, instead of hiring a 
>>certain number of individuals to fulfill a %. This is my battle for 
>>Egyptian blind people in 2014. And I will initially relate to the 
>>constitution draft, which has been scheduled for referendum in the 
>>fourteenth and the fifteenth of January. This draft supposedly guarantees 
>>the right for blind people, but we will see how true this is.
>>
>>I wish you all a very pleasant provenience in 2014.
>>
>>Thank you so much for taking the time to read my post, and Happy New Year.
>>
>>Mostafa.
>>
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>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mostafa" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>
>>To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:38 PM
>>Subject: [Faith-talk] Blind people in 2014. Challenges and barriers.
>>
>>
>>>Hello everyone.
>>>
>>>I hope you all are keeping really well, and that your Holiday goes 
>>>typically as planned, if not even better.
>>>
>>>Today I intended to talk about our ambitions for blind people goals in 
>>>2014.
>>>
>>>What we have planned on that regard so far?
>>>
>>>I am not talking about the domestic level.
>>>
>>>My aim is to ask that question globally.
>>>
>>>Have we improved the blind people employment rate in some parts of the 
>>>world?
>>>
>>>As blind people, I think  we need to be more interconnected on 
>>>international basis.
>>>
>>>I think, that we are significantly prosperous on doing that on individual 
>>>level.
>>>
>>>But, we demand to proceed into organizational and integrative levels.
>>>
>>>I always wanted to reach the World Blind Union.
>>>
>>>I want to communicate with them regarding the employment rate for   blind 
>>>people in Egypt.
>>>
>>>I want to reach their international coordinator for partnership 
>>>proposals.
>>>
>>>     I looked at their website under the contact us page, and I could not 
>>> find that particular entitlement.
>>>
>>>I just learned that they based in Toronto, Canada.
>>>
>>>But I am sure that they are keen to reach out.
>>>
>>>I want to benefit from their experience on tackling the legislative 
>>>procedures, what obsticles they had to confront, and how they were 
>>>successful to perfectly overcome them.
>>>
>>>I am incisively convinced, that the main barrier of blind people 
>>>employment is the deficiency of the legal guarantees.
>>>
>>>We demand to substantially work on that.
>>>
>>>We should not work on that  randomly or individually.
>>>
>>>We rather have to unitedly integrate on establishing the legislation that 
>>>impressively amends the employment rate for adequate blind applicants.
>>>
>>>     In Egypt, we have to permanently abandon the 5% law.
>>>
>>>The employment rate has  to essentially depend on your qualifications and 
>>>achievments, in spite of any irrelevant circumstances.
>>>
>>>Canada is known for being the top worldwide country on recognizing the 
>>>humanrights principles.
>>>
>>>  Thus, I want to benefit from any experience therein on that regard.
>>>
>>>Finally, I want to add another personal goal for 2014.
>>>
>>>I want to participate in improving the employment rate for blind people 
>>>in Egypt, and it has to depend on the qualification, not a certain 
>>>percentage to be fulfilled.
>>>
>>>This is my battle for Egyptian blind people in 2014.
>>>
>>>And I will initially relate to the constitution draft, which has been 
>>>scheduled for referendum in the fourteenth and the fifteenth of January.
>>>
>>>It supposedly guarantees that right for blind people.
>>>
>>>We will see about that.
>>>
>>>I wish you all a pleasant provenience of 2014.
>>>
>>>Thank you so much for reading my post, and Happy New Year.
>>>
>>>Mostafa.
>>>
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>>
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