[Faith-talk] Need prayer
Kishia
kishia.mason at gmail.com
Sat May 11 10:35:34 UTC 2013
Hello Ronda. I will definitely pray for you, as I know how painful the loss
of a loved one feels. My grandmother recently went to be with the Lord and
you can take comfort in the fact that if your teacher was a born-again
believer she is with Hi and you will see her again one day. Stay strong.
Kishia
----- Original Message -----
From: <faith-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 11:00 AM
Subject: Faith-talk Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10
> Send Faith-talk mailing list submissions to
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> faith-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> faith-talk-owner at nfbnet.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of Faith-talk digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: once saved always saved???? (Timothy Clark Music)
> 2. Re: once saved always saved???? (Bekah Felix)
> 3. Daily Thought for Thursday, May 9, 2013 (Paul)
> 4. Re: once saved always saved???? (Timothy Clark Music)
> 5. i'm holding bible readings via my twitter and my facebook
> (Timothy Clark Music)
> 6. Re: Daily Thought for Thursday, May 9, 2013 (Sheila Leigland)
> 7. Needing prayer. (rhonda cruz)
> 8. Re: Needing prayer. (Sheila Leigland)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 14:33:57 -0400
> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] once saved always saved????
> Message-ID: <F73D0745-17E6-4B06-92F6-0F77A36CF995 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> it's not based on works. you are correct on that but if you are a believer
> in christ and you as an adult leaves the shelter if you will of the lord
> and you commit sins the only way back into the grace of the lord is by
> repenting of those sins you've made as an adult.
> a child is more likely to accept christ but as an adult that child might
> stray away and then they'll have to repent of their sins. every time i sin
> i'm always repenting. it's amazing to me how many people by life insurence
> for when they die but they don't get eternal life assurence by repenting
> when they sin.
> god bless
> Timothy
> Your friend in the music industry
> bandcamp
> http://www.timothyclark13.bandcamp.com
> twitter
> @timothyclark13
> Skype
> djtimothy1
> facebooks
> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclark13
> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclarkmusic
> reverbnation
> http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
> youtube
> http://www.youtube.com/timothyclarkoffical
> phone
> 7244011224
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 9, 2013, at 11:39 AM, rhonda cruz wrote:
>
>> all, i am coming from a house hold, that believes in god.
>> yes, i was saved. when i was a kid.
>> and also.
>> i don't know what elce to say.
>> god is wonderful.
>> h
>> i
>> On May 8, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Julie McGinnity wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed. The idea is that if a person is truly saved, he or she will
>>> not do those things. Also, remember that we all sin. If our God
>>> turned away from us every time we told a lie or gossiped, it would be
>>> a completely different faith. Instead he loves us and shows the right
>>> path when we ask for guidance. I'm not so great at explaining this
>>> stuff, but that's my best attempt for now.
>>>
>>> On 5/8/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>> Genuine Christians will not do those things. God may hide His face
>>>> from us for awhile, but He will never take away anything He has given
>>>> us as blessings unless He has something better.
>>>>
>>>> At 10:29 PM 5/8/2013, you wrote:
>>>>> the question laid out before us tonight is this. once saved, are you
>>>>> always saved.
>>>>> if you accept god into your life and you serve the lord faithfully
>>>>> then i would have to say that you would be rewarded in life eternal.
>>>>> but, if you are saved as a child and you murder or rape someone or
>>>>> do something sinister will you still be saved?
>>>>> i personally don't think so.
>>>>> god can gain favor with you but god can also take his blessings away.
>>>>> i think if you dishonor god and you don't repent you'll be judged
>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>> i'm just wandering, what are your thoughts on this subject?
>>>>> i for one think you can lose the favor and the blessings of god.
>>>>> god bless
>>>>> Timothy
>>>>> Your friend in the music industry
>>>>> bandcamp
>>>>> http://www.timothyclark13.bandcamp.com
>>>>> twitter
>>>>> @timothyclark13
>>>>> Skype
>>>>> djtimothy1
>>>>> facebooks
>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclark13
>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclarkmusic
>>>>> reverbnation
>>>>> http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
>>>>> youtube
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/timothyclarkoffical
>>>>> phone
>>>>> 7244011224
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>> for Faith-talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/mentink%40frontiernet.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> Faith-talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julie McG
>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member, National
>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>> life."
>>> John 3:16
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Faith-talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/rhondaprincess%40gmail.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Faith-talk mailing list
>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Faith-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/timothyclarkmusic%40me.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 13:45:50 -0600
> From: Bekah Felix <rc_jc2 at hotmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] once saved always saved????
> Message-ID: <BAY404-EAS1439645C6FF62F3DA8C92D3BAA40 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> It's my understanding that as long as you recognize your faults and keep
> coming back to God, you're okay. If you become a Christian as a child,
> turn away from God when you're older, and begin to sin, you're not saved
> unless you realize what you're doing and turn back to God. But as long as
> you stay in that point where you've turned from God, you're not saved.
>
> Rebekah Felix
> Author of In the Family
> Http://bekahfelix.tripod.com
>
> On May 9, 2013, at 9:40 AM, "rhonda cruz" <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> all, i am coming from a house hold, that believes in god.
>> yes, i was saved. when i was a kid.
>> and also.
>> i don't know what elce to say.
>> god is wonderful.
>> h
>> i
>> On May 8, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Julie McGinnity wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed. The idea is that if a person is truly saved, he or she will
>>> not do those things. Also, remember that we all sin. If our God
>>> turned away from us every time we told a lie or gossiped, it would be
>>> a completely different faith. Instead he loves us and shows the right
>>> path when we ask for guidance. I'm not so great at explaining this
>>> stuff, but that's my best attempt for now.
>>>
>>> On 5/8/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>> Genuine Christians will not do those things. God may hide His face
>>>> from us for awhile, but He will never take away anything He has given
>>>> us as blessings unless He has something better.
>>>>
>>>> At 10:29 PM 5/8/2013, you wrote:
>>>>> the question laid out before us tonight is this. once saved, are you
>>>>> always saved.
>>>>> if you accept god into your life and you serve the lord faithfully
>>>>> then i would have to say that you would be rewarded in life eternal.
>>>>> but, if you are saved as a child and you murder or rape someone or
>>>>> do something sinister will you still be saved?
>>>>> i personally don't think so.
>>>>> god can gain favor with you but god can also take his blessings away.
>>>>> i think if you dishonor god and you don't repent you'll be judged
>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>> i'm just wandering, what are your thoughts on this subject?
>>>>> i for one think you can lose the favor and the blessings of god.
>>>>> god bless
>>>>> Timothy
>>>>> Your friend in the music industry
>>>>> bandcamp
>>>>> http://www.timothyclark13.bandcamp.com
>>>>> twitter
>>>>> @timothyclark13
>>>>> Skype
>>>>> djtimothy1
>>>>> facebooks
>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclark13
>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclarkmusic
>>>>> reverbnation
>>>>> http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
>>>>> youtube
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/timothyclarkoffical
>>>>> phone
>>>>> 7244011224
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>> for Faith-talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/mentink%40frontiernet.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> Faith-talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Julie McG
>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member, National
>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>> life."
>>> John 3:16
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Faith-talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/rhondaprincess%40gmail.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Faith-talk mailing list
>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Faith-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/rc_jc2%40hotmail.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 17:37:29 -0400
> From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
> To: <iccshare at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Daily Thought for Thursday, May 9, 2013
> Message-ID: <570D16F565C94CEE8BECF5987FA8D36F at paul>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Well folks, we're well into, as the old song says, "the merry merry month
> of May." I hope that your day is going well or went well, depending on
> what time of day it is when you read this.
>
> We conclude our series on the topic of encouragement with an article
> written by Dr. Bill Patterson which originally appeared in the December
> 11, 2011 issue of The Lookout magazine. The title of his article is "Sons
> and Daughters of Encouragement" and is rendered as follows:
>
> In my 20's I decided I didn't want to be a grumpy old man when I reached
> my senior years. I wanted to be a person of encouragement, a person not
> wrapped up in self but in God and others. Then it hit me: grumpy old men
> usually get their start as grumpy young men. I needed to work at being a
> God-yielded, encouraging young man because what I did that day and the
> next would set the pattern for my later years. I didn't want to end up
> like King Saul, full of bitterness, envy and despair. I wanted to end up
> like Barnabas, a man who gave of his time, energy and resources to build
> up others.
>
> A Biblical Encourager
> LeRoy Eims served as a campus minister at the University of Pittsburgh.
> During his first year on the job a number of students came to know the
> Lord. Eims often checked on their Bible study, Scripture memory, and
> Christian growth. Some began to avoid him and gave him the name, "Old Mr.
> Check-up."
>
> Eims wrote, "I soon learned it was hard to help a person grow in Christ if
> he was avoiding me, so I changed and became known as "Mr. Encouragement."
> The more I encouraged, the more things changed. The new converts grew and
> we had great fellowship."
>
> Can you think of times when an encouraging word or act helped shape your
> life? Someone loved you, spoke kindly to you, gave you a chance or put an
> arm around your shoulder and it changed you. Their encouragement became
> the cure for your grief, your discouragement or your loneliness. You can
> be that encourager for others in need.
>
> Barnabas was a Levite from Cyprus (Acts 4:36). His name means, "Son of
> Encouragement." The apostles gave him a name that matched his character,
> and it stuck.
>
> Ways To Encourage Others
> We can learn a great deal about encouragement from Barnabas. He
> encouraged others through his giving. The first time Luke mentions
> Barnabas in the book of Acts, he records how Barnabas sold a field and
> gave the money to the church in Jerusalem for the needs of others (Acts
> 4:37). Later Barnabas accompanied Paul to Jerusalem with the Antioch
> Christians' offering for the poor. Do you know some Christians or
> churches in need? Can you encourage them by giving?
>
> Greater than giving his money, Barnabas gave of himself. The name
> Barnabas (_uios _parakleseos) literally means, "son called alongside."
> Whenever there was a need, the early church could count on Barnabas to be
> there. We see it when he welcomed Saul, the Christian persecutor, after
> his Damascus Road experience. Other Christians were skeptical of Saul's
> conversion, but Barnabas wrapped an arm around his shoulder, took him to
> the apostles, and vouched for him (9:26-28).
>
> Do you know a new Christian you can encourage by sticking up for him or
> her? Could you sit with someone in church and introduce him to other
> members?
>
> Have you ever opened your car door, sat in the driver's seat, inserted the
> key, but heard nothing? The battery had died and no cranking sound
> emerged. You needed a person with a live battery and jumper cables to
> give your car a boost. When we encourage others, we become their battery
> charger.
>
> Learning by Example
> Barnabas encouraged others by recognizing their potential. The church in
> Jerusalem sent Barnabas as a missionary to Antioch. The work was so
> successful that he needed help. Barnabas made the 80-mile journey to
> Tarsus to persuade Saul (by then known as Paul) to join him.
>
> That kicked the apostle Paul's ministry into high gear. Later he and Paul
> went on a missionary journey from Antioch. Barnabas led the group at
> first and took his nephew John Mark along. Although John Mark quit during
> his first missionary journey, Barnabas didn't give up on John Mark and
> carried him along on another mission trip. By then John Mark was "up and
> running" for the Lord.
>
> Some people seem especially gifted of seeing something of promise in
> others. All of this can practice this, however. If you teach a Sunday
> school class, is there another promising teacher you can use as an
> assistant or a substitute? Can you teach others to witness by taking them
> with you when you share the gospel? Can you take someone under your wing
> and help her achieve her potential in the Lord? Why not pause right now to
> ask the Lord to show you someone for whom you can be a Barnabas.
>
> More Lessons From Barnabas
> Barnabas also encouraged others by giving his time. Often people need our
> presence more than they need our money. Barnabas went to Antioch when
> there was a great need. He preached the gospel there and led many to
> Christ. When the church at Antioch prayed, they felt led to set aside
> Barnabas and Paul for mission work.
>
> Barnabas continued to give his time and energy. He stretched beyond his
> cultural background to reach out to others for Christ. Is there a person
> of another geographical or cultural background to whom you can witness, or
> with whom you can spend time and encourage in the faith?
>
> Barnabas planted churches in Jerusalem, Antioch, and all over Asia Minor.
> His name is synnomymous with encouraging others for Christ. Perhaps the
> greatest way we can encourage others is to plant churches, witness, and
> nurture others in the Lord.
>
> If you felt God leading you to plant a church, would you? If you felt Him
> lead you to go on a mission journey or to give three years of your life to
> help a new group of believers, would you?
>
> Barnabas never regretted giving his time, his presence, his witness, his
> money, or his encouragement. You and I will be glad we gave our time and
> resources to encourage others, too.
>
> A Ministry of Encouragement
> When God begins a work, He usually starts with a human instrument. Could
> you begin a ministry of encouragement in your church? Choose a group of
> like-minded people and begin to meet with them. Seek God's help as you
> consider how you can become sons and daughters of encouragement.
>
> What about writing a letter or sending a card to those who visit your
> worship services? Studies show that within the first three months of
> moving into a new area, a family will be much more open to an invitation
> to worship. Develop a group of people who have a "new member"
> consciousness to reach out to new people with a welcome basket of goodies
> and an invitation to church.
>
> How many families move to a new area, attend church a time or two, then
> drop out because no one took the time to help them bridge the friendship
> gap? People aren't looking for a friendly church. They are looking for a
> friend in church. You can be a son or daughter of encouragement to them
> through a phone call, a friendly visit, a word of welcome, a listening
> ear, or a smile. You might offer to meet with them to discuss how to do
> the things necessary for life in a new neighborhood (water, trash
> collection, schools, groceries, governmental services, and so on). You
> may be used of the Lord to raise up a person who becomes like Paul for our
> day.
>
> A couple I know sat in a different area of the sanctuary each week. They
> chose their seat by standing in the back to observe the congregation. If
> a visiting family sat in one area, they would sit nearby and invite them
> to lunch after the services. With that kind of unexpected encouragement,
> many guests became active members.
>
> If we have money in our pockets, we can encourage those in need of food or
> clothing. If we have any love in our hearts, we can fortify those in need
> of acceptance. If we have time on our hands, we can strengthen those in
> need of Christian growth. In a thousand ways we can inspire, cheer,
> comfort, and give help and hope. Like Barnabas, we can be sons and
> daughters of encouragement.
>
> More Encouragement From God's Word
> "For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so
> that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement
> they provide we might have hope. May the God who gives endurance and
> encouragement give you the same attitude of mind toward each other that
> Christ Jesus had" (Romans 15:4, 5).
>
> "Therefore encourage one another with these words" (1 Thessalonians 4:18).
>
> "Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact
> you are doing" (1 Thessalonians 5:11).
>
> "Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct, rebuke
> and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction" (2 Timothy
> 4:2).
>
> "Similarly, encourage the young men to be self-controlled" (Titus 2:6).
>
> "Encourage and rebuke with all authority" (Titus 2:15).
>
> "But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that
> none of you may be hardened by sin's deceitfulness" (Hebrews 3:13).
>
> "God did this so that ... we who have fled to take hold of the hope set
> before us may be greatly encouraged" (Hebrews 6:18).
>
> "Let us consider how we may spur another on toward love and good deeds,
> not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but
> encourage one another--and all the more as you see the Day approaching"
> (Hebrews 10:24, 25). BP
>
> And there you have Bob's article which, I hope and pray, was of spiritual
> benefit to you as the Lord led you to read and ponder what was written.
>
> aI'd like to close this message with a brief testimony of encouragement.
> When the Lord led me to join my new church, Rosemont Community Church, it
> was the third Sunday in August and their Communion Sunday. Even though I
> was a new member, they allowed me to partake of the elements. The
> pastor's wife, Lisa Cook, sat in the same pew with me and gave me pointers
> about the order of service as well as a personal welcome. After the
> service was over one of the deacons, John by name, invited me to lunch at
> an Italian style cafe and, what was more, he picked up the tab. The
> pastor would have joined us, but he was detained by more pressing and
> necessary ministerial duties. It was there that I met two wonderful
> single Christians, Beverly and Pam, and, although Pam lived a distance
> from my neighbborhood, we greet each other every Sunday, whereas Beverly
> and I go out to lunch every Thursday at a local eatery.
>
> But, beyond all this and uppermost in my mind, Pastor Cook's messages each
> Lord's Day are right on target, for which I am eternally thankful to God
> and to him. I only mention all this because, if some of you may recall,
> you were praying that I'd find a good church, and your prayers produced
> fruit.
>
> And now until tomorrow when, Lord willing another Daily Thought article
> will be presented, may the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob just keep us
> safe, individually and collectively, throughout this night or day and
> especially in these last days in which we live. Your Christian friend and
> brother, Paul
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 18:30:29 -0400
> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] once saved always saved????
> Message-ID: <F54D8897-2DB3-47BC-9A94-B3FAE4E3C1FD at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Rebecca i agree with you. and see, that's my point. we should always be in
> prayer. and we should always be asking for forgiveness to insure our
> insurense in the lord.
> god bless
> Timothy
> Your friend in the music industry
> bandcamp
> http://www.timothyclark13.bandcamp.com
> twitter
> @timothyclark13
> Skype
> djtimothy1
> facebooks
> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclark13
> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclarkmusic
> reverbnation
> http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
> youtube
> http://www.youtube.com/timothyclarkoffical
> phone
> 7244011224
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 9, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Bekah Felix wrote:
>
>> It's my understanding that as long as you recognize your faults and keep
>> coming back to God, you're okay. If you become a Christian as a child,
>> turn away from God when you're older, and begin to sin, you're not saved
>> unless you realize what you're doing and turn back to God. But as long as
>> you stay in that point where you've turned from God, you're not saved.
>>
>> Rebekah Felix
>> Author of In the Family
>> Http://bekahfelix.tripod.com
>>
>> On May 9, 2013, at 9:40 AM, "rhonda cruz" <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> all, i am coming from a house hold, that believes in god.
>>> yes, i was saved. when i was a kid.
>>> and also.
>>> i don't know what elce to say.
>>> god is wonderful.
>>> h
>>> i
>>> On May 8, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Julie McGinnity wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed. The idea is that if a person is truly saved, he or she will
>>>> not do those things. Also, remember that we all sin. If our God
>>>> turned away from us every time we told a lie or gossiped, it would be
>>>> a completely different faith. Instead he loves us and shows the right
>>>> path when we ask for guidance. I'm not so great at explaining this
>>>> stuff, but that's my best attempt for now.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/8/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>> Genuine Christians will not do those things. God may hide His face
>>>>> from us for awhile, but He will never take away anything He has given
>>>>> us as blessings unless He has something better.
>>>>>
>>>>> At 10:29 PM 5/8/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>> the question laid out before us tonight is this. once saved, are you
>>>>>> always saved.
>>>>>> if you accept god into your life and you serve the lord faithfully
>>>>>> then i would have to say that you would be rewarded in life eternal.
>>>>>> but, if you are saved as a child and you murder or rape someone or
>>>>>> do something sinister will you still be saved?
>>>>>> i personally don't think so.
>>>>>> god can gain favor with you but god can also take his blessings away.
>>>>>> i think if you dishonor god and you don't repent you'll be judged
>>>>>> accordingly.
>>>>>> i'm just wandering, what are your thoughts on this subject?
>>>>>> i for one think you can lose the favor and the blessings of god.
>>>>>> god bless
>>>>>> Timothy
>>>>>> Your friend in the music industry
>>>>>> bandcamp
>>>>>> http://www.timothyclark13.bandcamp.com
>>>>>> twitter
>>>>>> @timothyclark13
>>>>>> Skype
>>>>>> djtimothy1
>>>>>> facebooks
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclark13
>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclarkmusic
>>>>>> reverbnation
>>>>>> http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
>>>>>> youtube
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/timothyclarkoffical
>>>>>> phone
>>>>>> 7244011224
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>>>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>> for Faith-talk:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/mentink%40frontiernet.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> Faith-talk:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/kaybaycar%40gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Julie McG
>>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member, National
>>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
>>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>>> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>> life."
>>>> John 3:16
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> Faith-talk:
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/rhondaprincess%40gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Faith-talk mailing list
>>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Faith-talk:
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/rc_jc2%40hotmail.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Faith-talk mailing list
>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Faith-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/timothyclarkmusic%40me.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 02:45:48 -0400
> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: icctalk at yahoogroups.com, for the discussion of faith and religion
> Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>, Joshua Lester
> <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] i'm holding bible readings via my twitter and my
> facebook
> Message-ID: <D26780EA-0ABE-44AC-81FA-BF86749BE88F at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> just FYI in case you guys are interested. i'm holding bible readings via
> twitter and facebook.
> please realize that it isn't a study. it can turn into a conversation and
> become a study of sortes.
> i guess you could call it a study though as we're all reading from the
> word of the lord so it's a study type thing.
> twitter is @timothyclark13
> the entire chapter is on my twitter.
> i'm going to be posting them there and they're go over to my facebook page
> at http://www.facebook.com/timothyclark13
> anyway, just putting this out there.
> if there's other places where you would like to see this let me know and
> we might be able to arrange it.
> anyway, until next time.
> god bless
> Timothy
> Your friend in the music industry
> bandcamp
> http://www.timothyclark13.bandcamp.com
> twitter
> @timothyclark13
> Skype
> djtimothy1
> facebooks
> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclark13
> http://www.facebook.com/timothyclarkmusic
> reverbnation
> http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
> youtube
> http://www.youtube.com/timothyclarkoffical
> phone
> 7244011224
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 09:41:31 -0600
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Daily Thought for Thursday, May 9, 2013
> Message-ID: <518D152B.8050508 at bresnan.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> that's a great article as well as the series. Thank you very much.
> On 5/9/2013 3:37 PM, Paul wrote:
>> Well folks, we're well into, as the old song says, "the merry merry month
>> of May." I hope that your day is going well or went well, depending on
>> what time of day it is when you read this.
>>
>> We conclude our series on the topic of encouragement with an article
>> written by Dr. Bill Patterson which originally appeared in the December
>> 11, 2011 issue of The Lookout magazine. The title of his article is
>> "Sons and Daughters of Encouragement" and is rendered as follows:
>>
>> In my 20's I decided I didn't want to be a grumpy old man when I reached
>> my senior years. I wanted to be a person of encouragement, a person not
>> wrapped up in self but in God and others. Then it hit me: grumpy old
>> men usually get their start as grumpy young men. I needed to work at
>> being a God-yielded, encouraging young man because what I did that day
>> and the next would set the pattern for my later years. I didn't want to
>> end up like King Saul, full of bitterness, envy and despair. I wanted to
>> end up like Barnabas, a man who gave of his time, energy and resources to
>> build up others.
>>
>> A Biblical Encourager
>> LeRoy Eims served as a campus minister at the University of Pittsburgh.
>> During his first year on the job a number of students came to know the
>> Lord. Eims often checked on their Bible study, Scripture memory, and
>> Christian growth. Some began to avoid him and gave him the name, "Old
>> Mr. Check-up."
>>
>> Eims wrote, "I soon learned it was hard to help a person grow in Christ
>> if he was avoiding me, so I changed and became known as "Mr.
>> Encouragement." The more I encouraged, the more things changed. The new
>> converts grew and we had great fellowship."
>>
>> Can you think of times when an encouraging word or act helped shape your
>> life? Someone loved you, spoke kindly to you, gave you a chance or put an
>> arm around your shoulder and it changed you. Their encouragement became
>> the cure for your grief, your discouragement or your loneliness. You can
>> be that encourager for others in need.
>>
>> Barnabas was a Levite from Cyprus (Acts 4:36). His name means, "Son of
>> Encouragement." The apostles gave him a name that matched his character,
>> and it stuck.
>>
>> Ways To Encourage Others
>> We can learn a great deal about encouragement from Barnabas. He
>> encouraged others through his giving. The first time Luke mentions
>> Barnabas in the book of Acts, he records how Barnabas sold a field and
>> gave the money to the church in Jerusalem for the needs of others (Acts
>> 4:37). Later Barnabas accompanied Paul to Jerusalem with the Antioch
>> Christians' offering for the poor. Do you know some Christians or
>> churches in need? Can you encourage them by giving?
>>
>> Greater than giving his money, Barnabas gave of himself. The name
>> Barnabas (_uios _parakleseos) literally means, "son called alongside."
>> Whenever there was a need, the early church could count on Barnabas to be
>> there. We see it when he welcomed Saul, the Christian persecutor, after
>> his Damascus Road experience. Other Christians were skeptical of Saul's
>> conversion, but Barnabas wrapped an arm around his shoulder, took him to
>> the apostles, and vouched for him (9:26-28).
>>
>> Do you know a new Christian you can encourage by sticking up for him or
>> her? Could you sit with someone in church and introduce him to other
>> members?
>>
>> Have you ever opened your car door, sat in the driver's seat, inserted
>> the key, but heard nothing? The battery had died and no cranking sound
>> emerged. You needed a person with a live battery and jumper cables to
>> give your car a boost. When we encourage others, we become their battery
>> charger.
>>
>> Learning by Example
>> Barnabas encouraged others by recognizing their potential. The church in
>> Jerusalem sent Barnabas as a missionary to Antioch. The work was so
>> successful that he needed help. Barnabas made the 80-mile journey to
>> Tarsus to persuade Saul (by then known as Paul) to join him.
>>
>> That kicked the apostle Paul's ministry into high gear. Later he and
>> Paul went on a missionary journey from Antioch. Barnabas led the group
>> at first and took his nephew John Mark along. Although John Mark quit
>> during his first missionary journey, Barnabas didn't give up on John Mark
>> and carried him along on another mission trip. By then John Mark was "up
>> and running" for the Lord.
>>
>> Some people seem especially gifted of seeing something of promise in
>> others. All of this can practice this, however. If you teach a Sunday
>> school class, is there another promising teacher you can use as an
>> assistant or a substitute? Can you teach others to witness by taking them
>> with you when you share the gospel? Can you take someone under your wing
>> and help her achieve her potential in the Lord? Why not pause right now
>> to ask the Lord to show you someone for whom you can be a Barnabas.
>>
>> More Lessons From Barnabas
>> Barnabas also encouraged others by giving his time. Often people need
>> our presence more than they need our money. Barnabas went to Antioch
>> when there was a great need. He preached the gospel there and led many
>> to Christ. When the church at Antioch prayed, they felt led to set aside
>> Barnabas and Paul for mission work.
>>
>> Barnabas continued to give his time and energy. He stretched beyond his
>> cultural background to reach out to others for Christ. Is there a person
>> of another geographical or cultural background to whom you can witness,
>> or with whom you can spend time and encourage in the faith?
>>
>> Barnabas planted churches in Jerusalem, Antioch, and all over Asia Minor.
>> His name is synnomymous with encouraging others for Christ. Perhaps the
>> greatest way we can encourage others is to plant churches, witness, and
>> nurture others in the Lord.
>>
>> If you felt God leading you to plant a church, would you? If you felt Him
>> lead you to go on a mission journey or to give three years of your life
>> to help a new group of believers, would you?
>>
>> Barnabas never regretted giving his time, his presence, his witness, his
>> money, or his encouragement. You and I will be glad we gave our time and
>> resources to encourage others, too.
>>
>> A Ministry of Encouragement
>> When God begins a work, He usually starts with a human instrument. Could
>> you begin a ministry of encouragement in your church? Choose a group of
>> like-minded people and begin to meet with them. Seek God's help as you
>> consider how you can become sons and daughters of encouragement.
>>
>> What about writing a letter or sending a card to those who visit your
>> worship services? Studies show that within the first three months of
>> moving into a new area, a family will be much more open to an invitation
>> to worship. Develop a group of people who have a "new member"
>> consciousness to reach out to new people with a welcome basket of goodies
>> and an invitation to church.
>>
>> How many families move to a new area, attend church a time or two, then
>> drop out because no one took the time to help them bridge the friendship
>> gap? People aren't looking for a friendly church. They are looking for a
>> friend in church. You can be a son or daughter of encouragement to them
>> through a phone call, a friendly visit, a word of welcome, a listening
>> ear, or a smile. You might offer to meet with them to discuss how to do
>> the things necessary for life in a new neighborhood (water, trash
>> collection, schools, groceries, governmental services, and so on). You
>> may be used of the Lord to raise up a person who becomes like Paul for
>> our day.
>>
>> A couple I know sat in a different area of the sanctuary each week. They
>> chose their seat by standing in the back to observe the congregation. If
>> a visiting family sat in one area, they would sit nearby and invite them
>> to lunch after the services. With that kind of unexpected encouragement,
>> many guests became active members.
>>
>> If we have money in our pockets, we can encourage those in need of food
>> or clothing. If we have any love in our hearts, we can fortify those in
>> need of acceptance. If we have time on our hands, we can strengthen
>> those in need of Christian growth. In a thousand ways we can inspire,
>> cheer, comfort, and give help and hope. Like Barnabas, we can be sons
>> and daughters of encouragement.
>>
>> More Encouragement From God's Word
>> "For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so
>> that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement
>> they provide we might have hope. May the God who gives endurance and
>> encouragement give you the same attitude of mind toward each other that
>> Christ Jesus had" (Romans 15:4, 5).
>>
>> "Therefore encourage one another with these words" (1 Thessalonians
>> 4:18).
>>
>> "Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact
>> you are doing" (1 Thessalonians 5:11).
>>
>> "Preach the Word; be prepared in season and out of season; correct,
>> rebuke and encourage--with great patience and careful instruction" (2
>> Timothy 4:2).
>>
>> "Similarly, encourage the young men to be self-controlled" (Titus 2:6).
>>
>> "Encourage and rebuke with all authority" (Titus 2:15).
>>
>> "But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called Today, so that
>> none of you may be hardened by sin's deceitfulness" (Hebrews 3:13).
>>
>> "God did this so that ... we who have fled to take hold of the hope set
>> before us may be greatly encouraged" (Hebrews 6:18).
>>
>> "Let us consider how we may spur another on toward love and good deeds,
>> not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but
>> encourage one another--and all the more as you see the Day approaching"
>> (Hebrews 10:24, 25). BP
>>
>> And there you have Bob's article which, I hope and pray, was of spiritual
>> benefit to you as the Lord led you to read and ponder what was written.
>>
>> aI'd like to close this message with a brief testimony of encouragement.
>> When the Lord led me to join my new church, Rosemont Community Church, it
>> was the third Sunday in August and their Communion Sunday. Even though I
>> was a new member, they allowed me to partake of the elements. The
>> pastor's wife, Lisa Cook, sat in the same pew with me and gave me
>> pointers about the order of service as well as a personal welcome. After
>> the service was over one of the deacons, John by name, invited me to
>> lunch at an Italian style cafe and, what was more, he picked up the tab.
>> The pastor would have joined us, but he was detained by more pressing and
>> necessary ministerial duties. It was there that I met two wonderful
>> single Christians, Beverly and Pam, and, although Pam lived a distance
>> from my neighbborhood, we greet each other every Sunday, whereas Beverly
>> and I go out to lunch every Thursday at a local eatery.
>>
>> But, beyond all this and uppermost in my mind, Pastor Cook's messages
>> each Lord's Day are right on target, for which I am eternally thankful to
>> God and to him. I only mention all this because, if some of you may
>> recall, you were praying that I'd find a good church, and your prayers
>> produced fruit.
>>
>> And now until tomorrow when, Lord willing another Daily Thought article
>> will be presented, may the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob just keep us
>> safe, individually and collectively, throughout this night or day and
>> especially in these last days in which we live. Your Christian friend
>> and brother, Paul
>> _______________________________________________
>> Faith-talk mailing list
>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Faith-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/sleigland%40bresnan.net
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 08:42:29 -0700
> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
> To: for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Needing prayer.
> Message-ID: <AE90807B-C369-4CD4-9FC2-C66E0B4634EC at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> hello all, i am needing a lot of prayer.
> i lost one of my teachers from cancer.
> she was my middle school teacher for speech.
> and i'm having a tuff time dealing with it.
> i cryed, all last night,
> and i feel completely lost.
> i feel like i can't do anything.
> at the moment.
> i feel like this is a bad dream.
> and i just want to feel better.
> i don't get it i can't stand, it.
>
>
> i know, that she is better. and i be leave in god, but i don't know if i
> will be ever to be the same.
> i've all ready, lost my friend don from guide dog school, a few months
> ago.
> now. my teacher.
> what next.
> i can't move on with my life.
>
> i'm doing my best, but i feel hopeless.
> at this time.
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 10:09:35 -0600
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Needing prayer.
> Message-ID: <518D1BBF.6090603 at bresnan.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> you will be in my prayers. Loss is difficult to accept.God loves you
> and will be your comfort and strength.
> On 5/10/2013 9:42 AM, rhonda cruz wrote:
>> hello all, i am needing a lot of prayer.
>> i lost one of my teachers from cancer.
>> she was my middle school teacher for speech.
>> and i'm having a tuff time dealing with it.
>> i cryed, all last night,
>> and i feel completely lost.
>> i feel like i can't do anything.
>> at the moment.
>> i feel like this is a bad dream.
>> and i just want to feel better.
>> i don't get it i can't stand, it.
>>
>>
>> i know, that she is better. and i be leave in god, but i don't know if
>> i will be ever to be the same.
>> i've all ready, lost my friend don from guide dog school, a few months
>> ago.
>> now. my teacher.
>> what next.
>> i can't move on with my life.
>>
>> i'm doing my best, but i feel hopeless.
>> at this time.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Faith-talk mailing list
>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> Faith-talk:
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/faith-talk_nfbnet.org/sleigland%40bresnan.net
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Faith-talk mailing list
> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Faith-talk Digest, Vol 70, Issue 10
> ******************************************
More information about the Faith-Talk
mailing list