[Faith-talk] Trinity and baptismRe: Faith-talk Digest, Vol 75, Issue 26

Kishia kishia.mason at gmail.com
Fri Nov 1 19:56:49 UTC 2013


Matthew 28 verse 19:  "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing 
them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost"
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>   1. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>   2. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>      (Timothy Clark Music)
>   3. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>   4. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>      (Timothy Clark Music)
>   5. Daily Thought for Saturday, October 26, 2013 (Paul)
>   6. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>   7. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>   8. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>      (trising at sbcglobal.net)
>   9. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>  10. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>      (Timothy Clark Music)
>  11. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>  12. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>      (Timothy Clark Music)
>  13. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>  14. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>      (Timothy Clark Music)
>  15. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Andrew)
>  16. Re: bible (Andrew)
>  17. dramatized bibl (Andrew)
>  18. Re: bible (Devin Prater)
>  19. Re: dramatized bibl (Doris and Chris)
>  20. Re: bible (Doris and Chris)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:56:52 -0800
> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> Old Hank, he was a big part of my younger years in the faith. He is a
> soldier for truth. Though I don't always agree with his aproach, he has 
> made
> alot of contrabutions to making material available to people trapped in
> cults and false religeon.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark H" <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
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> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 3:56 AM
> Subject: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>
>
>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please
>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>> Hope this helps!
>> Diane
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 15:01:10 -0400
> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> urggh, focus on the family.
>  good grief.
> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
> i like
> http://www.voe.org
> and
>
> http://www.jhm.org
> http://triumphtoday.org
> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--  
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of 
>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site 
>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please 
>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>> Hope this helps!
>> Diane
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:51:14 -0800
> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>
>
> urggh, focus on the family.
>  good grief.
> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
> i like
> http://www.voe.org
> and
>
> http://www.jhm.org
> http://triumphtoday.org
> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please
>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>> Hope this helps!
>> Diane
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:02:31 -0400
> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey. 
> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they 
> teach about truth.
> it?s trinitairian.
> it?s secular teachings.
> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their 
> teachings like a spundge.
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to 
>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching 
>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" 
>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> urggh, focus on the family.
>> good grief.
>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>> i like
>> http://www.voe.org
>> and
>>
>> http://www.jhm.org
>> http://triumphtoday.org
>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--  
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of 
>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site 
>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please 
>>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:19:36 -0400
> From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
> To: <angelsongs at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Daily Thought for Saturday, October 26, 2013
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> Well folks, it's Saturday afternoon as I write this here in eastern North 
> America, in fact, the last Saturday of the month.  By this time next week 
> most of us in the U.S. and Canada will have to turn our clocks and watches 
> back one hour.  Where did the year go, I wonder? Well, it went, so let's 
> look forward to the rest of the year with optimism, realizing that, 
> despite the situation in our respective nations and world, that God has 
> everything under control, even if it doesn't seem that way.
>
> Remember several days ago when I presented an article about Michael and 
> how he met Rosie? Well, if you were inspired by that article, hopefully 
> you will be with this article.  It's rather long; in fact it will go over 
> to another page.  However I hope and pray that it will be a blessing to 
> you.  The article in question was written by Gabrielle Ford of Fenton, 
> Michigan and is entitled "My True Companion," rendered as follows:
>
> No one knew what I was going through.  Then came Izzy.
>
> "Izzy? Where are you, girl?" I called out from my bedroom, expecting to 
> see my black-and-tan coonhound come running to my side.  But she didn't. 
> That's strange, I thought.  She was usually the first to greet me when I 
> woke up in the morning.  I slid off the side of the bed and got on my 
> hands and knees, crawling out of my room to try and find her.
>
> Finally, I spotted her in the hallway, lying on the floor.  "Izzy?" She 
> didn't budge.  Her head was down, her long, floppy ears draped on the 
> ground.  Her breathing was shallow.  Her brown eyes were open but didn't 
> blink.  "Mom!" I yelled.  "Come quick!"
>
> My mother came racing down the stairs.  "Are you all right, Gabe? What's 
> wrong?" She rushed to my side.
>
> "It's not me.  It's Izzy." Lord, please, please let her be okay.  She's my 
> best friend.  My only friend.
>
> Friends were hard to come by for someone with my disability.  At age 12, I 
> was diagnosed with Friedreich's ataxia, a progressive disease of the 
> central nervous system that slowly slurred my speech and robbed me of my 
> mobility.  I was able to hide it at first, but by the time I entered high 
> school, the disease had gotten worse.  My classmates noticed my stumbling 
> and altered speech.
>
> "What's wrong with you? Are you drunk?" they snapped when I bumped into 
> someone or something.  Being bullied became a daily event.  Mom encouraged 
> me to talk about my disease.  "If the other kids knew," she said, "they 
> may not be so mean."
>
> "You don't understand," I told her.  They'd just swoop down on me like I 
> was some wounded prey.  If I couldn't hide my disease, I figured, I'd just 
> hide, period.  For the past two years, since graduation, I'd rarely left 
> the house.  I couldn't walk far without a wheelchair now, and I didn't 
> want those bullies to see me in one.  I begged my mom and stepdad for a 
> dog.  I was lonely.  I had my parents and two sisters, but I needed a 
> friend.
>
> Mom agreed to let me have a dog, but with conditions.  I had to pay for it 
> and take care of it myself.  "Even taking it to the vet?" I asked.  Mom 
> just nodded.
>
> I researched breeds online.  "Coonhounds are known for their beauty, 
> strength, and courage," I read on one website.  Beauty, strength, and 
> courage.  Everything I wished people could see in me.
>
> Mom worried about how a dog would react to my condition, but the first 
> time we met, it didn't phase Izzy in the least.  On our way home from 
> picking her up, she began whimpering, so I lifted her up and laid her in 
> my lap, stroking her floppy, velvety ears until she drifted to sleep. 
> Every morning I'd lie on the floor with her, ruffle the hair behind her 
> ears; she'd roll over and I'd rub her belly.  I told my furry little girl 
> everything, like girlfriends do.  She listened intently, focusing on me 
> with those deep brown eyes.  I even sang lullabies to her at night.  Mom 
> made sure I fed her twice a day and took her for her walks.  It was scary 
> leaving the house, but I did it for her.
>
> Izzy returned the attention.  Soon after I adopted her, my mom had company 
> over.  Izzy wouldn't let me just sit alone in my room.  "Izzy, stay," I 
> commanded, wanting to shut my door and hide.  But she kept darting in and 
> out of my bedroom, yipping at me to follow her and meet the guests. 
> Courage, I thought.  Wasn't that what a coonhound was known for? I took a 
> deep breath.  "Okay, okay," I said.  "Just this once.
>
> My mom's friends gushed over Izzy.  For the first time in a while, I 
> didn't feel like I was being examined or judged.  Izzy was the difference.
>
> Then there were the days when I'd be feeling down and Izzy would just seem 
> to know.  She'd walk up to me, rest her head in my lap and cuddle.  My 
> best friend? More like an angel, sent to help me after all that I'd been 
> through.
>
> Now something was wrong with her.  Mom's eyes locked on the dog, looking 
> lifeless on the hall floor.  "I'll call the vet," she said, worry in her 
> voice.
>
> The vet.  All the way across town.  A place with strangers who'd gawk at 
> the girl who couldn't walk on her own.  You need to do this for Izzy, I 
> thought.  Carefully, my stepdad bundled up Izzy, Mom helped me into the 
> car, and we drove to the veterinarian.
>
> "She's swallowed a rock," Dr. Sandy said.  "She'll need surgery, but she 
> should be fine."  I relaxed a little.  Izzy was going to be all right. 
> But after the surgery, Dr. Sandy looked concerned.  "She's not coming out 
> of the anesthesia like she should.  I would like to run some tests."
>
> We brought Izzy home the next day, but the vet was still mystified.  For 
> days Izzy wouldn't stay still.  She paced restlessly in circles.  I tried 
> to calm her, but she just shuddered.  I stared into Izzy's weary eyes, 
> hoping I could see something the vet couldn't.  Why is this happening? I 
> asked God.  Why to my only friend?
>
> The test results came back.  Izzy needed major surgery to fix a liver 
> problem.  The cost? At least two thousand dollars.  My heart sank.  I 
> didn't have that kind of money.
>
> My uncle suggested a fund-raiser.  He knew a man who could help get the 
> word out, a reporter for a local paper.  I didn't think an article could 
> make any difference.  Nobody cared about me in high school, so why should 
> they care now?
>
> I was in my room a few weeks later when Mom came upstairs and knocked on 
> the door.  "There's a man here to see you," she said.  "He's a teacher 
> from the middle school."
>
> "Who?" I asked listlessly.  What could he possibly want?
>
> Mom walked into my room.  In one of her hands was a can wrapped in pink 
> construction paper and in the other, a small white poster.  I sat up 
> slowly.  "What's this?" I asked.
>
> "See for yourself."
>
> The outside of the can read, "For Gabe and Izzy." On the poster, in 
> different colored markers, more than a dozen students had written 
> messages.  "We're all praying for you," one said.  "I hope Izzy gets 
> better soon," said another.  One student had made a colorful drawing of a 
> nurse giving Izzy a shot.  I opened up the can.  It was filled with money.
>
> "I... I... don't know what to say."
>
> "Don't say anything to me," Mom said.  "Say it to the teacher.  It was his 
> class that collected for you and Izzy."
>
> Holding onto Mom, I shuffled down the hall.  "It's an honor to meet you," 
> he said as I came into the dining room.  "My students read the article 
> about Izzy and wanted to help."
>
> "I don't know how to thank you," I said softly.
>
> He said he'd be thrilled if I could come down to the school with Izzy and 
> meet the class.
>
> But going back to school? In a wheelchair? Facing all those people? Even 
> if they had collected for Izzy and me, how could I go there? Kids could be 
> so cruel.  What if they laughed at me? Then I looked at Izzy.  She looked 
> up at me.  So many times she had seemed to know my thoughts.  Now I knew 
> what she was thinking.  Be strong, I thought.  I decided to do it.
>
> I nearly canceled the day before.  I was so nervous, my whole body shook. 
> My mom helped me out of the car and into my wheelchair.  We entered 
> through the side door of the school.  The locker-lined hallways reminded 
> me of the ones I stumbled into not so long ago.  Reluctantly, I entered 
> the classroom.  My mouth went dry.  How would I begin? Then Izzy broke the 
> silence with a bark.  The kids started asking questions.
>
> "How is Izzy?" "Do they know what's wrong with her yet?" "Will she be 
> okay?" And they all wanted to pet her.  I expected Izzy to shy away. 
> After all, she had been so out of sorts lately.  But she wagged her tail 
> like crazy as the kids came up to meet her.  I breathed a sigh of relief. 
> This hadn't been so horrible after all.
>
> Izzy improved after the surgery, but she still seemed weak at times, 
> unsteady on her feet.  She often stumbled into things.  Dr. Sandy's 
> associate did a muscle and nerve biopsy and sent it to a leading 
> veterinary neurologist in San Diego.  With Izzy, I didn't care who saw me 
> or what people thought of me.  I was finally out of hiding.
>
> So many times, doctors told me Izzy wouldn't be the same, that she 
> wouldn't live much longer than a year.  She surprised at every turn.  Even 
> when she needed a little wagon to get around, she'd still wag her tail and 
> gladly greet anyone.  I thought about what I'd read about Izzy before I 
> even adopted her.  Beauty, strength, courage.  She was showing all of that 
> now, even with whatever illness was hurting her.
>
> Finally, the neurologist in San Diego made the diagnosis.  "It's a rare 
> progressive muscle disease," she said.  "Sort of like Friedreich's 
> ataxia."
>
> I looked at Izzy with a newfound admiration.  No wonder she had seemed to 
> know so much about what I was going through.  If she could keep being 
> herself despite her disease, then maybe I could too.
>
> Since that first school visit, I've told people all around the country 
> about Friedreich's ataxia and, most important, about the effects of 
> bullying.  I owe it to Izzy.  She didn't just become my friend, she gave 
> me the courage to reach out and find more friends.  Only God knew that was 
> what I really needed all along.
>
> FAMILY ROOM
>
> Through Izzy, her beloved coonhound, who has a similar disorder, Gabrielle 
> Ford found strength in dealing with Friedreich's ataxia, a rare 
> neuromuscular disease.  Growing up, Gabe was bullied, something that has 
> called her to action.  Today Gabe visits schools around the country giving 
> talks about the effects of bullying, with Izzy by her side.  "Izzy brought 
> me out of hiding and helped me to heal.  The students love her!" she says. 
> "Whenever I've finished a talk, students apologize to the kids they've 
> hurt.  I tell them they can choose to make or break someone's day."
>
> Another source of strength in Gabe's life is her mother, Rhonda, who was 
> recently diagnosed with breast cancer.  "The roles have reversed now," 
> says Gabe.  "I've become a rock for my mom, like she's always been for 
> me." Gabe, who once dreamed of becoming a professional ballerina, just 
> released her autobiography (in 2009), "Still Dancing.  Stop by 
> http://www.gabeandizzy.com where you can order her book, T-shirts and much 
> more.
>
> And there you have one of the most inspiring stories I've read in quite a 
> while.  Wonder if an article about her was featured in "Guideposts" 
> magazine? Again, I hope you enjoyed reading her piece.
>
> And now may the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob just keep you safe, 
> individually and collectively, in these last days in which we live.  Your 
> Christian friend and brother, Paul
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:26:42 -0800
> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you
> know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father
> restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy
> Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to 
> Adam
> and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the woman 
> who
> will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ?
> ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father Father, why have you
> forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except through me.? ?I do 
> nothing
> without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>
>
> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey.
> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they
> teach about truth.
> it?s trinitairian.
> it?s secular teachings.
> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their
> teachings like a spundge.
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> urggh, focus on the family.
>> good grief.
>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>> i like
>> http://www.voe.org
>> and
>>
>> http://www.jhm.org
>> http://triumphtoday.org
>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please
>>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:28:38 -0800
> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> Oh yeh, the translaters of most all of our modern bibles believed in the
> trenity, along with the thousands of marters who gave their lives to
> proclaim the Gospel not to mintion almost all of the founding fathers of
> this country.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>
>
> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey.
> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they
> teach about truth.
> it?s trinitairian.
> it?s secular teachings.
> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their
> teachings like a spundge.
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> urggh, focus on the family.
>> good grief.
>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>> i like
>> http://www.voe.org
>> and
>>
>> http://www.jhm.org
>> http://triumphtoday.org
>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please
>>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:29:19 -0400
> From: <trising at sbcglobal.net>
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> Yes, I believe in the Trinity. For God so loved the world that He gave His 
> one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
> perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the world 
> to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
> John 3 16 and 17.
>
> Terri Wilcox
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:40:08 -0800
> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> Amen, a sender, and a willing participent. Jesus brings a redeemed 
> humanity
> back to the father and the father gives the redeemed humanity as a gift 
> back
> to the son, a humanity who will be as righteous as Christ, like Christ, 
> and
> Glorify Christ, a perfect love story to me. God the son saves the world 
> and
> in giving his life, gains Holy brothers and sisters made perfect through 
> his
> death and reserection. ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <trising at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>
>
>> Yes, I believe in the Trinity. For God so loved the world that He gave 
>> His
>> one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
>> perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the world
>> to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
>> John 3 16 and 17.
>>
>> Terri Wilcox
>>
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:52:02 -0400
> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> show me 1  accation where someone in the bible was baptized in the father 
> son and wholly spirit..
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you 
>> know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father 
>> restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy 
>> Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to 
>> Adam and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the 
>> woman who will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord 
>> Jesus Christ? ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father 
>> Father, why have you forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except 
>> through me.? ?I do nothing without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" 
>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey. 
>> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as 
>> they teach about truth.
>> it?s trinitairian.
>> it?s secular teachings.
>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their 
>> teachings like a spundge.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to 
>>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching 
>>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" 
>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>> good grief.
>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>> i like
>>> http://www.voe.org
>>> and
>>>
>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--  
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of 
>>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site 
>>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great 
>>>> please to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>> Diane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:58:40 -0800
> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> I don't really need to brother Tim, I just need to obey the words of the
> Master. Why mince words?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>
>
> show me 1  accation where someone in the bible was baptized in the father
> son and wholly spirit..
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you
>> know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father
>> restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy
>> Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to
>> Adam and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the
>> woman who will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord
>> Jesus Christ? ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father 
>> Father,
>> why have you forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except through 
>> me.?
>> ?I do nothing without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey.
>> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as 
>> they
>> teach about truth.
>> it?s trinitairian.
>> it?s secular teachings.
>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their
>> teachings like a spundge.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
>>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
>>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>> good grief.
>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>> i like
>>> http://www.voe.org
>>> and
>>>
>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great 
>>>> please
>>>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>> Diane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:08:17 -0400
> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> here we go again.
> john 1:14
>  - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his 
> glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and 
> truth.
> realize, the word was made flesh. the word is god.
> next verse.
> john 10:30
>  - I and [my] Father are one.
> realize, he couldn?t make a claimb that isn?t true.
> Isaiah 9:6
>  - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government 
> shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, 
> Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
> the child born is jesus, realize here that the inthalable word of god says 
> mighty god.
>
> john 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
> in john 8:58 it says  - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto 
> you, Before Abraham was, I am.
> now how does this work?
> god came into flesh. he had to follow the law so, he had to come into this 
> world as a child as that?s the law of god. you can?t come into this world 
> already as a man but you can as a child.
> this is what happened here.
> god came into this world and wasn?t born into sin as he was born of a 
> vergin.
>
> in hebrews 1:8 we read  - But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, 
> [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy 
> kingdom.
> realize here, he calls the son god.
> for we know in matthew that all the power was given on to the son. the 
> father, jesus, the son, jesus, the wholey ghost, jesus. Titus 2:13 
>  says,  - Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the 
> great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
> matthew 1:23 tells us,  - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall 
> bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being 
> interpreted is, God with us. in Colossians 2:9   we read,  - For in him 
> dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
> there?s only 1 god, there?s only 1 throne, and the lord jesus christ will 
> be coming back some day. that, you can count on.
> Isaiah 7:14    - Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, 
> a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
> Isaiah 43:11
>  - I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.
>  Isaiah 42:8
>  - I [am] the LORD: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to 
> another, neither my praise to graven images.
> 1 timothy 3:16 makes this perfictly clear when it states,  - And without 
> controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the 
> flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the 
> Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
> hope this helps.
> Timothy
> sent from my iMac
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Amen, a sender, and a willing participent. Jesus brings a redeemed 
>> humanity back to the father and the father gives the redeemed humanity as 
>> a gift back to the son, a humanity who will be as righteous as Christ, 
>> like Christ, and Glorify Christ, a perfect love story to me. God the son 
>> saves the world and in giving his life, gains Holy brothers and sisters 
>> made perfect through his death and reserection. ----- Original 
>> Message ----- From: <trising at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>>> Yes, I believe in the Trinity. For God so loved the world that He gave 
>>> His one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
>>> perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the 
>>> world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
>>> John 3 16 and 17.
>>>
>>> Terri Wilcox
>>>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:19:53 -0800
> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> I don't disagree with these verses, Amen to all of them, unfortunatly they
> are only one side of the coin and the otherside of the verses that make a
> destingwishing difference between the father and the son are obvious and
> very numerous, but I don't really think you have any questions about that
> side of the coin, so I will let the issue be, I take no offence to your
> position, I hope I didn't give any.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>
>
> here we go again.
> john 1:14
>  - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
> glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and
> truth.
> realize, the word was made flesh. the word is god.
> next verse.
> john 10:30
>  - I and [my] Father are one.
> realize, he couldn?t make a claimb that isn?t true.
> Isaiah 9:6
>  - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government
> shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful,
> Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
> the child born is jesus, realize here that the inthalable word of god says
> mighty god.
>
> john 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
> in john 8:58 it says  - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto
> you, Before Abraham was, I am.
> now how does this work?
> god came into flesh. he had to follow the law so, he had to come into this
> world as a child as that?s the law of god. you can?t come into this world
> already as a man but you can as a child.
> this is what happened here.
> god came into this world and wasn?t born into sin as he was born of a
> vergin.
>
> in hebrews 1:8 we read  - But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God,
> [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy
> kingdom.
> realize here, he calls the son god.
> for we know in matthew that all the power was given on to the son. the
> father, jesus, the son, jesus, the wholey ghost, jesus. Titus 2:13
> says,  - Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the
> great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
> matthew 1:23 tells us,  - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall
> bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being
> interpreted is, God with us. in Colossians 2:9   we read,  - For in him
> dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
> there?s only 1 god, there?s only 1 throne, and the lord jesus christ will
> be coming back some day. that, you can count on.
> Isaiah 7:14    - Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold,
> a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
> Isaiah 43:11
>  - I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.
>  Isaiah 42:8
>  - I [am] the LORD: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to
> another, neither my praise to graven images.
> 1 timothy 3:16 makes this perfictly clear when it states,  - And without
> controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the
> flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the 
> Gentiles,
> believed on in the world, received up into glory.
> hope this helps.
> Timothy
> sent from my iMac
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Amen, a sender, and a willing participent. Jesus brings a redeemed
>> humanity back to the father and the father gives the redeemed humanity as
>> a gift back to the son, a humanity who will be as righteous as Christ,
>> like Christ, and Glorify Christ, a perfect love story to me. God the son
>> saves the world and in giving his life, gains Holy brothers and sisters
>> made perfect through his death and reserection. ----- Original
>> Message ----- From: <trising at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>>> Yes, I believe in the Trinity. For God so loved the world that He gave
>>> His one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
>>> perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the 
>>> world
>>> to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
>>> John 3 16 and 17.
>>>
>>> Terri Wilcox
>>>
>>>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:21:34 -0400
> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> correct, obey god?s word.
> You cannot find one person in the scriptures that was Baptized in the name 
> of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Not one! However, you 
> can find thousands of disciples being baptized in the name of the Lord 
> Jesus Christ. I do mean thousands! You can also find this information in 
> more than one place. We are buried with Him by Baptism into death. ROMANS 
> 6:4
> acts 2:38
> Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the 
> name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins , and ye shall receive the 
> gift of the Holy Ghost.
>
> acts 10:48
> And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed 
> they him to tarry certain days.
> acts 19:5
> When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
> I PETER 3:21
> The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the 
> putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good 
> conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
>
> If you have been baptized as an infant, without repentance, you have not 
> been baptized according to the teaching of the scriptures. Religion has 
> defiled the clear word of God and has become a false teaching.The 
> Scriptures are always true. The Apostles understood the importance of the 
> water baptism and were taught by our Lord Jesus. Thousands of born again 
> believers where baptized in Jesus? name. This is what the scriptures prove 
> over and over again. I would rather obey YHWH?s word than any man?s 
> tradition. Please read all of the scriptures carefully and realize that y 
> ou cannot take care of spiritual problems with natural means.
> john 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no 
> man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
> we baptize in the name of jesus because he is the only way. 1 Corinthians 
> 12:13
>  - For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] 
> Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to 
> drink into one Spirit.
>
> another good verse is romans 6:3 that tells us,  - Know ye not, that so 
> many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his 
> death?
> Titus 3:5
>  - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his 
> mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the 
> Holy Ghost;
> Ephesians 4:5    is  vary clear,  - One Lord, one faith, one baptism.
> so, i hope this helps.
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't really need to brother Tim, I just need to obey the words of the 
>> Master. Why mince words?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" 
>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> show me 1  accation where someone in the bible was baptized in the father 
>> son and wholly spirit..
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you 
>>> know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father 
>>> restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy 
>>> Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to 
>>> Adam and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the 
>>> woman who will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord 
>>> Jesus Christ? ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father 
>>> Father, why have you forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except 
>>> through me.? ?I do nothing without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" 
>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey. 
>>> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as 
>>> they teach about truth.
>>> it?s trinitairian.
>>> it?s secular teachings.
>>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their 
>>> teachings like a spundge.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources 
>>>> to raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian 
>>>> teaching mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" 
>>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>>> good grief.
>>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>>> i like
>>>> http://www.voe.org
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--  
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of 
>>>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site 
>>>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great 
>>>>> please to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>> Diane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:35:01 -0400
> From: Andrew <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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> I know nothing about mistiks or anything but when I do think about
> mistism I think of  some of what people try to teach on healing   and
> speaking tungs.    sorry fokes I have to say this but the the speaking
> in tungs of today is not the real tungs that is spoken of in the
> bible.  99 percent of the people who clame to speak in tungs these
> days areare not the true tungs for example. that is what I think of
> when I think of mistic teaching  and the tv evanjelists like benny hin
> I could say are actually are mystical I feel.
>
> On 10/26/13, Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com> wrote:
>> correct, obey god?s word.
>>  You cannot find one person in the scriptures that was Baptized in the 
>> name
>> of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Not one! However, 
>> you
>> can find thousands of disciples being baptized in the name of the Lord 
>> Jesus
>> Christ. I do mean thousands! You can also find this information in more 
>> than
>> one place. We are buried with Him by Baptism into death. ROMANS 6:4
>>  acts 2:38
>>  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in 
>> the
>> name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins , and ye shall receive the
>> gift of the Holy Ghost.
>>
>>  acts 10:48
>>  And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then 
>> prayed
>> they him to tarry certain days.
>>  acts 19:5
>>  When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord 
>> Jesus.
>>
>>  I PETER 3:21
>>  The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the
>> putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good 
>> conscience
>> toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
>>
>>  If you have been baptized as an infant, without repentance, you have not
>> been baptized according to the teaching of the scriptures. Religion has
>> defiled the clear word of God and has become a false teaching.The 
>> Scriptures
>> are always true. The Apostles understood the importance of the water 
>> baptism
>> and were taught by our Lord Jesus. Thousands of born again believers 
>> where
>> baptized in Jesus? name. This is what the scriptures prove over and over
>> again. I would rather obey YHWH?s word than any man?s tradition. Please 
>> read
>> all of the scriptures carefully and realize that y ou cannot take care of
>> spiritual problems with natural means.
>>  john 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: 
>> no
>> man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
>>  we baptize in the name of jesus because he is the only way. 1 
>> Corinthians
>> 12:13
>>   - For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be]
>> Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to
>> drink into one Spirit.
>>
>>  another good verse is romans 6:3 that tells us,  - Know ye not, that so
>> many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his 
>> death?
>>
>>  Titus 3:5
>>   - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to 
>> his
>> mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the 
>> Holy
>> Ghost;
>>  Ephesians 4:5    is  vary clear,  - One Lord, one faith, one baptism.
>>  so, i hope this helps.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't really need to brother Tim, I just need to obey the words of the
>>> Master. Why mince words?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> show me 1  accation where someone in the bible was baptized in the 
>>> father
>>> son and wholly spirit..
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you
>>>> know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father
>>>> restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy
>>>> Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to
>>>> Adam and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the
>>>> woman who will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord
>>>> Jesus Christ? ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father
>>>> Father, why have you forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except
>>>> through me.? ?I do nothing without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey.
>>>> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as
>>>> they teach about truth.
>>>> it?s trinitairian.
>>>> it?s secular teachings.
>>>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke 
>>>> their
>>>> teachings like a spundge.
>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources 
>>>>> to
>>>>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
>>>>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>>>> good grief.
>>>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>>>> i like
>>>>> http://www.voe.org
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>>>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>>>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great
>>>>>> please to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>> Diane
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:09:47 -0400
> From: Andrew <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
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> what is bleaos is it actually a bible what translation does it come in
>
> On 10/26/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> A little; check under free ebooks.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Doris
>> and Chris
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:56 AM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>
>> I downloaded and installed Blio for windows. Is There any free Christian
>> content available though?
>>
>> Thanks bunches and God bless,
>>
>> Doris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 12:39 AM 10/26/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>>>I have mine on the computer, but there is also an iPhone app as well.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>Snow White Dove
>>>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:01 PM
>>>To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>>
>>>  Do you download it loaded on the computer or do you download on iPhone?
>>>Jenny
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:56 AM, "justin williams"
>>><justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Blio is from knfb reader.  It is a piece of software that you
>>> > download for free, but most of the books you have to pay for.  It
>>> > allows you to read a lot of the e books and other books that you
>>> > would never be able to get either because bard does not have it, or it
>> is not accessible.
>>> > Okay, I'll admit, it's just one of the best toys I have; I read all
>>> > kinds of things now.  It's great.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> > Snow White Dove
>>> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:06 AM
>>> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> > Cc: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>> >
>>> > What is BLIO?
>>> >
>>> > Jenny
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> >> On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:36 PM, "justin williams"
>>> > <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> There is a bunch of Christian stuff on blio; real good stuff I'll 
>>> >> bet.
>>> > I'veIgot to start reading it.
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> >> Of Linda Mentink
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:03 PM
>>> >> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Justin,
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't use Blio, but I prefer the KJV.
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't have a clue what a Christian mystic is, or a nonChristian
>>> >> one, for that matter.
>>> >>
>>> >> Blessings,
>>> >>
>>> >> Linda
>>> >>
>>> >> At 07:34 PM 10/24/2013, you wrote:
>>> >>> Hay folks; I've got the blio?  What is the best version for me to
>>> >>> buy the bible.  I'm in college, and don't have a lot of mony.  I
>>> >>> would like it on my computer because it is easier to access, and I
>>> >>> have an I phone, but I will get it on that later.
>>> >>>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:16:34 -0400
> From: Andrew <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
> To: Faith-talk <Faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] dramatized bibl
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> Hi all had a question I been interested in getting a dramatized bible.
>    but anyway where can I get a dramatized bible for free and what
> translations can it be gotten in
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:28:06 -0500
> From: Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>, faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
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> I must say, the Optasia bible library is extremely useful, I used
> the KJV to read aloud during a youth meeting, and use the
> original language material to study the original Hebrew and
> Greek; I hope to be able to make some sense out of it one day,
> lol.
>
>
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>
> Message: 19
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 22:34:50 -0400
> From: Doris and Chris <chipmunks at gmx.net>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] dramatized bibl
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> You can get a free dramatized Bibles for free from
>
> www.faithcomesbyhearing.com
>
> They offer
>
> English Standard Version (ESV)
>
> King James Version  (KJV)
>
> New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
>
> Contemporary English Version  (This is an "easy english" version with
> a 5th grade reading level)
>
> hth
>
> Doris
>
>
>
>
> At 09:16 PM 10/26/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hi all had a question I been interested in getting a dramatized bible.
>>     but anyway where can I get a dramatized bible for free and what
>>translations can it be gotten in
>>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 22:26:56 -0400
> From: Doris and Chris <chipmunks at gmx.net>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
> Message-ID: <0MVJze-1VBNul3EMA-00YhsV at mail.gmx.com>
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> This is not Bible but book reading software that is accessible. There
> are some Bible translations available that can be bought for it.
>
> hth
>
> Doris
>
>
>
>
> At 09:09 PM 10/26/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>>what is bleaos is it actually a bible what translation does it come in
>>
>>On 10/26/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > A little; check under free ebooks.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> > Doris
>> > and Chris
>> > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:56 AM
>> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>> >
>> > I downloaded and installed Blio for windows. Is There any free 
>> > Christian
>> > content available though?
>> >
>> > Thanks bunches and God bless,
>> >
>> > Doris
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 12:39 AM 10/26/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>I have mine on the computer, but there is also an iPhone app as well.
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >>Snow White Dove
>> >>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:01 PM
>> >>To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> >>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>> >>
>> >>  Do you download it loaded on the computer or do you download on 
>> >> iPhone?
>> >>Jenny
>> >>
>> >>Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >> > On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:56 AM, "justin williams"
>> >><justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Blio is from knfb reader.  It is a piece of software that you
>> >> > download for free, but most of the books you have to pay for.  It
>> >> > allows you to read a lot of the e books and other books that you
>> >> > would never be able to get either because bard does not have it, or 
>> >> > it
>> > is not accessible.
>> >> > Okay, I'll admit, it's just one of the best toys I have; I read all
>> >> > kinds of things now.  It's great.
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> > Snow White Dove
>> >> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:06 AM
>> >> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> >> > Cc: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>> >> >
>> >> > What is BLIO?
>> >> >
>> >> > Jenny
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:36 PM, "justin williams"
>> >> > <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is a bunch of Christian stuff on blio; real good stuff I'll 
>> >> >> bet.
>> >> > I'veIgot to start reading it.
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> >> >> Of Linda Mentink
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:03 PM
>> >> >> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Justin,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't use Blio, but I prefer the KJV.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't have a clue what a Christian mystic is, or a nonChristian
>> >> >> one, for that matter.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Blessings,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Linda
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At 07:34 PM 10/24/2013, you wrote:
>> >> >>> Hay folks; I've got the blio?  What is the best version for me to
>> >> >>> buy the bible.  I'm in college, and don't have a lot of mony.  I
>> >> >>> would like it on my computer because it is easier to access, and I
>> >> >>> have an I phone, but I will get it on that later.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >> >>> Faith-talk mailing list
>> >> >>> Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >> >>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/faith-talk_nfbnet.org
>> >> >>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>> >> >>> for
>> >> >>> Faith-talk:
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>> >> >>> fr
>> >> >>> o
>> >> >>> nt
>> >> >>> iernet.net
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>> >> >>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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