[Faith-talk] Trinity and baptismRe: Faith-talk Digest, Vol 75, Issue 26
Timothy Clark Music
timothyclarkmusic at me.com
Fri Nov 1 20:53:22 UTC 2013
those are titles.
let’s look at the name in acts 2:38.
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
that’s the NAME, not title.
if i sign a check i don’t sign it son brother unkle. those are titles. instead i sign it Timothy Clark. that’s my name. not a title but a name.
On Heshvan 28, 5774 AM, at 15:56, Kishia <kishia.mason at gmail.com> wrote:
> Matthew 28 verse 19: "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost"
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>> 1. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>> 2. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> (Timothy Clark Music)
>> 3. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>> 4. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> (Timothy Clark Music)
>> 5. Daily Thought for Saturday, October 26, 2013 (Paul)
>> 6. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>> 7. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>> 8. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> (trising at sbcglobal.net)
>> 9. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>> 10. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> (Timothy Clark Music)
>> 11. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>> 12. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> (Timothy Clark Music)
>> 13. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Poppa Bear)
>> 14. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> (Timothy Clark Music)
>> 15. Re: To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism (Andrew)
>> 16. Re: bible (Andrew)
>> 17. dramatized bibl (Andrew)
>> 18. Re: bible (Devin Prater)
>> 19. Re: dramatized bibl (Doris and Chris)
>> 20. Re: bible (Doris and Chris)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 06:56:52 -0800
>> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Message-ID: <D44D16E1697C41D8A2577602C99FC4CA at homepc>
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>> Old Hank, he was a big part of my younger years in the faith. He is a
>> soldier for truth. Though I don't always agree with his aproach, he has made
>> alot of contrabutions to making material available to people trapped in
>> cults and false religeon.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark H" <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 3:56 AM
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please
>>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 15:01:10 -0400
>> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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>> urggh, focus on the family.
>> good grief.
>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>> i like
>> http://www.voe.org
>> and
>>
>> http://www.jhm.org
>> http://triumphtoday.org
>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 11:51:14 -0800
>> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> urggh, focus on the family.
>> good grief.
>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>> i like
>> http://www.voe.org
>> and
>>
>> http://www.jhm.org
>> http://triumphtoday.org
>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please
>>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>> Hope this helps!
>>> Diane
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:02:31 -0400
>> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey. secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they teach about truth.
>> it?s trinitairian.
>> it?s secular teachings.
>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their teachings like a spundge.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>> good grief.
>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>> i like
>>> http://www.voe.org
>>> and
>>>
>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>> Diane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:19:36 -0400
>> From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
>> To: <angelsongs at yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Daily Thought for Saturday, October 26, 2013
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>> Well folks, it's Saturday afternoon as I write this here in eastern North America, in fact, the last Saturday of the month. By this time next week most of us in the U.S. and Canada will have to turn our clocks and watches back one hour. Where did the year go, I wonder? Well, it went, so let's look forward to the rest of the year with optimism, realizing that, despite the situation in our respective nations and world, that God has everything under control, even if it doesn't seem that way.
>>
>> Remember several days ago when I presented an article about Michael and how he met Rosie? Well, if you were inspired by that article, hopefully you will be with this article. It's rather long; in fact it will go over to another page. However I hope and pray that it will be a blessing to you. The article in question was written by Gabrielle Ford of Fenton, Michigan and is entitled "My True Companion," rendered as follows:
>>
>> No one knew what I was going through. Then came Izzy.
>>
>> "Izzy? Where are you, girl?" I called out from my bedroom, expecting to see my black-and-tan coonhound come running to my side. But she didn't. That's strange, I thought. She was usually the first to greet me when I woke up in the morning. I slid off the side of the bed and got on my hands and knees, crawling out of my room to try and find her.
>>
>> Finally, I spotted her in the hallway, lying on the floor. "Izzy?" She didn't budge. Her head was down, her long, floppy ears draped on the ground. Her breathing was shallow. Her brown eyes were open but didn't blink. "Mom!" I yelled. "Come quick!"
>>
>> My mother came racing down the stairs. "Are you all right, Gabe? What's wrong?" She rushed to my side.
>>
>> "It's not me. It's Izzy." Lord, please, please let her be okay. She's my best friend. My only friend.
>>
>> Friends were hard to come by for someone with my disability. At age 12, I was diagnosed with Friedreich's ataxia, a progressive disease of the central nervous system that slowly slurred my speech and robbed me of my mobility. I was able to hide it at first, but by the time I entered high school, the disease had gotten worse. My classmates noticed my stumbling and altered speech.
>>
>> "What's wrong with you? Are you drunk?" they snapped when I bumped into someone or something. Being bullied became a daily event. Mom encouraged me to talk about my disease. "If the other kids knew," she said, "they may not be so mean."
>>
>> "You don't understand," I told her. They'd just swoop down on me like I was some wounded prey. If I couldn't hide my disease, I figured, I'd just hide, period. For the past two years, since graduation, I'd rarely left the house. I couldn't walk far without a wheelchair now, and I didn't want those bullies to see me in one. I begged my mom and stepdad for a dog. I was lonely. I had my parents and two sisters, but I needed a friend.
>>
>> Mom agreed to let me have a dog, but with conditions. I had to pay for it and take care of it myself. "Even taking it to the vet?" I asked. Mom just nodded.
>>
>> I researched breeds online. "Coonhounds are known for their beauty, strength, and courage," I read on one website. Beauty, strength, and courage. Everything I wished people could see in me.
>>
>> Mom worried about how a dog would react to my condition, but the first time we met, it didn't phase Izzy in the least. On our way home from picking her up, she began whimpering, so I lifted her up and laid her in my lap, stroking her floppy, velvety ears until she drifted to sleep. Every morning I'd lie on the floor with her, ruffle the hair behind her ears; she'd roll over and I'd rub her belly. I told my furry little girl everything, like girlfriends do. She listened intently, focusing on me with those deep brown eyes. I even sang lullabies to her at night. Mom made sure I fed her twice a day and took her for her walks. It was scary leaving the house, but I did it for her.
>>
>> Izzy returned the attention. Soon after I adopted her, my mom had company over. Izzy wouldn't let me just sit alone in my room. "Izzy, stay," I commanded, wanting to shut my door and hide. But she kept darting in and out of my bedroom, yipping at me to follow her and meet the guests. Courage, I thought. Wasn't that what a coonhound was known for? I took a deep breath. "Okay, okay," I said. "Just this once.
>>
>> My mom's friends gushed over Izzy. For the first time in a while, I didn't feel like I was being examined or judged. Izzy was the difference.
>>
>> Then there were the days when I'd be feeling down and Izzy would just seem to know. She'd walk up to me, rest her head in my lap and cuddle. My best friend? More like an angel, sent to help me after all that I'd been through.
>>
>> Now something was wrong with her. Mom's eyes locked on the dog, looking lifeless on the hall floor. "I'll call the vet," she said, worry in her voice.
>>
>> The vet. All the way across town. A place with strangers who'd gawk at the girl who couldn't walk on her own. You need to do this for Izzy, I thought. Carefully, my stepdad bundled up Izzy, Mom helped me into the car, and we drove to the veterinarian.
>>
>> "She's swallowed a rock," Dr. Sandy said. "She'll need surgery, but she should be fine." I relaxed a little. Izzy was going to be all right. But after the surgery, Dr. Sandy looked concerned. "She's not coming out of the anesthesia like she should. I would like to run some tests."
>>
>> We brought Izzy home the next day, but the vet was still mystified. For days Izzy wouldn't stay still. She paced restlessly in circles. I tried to calm her, but she just shuddered. I stared into Izzy's weary eyes, hoping I could see something the vet couldn't. Why is this happening? I asked God. Why to my only friend?
>>
>> The test results came back. Izzy needed major surgery to fix a liver problem. The cost? At least two thousand dollars. My heart sank. I didn't have that kind of money.
>>
>> My uncle suggested a fund-raiser. He knew a man who could help get the word out, a reporter for a local paper. I didn't think an article could make any difference. Nobody cared about me in high school, so why should they care now?
>>
>> I was in my room a few weeks later when Mom came upstairs and knocked on the door. "There's a man here to see you," she said. "He's a teacher from the middle school."
>>
>> "Who?" I asked listlessly. What could he possibly want?
>>
>> Mom walked into my room. In one of her hands was a can wrapped in pink construction paper and in the other, a small white poster. I sat up slowly. "What's this?" I asked.
>>
>> "See for yourself."
>>
>> The outside of the can read, "For Gabe and Izzy." On the poster, in different colored markers, more than a dozen students had written messages. "We're all praying for you," one said. "I hope Izzy gets better soon," said another. One student had made a colorful drawing of a nurse giving Izzy a shot. I opened up the can. It was filled with money.
>>
>> "I... I... don't know what to say."
>>
>> "Don't say anything to me," Mom said. "Say it to the teacher. It was his class that collected for you and Izzy."
>>
>> Holding onto Mom, I shuffled down the hall. "It's an honor to meet you," he said as I came into the dining room. "My students read the article about Izzy and wanted to help."
>>
>> "I don't know how to thank you," I said softly.
>>
>> He said he'd be thrilled if I could come down to the school with Izzy and meet the class.
>>
>> But going back to school? In a wheelchair? Facing all those people? Even if they had collected for Izzy and me, how could I go there? Kids could be so cruel. What if they laughed at me? Then I looked at Izzy. She looked up at me. So many times she had seemed to know my thoughts. Now I knew what she was thinking. Be strong, I thought. I decided to do it.
>>
>> I nearly canceled the day before. I was so nervous, my whole body shook. My mom helped me out of the car and into my wheelchair. We entered through the side door of the school. The locker-lined hallways reminded me of the ones I stumbled into not so long ago. Reluctantly, I entered the classroom. My mouth went dry. How would I begin? Then Izzy broke the silence with a bark. The kids started asking questions.
>>
>> "How is Izzy?" "Do they know what's wrong with her yet?" "Will she be okay?" And they all wanted to pet her. I expected Izzy to shy away. After all, she had been so out of sorts lately. But she wagged her tail like crazy as the kids came up to meet her. I breathed a sigh of relief. This hadn't been so horrible after all.
>>
>> Izzy improved after the surgery, but she still seemed weak at times, unsteady on her feet. She often stumbled into things. Dr. Sandy's associate did a muscle and nerve biopsy and sent it to a leading veterinary neurologist in San Diego. With Izzy, I didn't care who saw me or what people thought of me. I was finally out of hiding.
>>
>> So many times, doctors told me Izzy wouldn't be the same, that she wouldn't live much longer than a year. She surprised at every turn. Even when she needed a little wagon to get around, she'd still wag her tail and gladly greet anyone. I thought about what I'd read about Izzy before I even adopted her. Beauty, strength, courage. She was showing all of that now, even with whatever illness was hurting her.
>>
>> Finally, the neurologist in San Diego made the diagnosis. "It's a rare progressive muscle disease," she said. "Sort of like Friedreich's ataxia."
>>
>> I looked at Izzy with a newfound admiration. No wonder she had seemed to know so much about what I was going through. If she could keep being herself despite her disease, then maybe I could too.
>>
>> Since that first school visit, I've told people all around the country about Friedreich's ataxia and, most important, about the effects of bullying. I owe it to Izzy. She didn't just become my friend, she gave me the courage to reach out and find more friends. Only God knew that was what I really needed all along.
>>
>> FAMILY ROOM
>>
>> Through Izzy, her beloved coonhound, who has a similar disorder, Gabrielle Ford found strength in dealing with Friedreich's ataxia, a rare neuromuscular disease. Growing up, Gabe was bullied, something that has called her to action. Today Gabe visits schools around the country giving talks about the effects of bullying, with Izzy by her side. "Izzy brought me out of hiding and helped me to heal. The students love her!" she says. "Whenever I've finished a talk, students apologize to the kids they've hurt. I tell them they can choose to make or break someone's day."
>>
>> Another source of strength in Gabe's life is her mother, Rhonda, who was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. "The roles have reversed now," says Gabe. "I've become a rock for my mom, like she's always been for me." Gabe, who once dreamed of becoming a professional ballerina, just released her autobiography (in 2009), "Still Dancing. Stop by http://www.gabeandizzy.com where you can order her book, T-shirts and much more.
>>
>> And there you have one of the most inspiring stories I've read in quite a while. Wonder if an article about her was featured in "Guideposts" magazine? Again, I hope you enjoyed reading her piece.
>>
>> And now may the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob just keep you safe, individually and collectively, in these last days in which we live. Your Christian friend and brother, Paul
>>
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>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:26:42 -0800
>> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Message-ID: <8493D7EDF3114132B5408AFD5BD3FE37 at homepc>
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>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you
>> know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father
>> restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy
>> Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to Adam
>> and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the woman who
>> will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ?
>> ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father Father, why have you
>> forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except through me.? ?I do nothing
>> without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey.
>> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they
>> teach about truth.
>> it?s trinitairian.
>> it?s secular teachings.
>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their
>> teachings like a spundge.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
>>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
>>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>> good grief.
>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>> i like
>>> http://www.voe.org
>>> and
>>>
>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please
>>>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>> Diane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:28:38 -0800
>> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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>> Oh yeh, the translaters of most all of our modern bibles believed in the
>> trenity, along with the thousands of marters who gave their lives to
>> proclaim the Gospel not to mintion almost all of the founding fathers of
>> this country.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey.
>> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they
>> teach about truth.
>> it?s trinitairian.
>> it?s secular teachings.
>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their
>> teachings like a spundge.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
>>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
>>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>> good grief.
>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>> i like
>>> http://www.voe.org
>>> and
>>>
>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please
>>>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>> Diane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:29:19 -0400
>> From: <trising at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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>> Yes, I believe in the Trinity. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
>> perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
>> John 3 16 and 17.
>>
>> Terri Wilcox
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:40:08 -0800
>> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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>>
>> Amen, a sender, and a willing participent. Jesus brings a redeemed humanity
>> back to the father and the father gives the redeemed humanity as a gift back
>> to the son, a humanity who will be as righteous as Christ, like Christ, and
>> Glorify Christ, a perfect love story to me. God the son saves the world and
>> in giving his life, gains Holy brothers and sisters made perfect through his
>> death and reserection. ----- Original Message ----- From: <trising at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>>> Yes, I believe in the Trinity. For God so loved the world that He gave His
>>> one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
>>> perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the world
>>> to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
>>> John 3 16 and 17.
>>>
>>> Terri Wilcox
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 10
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:52:02 -0400
>> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Message-ID: <1A5A9A53-EACD-49FD-9E7F-0697B6661D5D at me.com>
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>>
>> show me 1 accation where someone in the bible was baptized in the father son and wholly spirit..
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to Adam and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the woman who will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ? ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father Father, why have you forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except through me.? ?I do nothing without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey. secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they teach about truth.
>>> it?s trinitairian.
>>> it?s secular teachings.
>>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their teachings like a spundge.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>>> good grief.
>>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>>> i like
>>>> http://www.voe.org
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>> Diane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:58:40 -0800
>> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Message-ID: <B830C13094474AD39E4DBA291C87A7AF at homepc>
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>>
>> I don't really need to brother Tim, I just need to obey the words of the
>> Master. Why mince words?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:52 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> show me 1 accation where someone in the bible was baptized in the father
>> son and wholly spirit..
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you
>>> know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father
>>> restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy
>>> Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to
>>> Adam and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the
>>> woman who will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord
>>> Jesus Christ? ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father Father,
>>> why have you forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except through me.?
>>> ?I do nothing without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey.
>>> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they
>>> teach about truth.
>>> it?s trinitairian.
>>> it?s secular teachings.
>>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their
>>> teachings like a spundge.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
>>>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
>>>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>>> good grief.
>>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>>> i like
>>>> http://www.voe.org
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please
>>>>> to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>> Diane
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>> Message: 12
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:08:17 -0400
>> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Message-ID: <E98D46EC-03A9-4FCA-ABE1-B589AC488EFD at me.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>>
>> here we go again.
>> john 1:14
>> - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
>> realize, the word was made flesh. the word is god.
>> next verse.
>> john 10:30
>> - I and [my] Father are one.
>> realize, he couldn?t make a claimb that isn?t true.
>> Isaiah 9:6
>> - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
>> the child born is jesus, realize here that the inthalable word of god says mighty god.
>>
>> john 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
>> in john 8:58 it says - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
>> now how does this work?
>> god came into flesh. he had to follow the law so, he had to come into this world as a child as that?s the law of god. you can?t come into this world already as a man but you can as a child.
>> this is what happened here.
>> god came into this world and wasn?t born into sin as he was born of a vergin.
>>
>> in hebrews 1:8 we read - But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy kingdom.
>> realize here, he calls the son god.
>> for we know in matthew that all the power was given on to the son. the father, jesus, the son, jesus, the wholey ghost, jesus. Titus 2:13 says, - Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
>> matthew 1:23 tells us, - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. in Colossians 2:9 we read, - For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>> there?s only 1 god, there?s only 1 throne, and the lord jesus christ will be coming back some day. that, you can count on.
>> Isaiah 7:14 - Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
>> Isaiah 43:11
>> - I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.
>> Isaiah 42:8
>> - I [am] the LORD: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
>> 1 timothy 3:16 makes this perfictly clear when it states, - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
>> hope this helps.
>> Timothy
>> sent from my iMac
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Amen, a sender, and a willing participent. Jesus brings a redeemed humanity back to the father and the father gives the redeemed humanity as a gift back to the son, a humanity who will be as righteous as Christ, like Christ, and Glorify Christ, a perfect love story to me. God the son saves the world and in giving his life, gains Holy brothers and sisters made perfect through his death and reserection. ----- Original Message ----- From: <trising at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, I believe in the Trinity. For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
>>>> perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
>>>> John 3 16 and 17.
>>>>
>>>> Terri Wilcox
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Message: 13
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:19:53 -0800
>> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Message-ID: <37A0431853124E76BEC1BC1539122BE0 at homepc>
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>>
>> I don't disagree with these verses, Amen to all of them, unfortunatly they
>> are only one side of the coin and the otherside of the verses that make a
>> destingwishing difference between the father and the son are obvious and
>> very numerous, but I don't really think you have any questions about that
>> side of the coin, so I will let the issue be, I take no offence to your
>> position, I hope I didn't give any.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 1:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>
>>
>> here we go again.
>> john 1:14
>> - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his
>> glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and
>> truth.
>> realize, the word was made flesh. the word is god.
>> next verse.
>> john 10:30
>> - I and [my] Father are one.
>> realize, he couldn?t make a claimb that isn?t true.
>> Isaiah 9:6
>> - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government
>> shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful,
>> Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
>> the child born is jesus, realize here that the inthalable word of god says
>> mighty god.
>>
>> john 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
>> in john 8:58 it says - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto
>> you, Before Abraham was, I am.
>> now how does this work?
>> god came into flesh. he had to follow the law so, he had to come into this
>> world as a child as that?s the law of god. you can?t come into this world
>> already as a man but you can as a child.
>> this is what happened here.
>> god came into this world and wasn?t born into sin as he was born of a
>> vergin.
>>
>> in hebrews 1:8 we read - But unto the Son [he saith], Thy throne, O God,
>> [is] for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness [is] the sceptre of thy
>> kingdom.
>> realize here, he calls the son god.
>> for we know in matthew that all the power was given on to the son. the
>> father, jesus, the son, jesus, the wholey ghost, jesus. Titus 2:13
>> says, - Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the
>> great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
>> matthew 1:23 tells us, - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall
>> bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being
>> interpreted is, God with us. in Colossians 2:9 we read, - For in him
>> dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
>> there?s only 1 god, there?s only 1 throne, and the lord jesus christ will
>> be coming back some day. that, you can count on.
>> Isaiah 7:14 - Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold,
>> a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
>> Isaiah 43:11
>> - I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.
>> Isaiah 42:8
>> - I [am] the LORD: that [is] my name: and my glory will I not give to
>> another, neither my praise to graven images.
>> 1 timothy 3:16 makes this perfictly clear when it states, - And without
>> controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the
>> flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles,
>> believed on in the world, received up into glory.
>> hope this helps.
>> Timothy
>> sent from my iMac
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Amen, a sender, and a willing participent. Jesus brings a redeemed
>>> humanity back to the father and the father gives the redeemed humanity as
>>> a gift back to the son, a humanity who will be as righteous as Christ,
>>> like Christ, and Glorify Christ, a perfect love story to me. God the son
>>> saves the world and in giving his life, gains Holy brothers and sisters
>>> made perfect through his death and reserection. ----- Original
>>> Message ----- From: <trising at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>>> Yes, I believe in the Trinity. For God so loved the world that He gave
>>>> His one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not
>>>> perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his son into the world
>>>> to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
>>>> John 3 16 and 17.
>>>>
>>>> Terri Wilcox
>>>>
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>> Message: 14
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:21:34 -0400
>> From: Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Joshua Lester <JLester8462 at pccua.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
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>> correct, obey god?s word.
>> You cannot find one person in the scriptures that was Baptized in the name of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Not one! However, you can find thousands of disciples being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. I do mean thousands! You can also find this information in more than one place. We are buried with Him by Baptism into death. ROMANS 6:4
>> acts 2:38
>> Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins , and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
>>
>> acts 10:48
>> And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
>> acts 19:5
>> When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
>> I PETER 3:21
>> The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
>>
>> If you have been baptized as an infant, without repentance, you have not been baptized according to the teaching of the scriptures. Religion has defiled the clear word of God and has become a false teaching.The Scriptures are always true. The Apostles understood the importance of the water baptism and were taught by our Lord Jesus. Thousands of born again believers where baptized in Jesus? name. This is what the scriptures prove over and over again. I would rather obey YHWH?s word than any man?s tradition. Please read all of the scriptures carefully and realize that y ou cannot take care of spiritual problems with natural means.
>> john 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
>> we baptize in the name of jesus because he is the only way. 1 Corinthians 12:13
>> - For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be] Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
>>
>> another good verse is romans 6:3 that tells us, - Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
>> Titus 3:5
>> - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
>> Ephesians 4:5 is vary clear, - One Lord, one faith, one baptism.
>> so, i hope this helps.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't really need to brother Tim, I just need to obey the words of the Master. Why mince words?
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:52 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>
>>>
>>> show me 1 accation where someone in the bible was baptized in the father son and wholly spirit..
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to Adam and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the woman who will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ? ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father Father, why have you forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except through me.? ?I do nothing without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey. secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they teach about truth.
>>>> it?s trinitairian.
>>>> it?s secular teachings.
>>>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their teachings like a spundge.
>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>>>> good grief.
>>>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>>>> i like
>>>>> http://www.voe.org
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>> Diane
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> Message: 15
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:35:01 -0400
>> From: Andrew <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> I know nothing about mistiks or anything but when I do think about
>> mistism I think of some of what people try to teach on healing and
>> speaking tungs. sorry fokes I have to say this but the the speaking
>> in tungs of today is not the real tungs that is spoken of in the
>> bible. 99 percent of the people who clame to speak in tungs these
>> days areare not the true tungs for example. that is what I think of
>> when I think of mistic teaching and the tv evanjelists like benny hin
>> I could say are actually are mystical I feel.
>>
>> On 10/26/13, Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com> wrote:
>>> correct, obey god?s word.
>>> You cannot find one person in the scriptures that was Baptized in the name
>>> of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Not one! However, you
>>> can find thousands of disciples being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus
>>> Christ. I do mean thousands! You can also find this information in more than
>>> one place. We are buried with Him by Baptism into death. ROMANS 6:4
>>> acts 2:38
>>> Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the
>>> name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins , and ye shall receive the
>>> gift of the Holy Ghost.
>>>
>>> acts 10:48
>>> And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed
>>> they him to tarry certain days.
>>> acts 19:5
>>> When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
>>>
>>> I PETER 3:21
>>> The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the
>>> putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience
>>> toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
>>>
>>> If you have been baptized as an infant, without repentance, you have not
>>> been baptized according to the teaching of the scriptures. Religion has
>>> defiled the clear word of God and has become a false teaching.The Scriptures
>>> are always true. The Apostles understood the importance of the water baptism
>>> and were taught by our Lord Jesus. Thousands of born again believers where
>>> baptized in Jesus? name. This is what the scriptures prove over and over
>>> again. I would rather obey YHWH?s word than any man?s tradition. Please read
>>> all of the scriptures carefully and realize that y ou cannot take care of
>>> spiritual problems with natural means.
>>> john 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
>>> man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
>>> we baptize in the name of jesus because he is the only way. 1 Corinthians
>>> 12:13
>>> - For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be]
>>> Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to
>>> drink into one Spirit.
>>>
>>> another good verse is romans 6:3 that tells us, - Know ye not, that so
>>> many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
>>>
>>> Titus 3:5
>>> - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his
>>> mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy
>>> Ghost;
>>> Ephesians 4:5 is vary clear, - One Lord, one faith, one baptism.
>>> so, i hope this helps.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't really need to brother Tim, I just need to obey the words of the
>>>> Master. Why mince words?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:52 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> show me 1 accation where someone in the bible was baptized in the father
>>>> son and wholly spirit..
>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you
>>>>> know, ?Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost.? ?Father
>>>>> restore me to the glory I had before the world began?, ?I send the Holy
>>>>> Spirit to be with you.? God?s spirit was above the water, God spoke to
>>>>> Adam and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the
>>>>> woman who will bruze the head of the serpent. ?The Father of our Lord
>>>>> Jesus Christ? ?This is my son whom I am well pleased with? ?Father
>>>>> Father, why have you forsaken me?? ?No one comes to the Father except
>>>>> through me.? ?I do nothing without my father? ?Our father in heaven.?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey.
>>>>> secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as
>>>>> they teach about truth.
>>>>> it?s trinitairian.
>>>>> it?s secular teachings.
>>>>> there advice isn?t bad but you just have to be careful. don?t soke their
>>>>> teachings like a spundge.
>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
>>>>>> raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
>>>>>> mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
>>>>>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>>>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:01 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>>>>> good grief.
>>>>>> it?s a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>>>>> i like
>>>>>> http://www.voe.org
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>>>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>>>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--
>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
>>>>>>> orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site
>>>>>>> www.equip.org. James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great
>>>>>>> please to find information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>>> Diane
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>> Message: 16
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:09:47 -0400
>> From: Andrew <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>> Message-ID:
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>> what is bleaos is it actually a bible what translation does it come in
>>
>> On 10/26/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> A little; check under free ebooks.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doris
>>> and Chris
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:56 AM
>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>>
>>> I downloaded and installed Blio for windows. Is There any free Christian
>>> content available though?
>>>
>>> Thanks bunches and God bless,
>>>
>>> Doris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 12:39 AM 10/26/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>>>> I have mine on the computer, but there is also an iPhone app as well.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Snow White Dove
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:01 PM
>>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>>>
>>>> Do you download it loaded on the computer or do you download on iPhone?
>>>> Jenny
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:56 AM, "justin williams"
>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Blio is from knfb reader. It is a piece of software that you
>>>> > download for free, but most of the books you have to pay for. It
>>>> > allows you to read a lot of the e books and other books that you
>>>> > would never be able to get either because bard does not have it, or it
>>> is not accessible.
>>>> > Okay, I'll admit, it's just one of the best toys I have; I read all
>>>> > kinds of things now. It's great.
>>>> >
>>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> > Snow White Dove
>>>> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:06 AM
>>>> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>> > Cc: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>>> >
>>>> > What is BLIO?
>>>> >
>>>> > Jenny
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:36 PM, "justin williams"
>>>> > <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> There is a bunch of Christian stuff on blio; real good stuff I'll >> bet.
>>>> > I'veIgot to start reading it.
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>> >> Of Linda Mentink
>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:03 PM
>>>> >> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi Justin,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I don't use Blio, but I prefer the KJV.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I don't have a clue what a Christian mystic is, or a nonChristian
>>>> >> one, for that matter.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Blessings,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Linda
>>>> >>
>>>> >> At 07:34 PM 10/24/2013, you wrote:
>>>> >>> Hay folks; I've got the blio? What is the best version for me to
>>>> >>> buy the bible. I'm in college, and don't have a lot of mony. I
>>>> >>> would like it on my computer because it is easier to access, and I
>>>> >>> have an I phone, but I will get it on that later.
>>>> >>>
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>> Message: 17
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 21:16:34 -0400
>> From: Andrew <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
>> To: Faith-talk <Faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] dramatized bibl
>> Message-ID:
>> <CAM342zb5UKp=nQ7ZV+aFkk84C0Z7WbUQqjX5xu=m2RE+Ye45Nw at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>
>> Hi all had a question I been interested in getting a dramatized bible.
>> but anyway where can I get a dramatized bible for free and what
>> translations can it be gotten in
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 18
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:28:06 -0500
>> From: Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>, faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>> Message-ID: <526c6c2c.c622ec0a.5d7b.ffff85f6 at mx.google.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> I must say, the Optasia bible library is extremely useful, I used
>> the KJV to read aloud during a youth meeting, and use the
>> original language material to study the original Hebrew and
>> Greek; I hope to be able to make some sense out of it one day,
>> lol.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 19
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 22:34:50 -0400
>> From: Doris and Chris <chipmunks at gmx.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] dramatized bibl
>> Message-ID: <0MHal6-1VWxLG1Dn2-003NEL at mail.gmx.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>> You can get a free dramatized Bibles for free from
>>
>> www.faithcomesbyhearing.com
>>
>> They offer
>>
>> English Standard Version (ESV)
>>
>> King James Version (KJV)
>>
>> New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)
>>
>> Contemporary English Version (This is an "easy english" version with
>> a 5th grade reading level)
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Doris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 09:16 PM 10/26/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>>> Hi all had a question I been interested in getting a dramatized bible.
>>> but anyway where can I get a dramatized bible for free and what
>>> translations can it be gotten in
>>>
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>> Message: 20
>> Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 22:26:56 -0400
>> From: Doris and Chris <chipmunks at gmx.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>> Message-ID: <0MVJze-1VBNul3EMA-00YhsV at mail.gmx.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>>
>> This is not Bible but book reading software that is accessible. There
>> are some Bible translations available that can be bought for it.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Doris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 09:09 PM 10/26/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>>> what is bleaos is it actually a bible what translation does it come in
>>>
>>> On 10/26/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > A little; check under free ebooks.
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of > Doris
>>> > and Chris
>>> > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:56 AM
>>> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>> >
>>> > I downloaded and installed Blio for windows. Is There any free > Christian
>>> > content available though?
>>> >
>>> > Thanks bunches and God bless,
>>> >
>>> > Doris
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At 12:39 AM 10/26/2013 -0400, you wrote:
>>> >>I have mine on the computer, but there is also an iPhone app as well.
>>> >>
>>> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >>From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> >>Snow White Dove
>>> >>Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:01 PM
>>> >>To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>> >>
>>> >> Do you download it loaded on the computer or do you download on >> iPhone?
>>> >>Jenny
>>> >>
>>> >>Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>
>>> >> > On Oct 25, 2013, at 9:56 AM, "justin williams"
>>> >><justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Blio is from knfb reader. It is a piece of software that you
>>> >> > download for free, but most of the books you have to pay for. It
>>> >> > allows you to read a lot of the e books and other books that you
>>> >> > would never be able to get either because bard does not have it, or >> > it
>>> > is not accessible.
>>> >> > Okay, I'll admit, it's just one of the best toys I have; I read all
>>> >> > kinds of things now. It's great.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> >> > Snow White Dove
>>> >> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 5:06 AM
>>> >> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >> > Cc: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>> >> >
>>> >> > What is BLIO?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Jenny
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> On Oct 24, 2013, at 9:36 PM, "justin williams"
>>> >> > <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> There is a bunch of Christian stuff on blio; real good stuff I'll >> >> bet.
>>> >> > I'veIgot to start reading it.
>>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> >> >> Of Linda Mentink
>>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:03 PM
>>> >> >> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] bible
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Hi Justin,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I don't use Blio, but I prefer the KJV.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I don't have a clue what a Christian mystic is, or a nonChristian
>>> >> >> one, for that matter.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Blessings,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Linda
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> At 07:34 PM 10/24/2013, you wrote:
>>> >> >>> Hay folks; I've got the blio? What is the best version for me to
>>> >> >>> buy the bible. I'm in college, and don't have a lot of mony. I
>>> >> >>> would like it on my computer because it is easier to access, and I
>>> >> >>> have an I phone, but I will get it on that later.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>> >> >>> nt
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>>> >> >>> 10/23/13
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