[Faith-talk] Faith-talk Digest, Vol 76, Issue 23
Kishia
kishia.mason at gmail.com
Sun Nov 24 03:47:27 UTC 2013
Good evening. I learned from a prominent Christian radio show here in the
U.S., Renewing Your Mind, several things about the false religion of Islam.
That fact that Mustafa can come on this list and slander Christians, the
Bible, and the god of the Bible, as well as Jesus Christ the Messiah who is
blessed forever deserves correcting. Mohammed chose the moon god out of the
many pagan Arabian gods to be the god of Islam. I have no evil intent from
posting this message, but I just can't keep silent when my faith is being
attacked like this. Get the facts.
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> 1. Re: Update (Debby Phillips)
> 2. Daily Thought for Thursday, November 21, 2013 (Paul)
> 3. WHO wrote the Bible? And CBN promoting Islamophobia for
> dummies. (Mostafa)
> 4. Re: WHO wrote the Bible? And CBN promoting Islamophobiafor
> dummies. (Poppa Bear)
> 5. Re: WHO wrote the Bible? And CBN promoting Islamophobiafor
> dummies. (Doris and Chris)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 10:40:16 -0800
> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
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> Hi Linda, so sorry it has taken me so long to respond, I am way behind. I
> am so sorry about the loss of your dad. I will be praying for you as you
> sing, I did that for my dad's funeral, and it was one of the most
> difficult things I have ever done. But I know that God will give you the
> strength you need. Blessings, Debby Phillips
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Nov 18, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> The memorial service for Dad will be Saturday, so I'm staying put until
>> Friday. I don't have to rush to get packed now! Smile.
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Linda
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 15:52:37 -0500
> From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
> To: <SereneMountain at yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Daily Thought for Thursday, November 21, 2013
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> Sorry folks, but because of the amount of email messages I have to go
> through, plus the facts that I'm extremely tired and have to go to my
> Lions Club meeting, there will be no daily thought message for today.
> That phrase "Lord willing" at the end of each message is not to be taken
> lightly, and even more so in this case. However, again Lord willing there
> will be a Daily Thought message and the wisdom gems and pearls all ready
> for tomorrow morning. Thanks for your understanding in this matter.
> Yours in Christ, Paul
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:36:33 +0200
> From: "Mostafa" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>
> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] WHO wrote the Bible? And CBN promoting
> Islamophobia for dummies.
> Message-ID: <6DFCFAED20D141EBA4718456C4736837 at Win7PC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256"
>
> Apart from the most rabid fundamentalists among us, nearly everyone admits
> that the Bible contains errors. A faulty creation story here, a historical
> mistake there, a contradiction or two in some other textual poses.
>
>
>
> But is it possible that the problem is worse than that -- that the Bible
> actually contains lies?
>
> Most people wouldn't put it that way, since the Bible is, after all,
> sacred Scripture for millions on our planet. But good Christian scholars
> of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of the
> United States illustrious seminaries will tell you that the Bible is
> full of lies, even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth:
> Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied
> about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle -- Peter, Paul or
> James -- knowing full well they were someone else. In modern parlance,
> that is a lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity
> is a forgery.
>
> Most modern scholars of the Bible are reluctant of using these terms, and
> for understandable reasons, some having to do with their clientele.
> Teaching in Christian seminaries, or to largely Christian undergraduate
> populations, who wants to denigrate the cherished texts of Scripture by
> calling them forgeries built on lies? And so scholars use a different term
> for this phenomenon and call such books "pseudepigrapha."
>
> You will find this antiseptic term throughout the writings of modern
> scholars of the Bible. It's the term used in university classes on the New
> Testament, in seminary courses, and in Ph.D seminars. What the people who
> use the term do not tell you is that it literally means "writing that is
> inscribed with a lie."
>
> And that's what such writings are. Whoever wrote the New Testament book of
> 2 Peter claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere -- except for our
> friends among the fundamentalists -- will tell you that there is no way on
> God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else wrote it
> claiming to be Peter. Scholars may also tell you that it was an acceptable
> practice in the ancient world for someone to write a book in the name of
> someone else. But that is where they are wrong. If you look at what
> ancient people actually said about the practice, you'll see that they
> invariably called it lying and condemned it as a deceitful practice, even
> in Christian circles. 2 Peter was finally accepted into the New Testament
> because the church fathers, centuries later, were convinced that Peter
> wrote it. But he didn't. Someone else did. And that someone else lied
> about his identity.
>
> The same is true of many of the letters allegedly written by Paul. Most
> scholars will tell you that whereas seven of the 13 letters that go under
> Paul's name are his, the other six are not. Their authors merely claimed
> to be Paul. In the ancient world, books like that were labeled as
> condemnable lies.
>
> This may all seem like a bit of antiquarian curiosity, especially for
> people whose lives don't depend on the Bible or even people of faith for
> whom biblical matters are a peripheral interest at best. But in fact, it
> matters sometimes. Whoever wrote the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul.
> But he was lying about that -- he was someone else living after Paul had
> died. In his book, the author of 1 Timothy used Paul's name and authority
> to address a problem that he saw in the church. Women were speaking out,
> exercising authority and teaching men. That had to stop. The author told
> women to be silent and submissive, and reminded his readers about what
> happened the first time a woman was allowed to exercise authority over a
> man, in that little incident in the garden of Eden. No, the author argued,
> if women wanted to be saved, they were to have babies (1 Tim. 2:11-15).
>
> Largely on the basis of this passage, the apostle Paul has been branded,
> by more liberation minded people of recent generations, as one of
> history's great misogynists. The problem, of course, is that Paul never
> said any such thing. And why does it matter? Because the passage is still
> used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women. Why are there
> no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to
> preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today
> that do not allow women even to speak? In no small measure it is because
> Paul allegedly taught that women had to be silent, submissive and
> pregnant. Except that the person who taught this was not Paul, but someone
> lying about his identity so that his readers would think he was Paul.
>
> It may be one of the greatest ironies of the Christian scriptures that
> some of them insist on truth, while telling a lie. For no author is truth
> more important than for the "Paul" of Ephesians. He refers to the gospel
> as "the word of truth" (1:13); he indicates that the "truth is in Jesus";
> he tells his readers to "speak the truth" to their neighbors (4:24-25);
> and he instructs his readers to "fasten the belt of truth around your
> waist" (6:14). And yet he himself lied about who he was. He was not really
> Paul.
>
> It appears that some of the New Testament writers, such as the authors of
> 2 Peter, 1 Timothy and Ephesians, felt they were perfectly justified to
> lie in order to tell the truth. But we today can at least evaluate their
> claims and realize just how human, and fallible, they were. They were
> creatures of their time and place. And so too were their teachings, lies
> and all.
>
>
>
> The average Christian Apologist knows nothing about the various textual
> discrepancies which the Bible consists.
>
>
>
>
>
> They never admit that the Bible consists of textual discrepancies and
> contradictions.
>
>
>
> Instead of admitting that, they resort to knavishly slander and assault
> Islam, because of its threatening entity to them, and, to cover up their
> theological shortage.
>
>
>
> Consequently, it?s odd for them to admit that the Bible consists of
> forgeries.
>
>
>
> To define technically, what is forgery?
>
>
>
> Linguistically, Forgery is the Criminal falsification by making or
> altering an instrument with intent to defraud.
>
>
>
> Biblically, or in the biblical literature context; a forgery is the
> imposed scriptural chronicle that is inscribed with a lie.
>
>
>
> There isn?t a biblical passage that narrates an account which could
> possibly be excepted, even, the parables of Jesus that are recounted
> throughout the gospels.
>
>
>
> According to renowned Biblical scholars, they all are utterly
> susceptible to substantial textual criticism, and they all are filled with
> doubtful factors.
>
>
>
> I suspect that Apologists of CBN would be dare enough to confront this
> enormous crisis.
>
>
>
>
>
> I found them to be the most wickedest missionaries I ever met.
>
>
>
> They just can?t speak the truth.
>
>
>
> CBN wicked Apologists are the one who brought it to themselves.
>
>
>
> I am not going to stay silent whilst wicked Apologists of CBN are
> deliberately assaulting Islam, denigrating and slandering its entity on a
> virtually daily basis.
>
>
>
> If any of the recipients is affiliated with CBN mischievous Apologists, he
> should?ve notified them about my defiant disposition to persistently
> withstand Islam.
>
>
>
> CBN wicked Apologists are eminently convicted with radically
> prejudicial and hateful sentiments, and we are unlikely to tolerate their
> intent inequity, which is politically motivated.
>
>
>
> As I distinctly emphasized many times, it is a mental combat against Islam
> and Muslims.
>
>
>
> This mental combat is going to be the mortal combat for those who waged
> it.
>
>
>
> They forced us to periodically engage on this mentally confrontational
> conflict, and we?re ready to face the challenge.
>
>
>
> I am still going to carry on exposing the terrible evilness of CBN
> affiliates.
>
>
>
> I will present my plausible evidence, which plainly substantiates their
> allege involvement to support and supply Israel militarily. So watch out
> for the post that is yet to come.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:23:35 -0900
> From: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] WHO wrote the Bible? And CBN promoting
> Islamophobiafor dummies.
> Message-ID: <E79BB223E90E459CBA76EC2C992F0268 at homepc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1256";
> reply-type=original
>
> Can't wait brother Mustafa.
> Hope you are doing well in your part of the world and at peace. PS. "For
> God
> so loved the world that He gave His only Son and whoever believes in Him
> will not die, but have everlasting life."
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mostafa" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>
> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:36 PM
> Subject: [Faith-talk] WHO wrote the Bible? And CBN promoting
> Islamophobiafor
> dummies.
>
>
>> Apart from the most rabid fundamentalists among us, nearly everyone
>> admits
>> that the Bible contains errors. A faulty creation story here, a
>> historical
>> mistake there, a contradiction or two in some other textual poses.
>>
>>
>>
>> But is it possible that the problem is worse than that -- that the Bible
>> actually contains lies?
>>
>> Most people wouldn't put it that way, since the Bible is, after all,
>> sacred Scripture for millions on our planet. But good Christian scholars
>> of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of the
>> United States illustrious seminaries will tell you that the Bible is
>> full of lies, even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth:
>> Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied
>> about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle -- Peter, Paul or
>> James -- knowing full well they were someone else. In modern parlance,
>> that is a lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity
>> is a forgery.
>>
>> Most modern scholars of the Bible are reluctant of using these terms, and
>> for understandable reasons, some having to do with their clientele.
>> Teaching in Christian seminaries, or to largely Christian undergraduate
>> populations, who wants to denigrate the cherished texts of Scripture by
>> calling them forgeries built on lies? And so scholars use a different
>> term
>> for this phenomenon and call such books "pseudepigrapha."
>>
>> You will find this antiseptic term throughout the writings of modern
>> scholars of the Bible. It's the term used in university classes on the
>> New
>> Testament, in seminary courses, and in Ph.D seminars. What the people who
>> use the term do not tell you is that it literally means "writing that is
>> inscribed with a lie."
>>
>> And that's what such writings are. Whoever wrote the New Testament book
>> of
>> 2 Peter claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere -- except for our
>> friends among the fundamentalists -- will tell you that there is no way
>> on
>> God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else wrote it
>> claiming to be Peter. Scholars may also tell you that it was an
>> acceptable
>> practice in the ancient world for someone to write a book in the name of
>> someone else. But that is where they are wrong. If you look at what
>> ancient people actually said about the practice, you'll see that they
>> invariably called it lying and condemned it as a deceitful practice, even
>> in Christian circles. 2 Peter was finally accepted into the New Testament
>> because the church fathers, centuries later, were convinced that Peter
>> wrote it. But he didn't. Someone else did. And that someone else lied
>> about his identity.
>>
>> The same is true of many of the letters allegedly written by Paul. Most
>> scholars will tell you that whereas seven of the 13 letters that go under
>> Paul's name are his, the other six are not. Their authors merely claimed
>> to be Paul. In the ancient world, books like that were labeled as
>> condemnable lies.
>>
>> This may all seem like a bit of antiquarian curiosity, especially for
>> people whose lives don't depend on the Bible or even people of faith for
>> whom biblical matters are a peripheral interest at best. But in fact, it
>> matters sometimes. Whoever wrote the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be
>> Paul.
>> But he was lying about that -- he was someone else living after Paul had
>> died. In his book, the author of 1 Timothy used Paul's name and authority
>> to address a problem that he saw in the church. Women were speaking out,
>> exercising authority and teaching men. That had to stop. The author told
>> women to be silent and submissive, and reminded his readers about what
>> happened the first time a woman was allowed to exercise authority over a
>> man, in that little incident in the garden of Eden. No, the author
>> argued,
>> if women wanted to be saved, they were to have babies (1 Tim. 2:11-15).
>>
>> Largely on the basis of this passage, the apostle Paul has been branded,
>> by more liberation minded people of recent generations, as one of
>> history's great misogynists. The problem, of course, is that Paul never
>> said any such thing. And why does it matter? Because the passage is still
>> used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women. Why are there
>> no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to
>> preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today
>> that do not allow women even to speak? In no small measure it is because
>> Paul allegedly taught that women had to be silent, submissive and
>> pregnant. Except that the person who taught this was not Paul, but
>> someone
>> lying about his identity so that his readers would think he was Paul.
>>
>> It may be one of the greatest ironies of the Christian scriptures that
>> some of them insist on truth, while telling a lie. For no author is truth
>> more important than for the "Paul" of Ephesians. He refers to the gospel
>> as "the word of truth" (1:13); he indicates that the "truth is in Jesus";
>> he tells his readers to "speak the truth" to their neighbors (4:24-25);
>> and he instructs his readers to "fasten the belt of truth around your
>> waist" (6:14). And yet he himself lied about who he was. He was not
>> really
>> Paul.
>>
>> It appears that some of the New Testament writers, such as the authors of
>> 2 Peter, 1 Timothy and Ephesians, felt they were perfectly justified to
>> lie in order to tell the truth. But we today can at least evaluate their
>> claims and realize just how human, and fallible, they were. They were
>> creatures of their time and place. And so too were their teachings, lies
>> and all.
>>
>>
>>
>> The average Christian Apologist knows nothing about the various textual
>> discrepancies which the Bible consists.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> They never admit that the Bible consists of textual discrepancies and
>> contradictions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Instead of admitting that, they resort to knavishly slander and assault
>> Islam, because of its threatening entity to them, and, to cover up their
>> theological shortage.
>>
>>
>>
>> Consequently, it?s odd for them to admit that the Bible consists of
>> forgeries.
>>
>>
>>
>> To define technically, what is forgery?
>>
>>
>>
>> Linguistically, Forgery is the Criminal falsification by making or
>> altering an instrument with intent to defraud.
>>
>>
>>
>> Biblically, or in the biblical literature context; a forgery is the
>> imposed scriptural chronicle that is inscribed with a lie.
>>
>>
>>
>> There isn?t a biblical passage that narrates an account which could
>> possibly be excepted, even, the parables of Jesus that are recounted
>> throughout the gospels.
>>
>>
>>
>> According to renowned Biblical scholars, they all are utterly
>> susceptible to substantial textual criticism, and they all are filled
>> with
>> doubtful factors.
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect that Apologists of CBN would be dare enough to confront this
>> enormous crisis.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I found them to be the most wickedest missionaries I ever met.
>>
>>
>>
>> They just can?t speak the truth.
>>
>>
>>
>> CBN wicked Apologists are the one who brought it to themselves.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not going to stay silent whilst wicked Apologists of CBN are
>> deliberately assaulting Islam, denigrating and slandering its entity on a
>> virtually daily basis.
>>
>>
>>
>> If any of the recipients is affiliated with CBN mischievous Apologists,
>> he
>> should?ve notified them about my defiant disposition to persistently
>> withstand Islam.
>>
>>
>>
>> CBN wicked Apologists are eminently convicted with radically
>> prejudicial and hateful sentiments, and we are unlikely to tolerate their
>> intent inequity, which is politically motivated.
>>
>>
>>
>> As I distinctly emphasized many times, it is a mental combat against
>> Islam
>> and Muslims.
>>
>>
>>
>> This mental combat is going to be the mortal combat for those who waged
>> it.
>>
>>
>>
>> They forced us to periodically engage on this mentally confrontational
>> conflict, and we?re ready to face the challenge.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am still going to carry on exposing the terrible evilness of CBN
>> affiliates.
>>
>>
>>
>> I will present my plausible evidence, which plainly substantiates their
>> allege involvement to support and supply Israel militarily. So watch out
>> for the post that is yet to come.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Faith-talk mailing list
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>>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 23:30:47 -0500
> From: Doris and Chris <chipmunks at gmx.net>
> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] WHO wrote the Bible? And CBN promoting
> Islamophobiafor dummies.
> Message-ID: <0LiHc7-1VN7RE43md-00nPEk at mail.gmx.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
> Don't Forget that it was common practice at the time to
> "ghost-write" in a more known or famous person . This is doubtlessly
> why many Christian scholars will assume the same is true for the
> quram. I personally neither claim nor deny direct authorship of
> either Holy Scripture but personally believe that God reveals himself
> to whoever and whenever in whatever way he chooses.
>
> God For anyone inersted, check out the Adventures in Odyssey episode
> that does list "Allah" as one of the names for God as part of the
> Judeo-Christian heritage as well.
>
> God Bless,
>
> Doris
>
>
>
>
>
> At 06:23 PM 11/21/2013 -0900, you wrote:
>>Can't wait brother Mustafa. Hope you are doing well in your part of
>>the world and at peace. PS. "For God so loved the world that He gave
>>His only Son and whoever believes in Him will not die, but have
>>everlasting life." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mostafa"
>><mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Sent:
>>Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:36 PM Subject: [Faith-talk] WHO wrote
>>the Bible? And CBN promoting Islamophobiafor dummies. > Apart from
>>the most rabid fundamentalists among us, nearly everyone admits >
>>that the Bible contains errors. A faulty creation story here, a
>>historical > mistake there, a contradiction or two in some other
>>textual poses. > > > > But is it possible that the problem is worse
>>than that -- that the Bible > actually contains lies? > > Most
>>people wouldn't put it that way, since the Bible is, after all, >
>>sacred Scripture for millions on our planet. But good Christian
>>scholars > of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic
>>scholars of the > United States illustrious seminaries will tell
>>you that the Bible is > full of lies, even if they refuse to use the
>>term. And here is the truth: > Many of the books of the New
>>Testament were written by people who lied > about their identity,
>>claiming to be a famous apostle -- Peter, Paul or > James -- knowing
>>full well they were someone else. In modern parlance, > that is a
>>lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity > is
>>a forgery. > > Most modern scholars of the Bible are reluctant of
>>using these terms, and > for understandable reasons, some having to
>>do with their clientele. > Teaching in Christian seminaries, or to
>>largely Christian undergraduate > populations, who wants to
>>denigrate the cherished texts of Scripture by > calling them
>>forgeries built on lies? And so scholars use a different term > for
>>this phenomenon and call such books "pseudepigrapha." > > You will
>>find this antiseptic term throughout the writings of modern >
>>scholars of the Bible. It's the term used in university classes on
>>the New > Testament, in seminary courses, and in Ph.D seminars. What
>>the people who > use the term do not tell you is that it literally
>>means "writing that is > inscribed with a lie." > > And that's what
>>such writings are. Whoever wrote the New Testament book of > 2 Peter
>>claimed to be Peter. But scholars everywhere -- except for our >
>>friends among the fundamentalists -- will tell you that there is no
>>way on > God's green earth that Peter wrote the book. Someone else
>>wrote it > claiming to be Peter. Scholars may also tell you that it
>>was an acceptable > practice in the ancient world for someone to
>>write a book in the name of > someone else. But that is where they
>>are wrong. If you look at what > ancient people actually said about
>>the practice, you'll see that they > invariably called it lying and
>>condemned it as a deceitful practice, even > in Christian circles. 2
>>Peter was finally accepted into the New Testament > because the
>>church fathers, centuries later, were convinced that Peter > wrote
>>it. But he didn't. Someone else did. And that someone else lied >
>>about his identity. > > The same is true of many of the letters
>>allegedly written by Paul. Most > scholars will tell you that
>>whereas seven of the 13 letters that go under > Paul's name are his,
>>the other six are not. Their authors merely claimed > to be Paul. In
>>the ancient world, books like that were labeled as > condemnable
>>lies. > > This may all seem like a bit of antiquarian curiosity,
>>especially for > people whose lives don't depend on the Bible or
>>even people of faith for > whom biblical matters are a peripheral
>>interest at best. But in fact, it > matters sometimes. Whoever wrote
>>the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul. > But he was lying about
>>that -- he was someone else living after Paul had > died. In his
>>book, the author of 1 Timothy used Paul's name and authority > to
>>address a problem that he saw in the church. Women were speaking
>>out, > exercising authority and teaching men. That had to stop. The
>>author told > women to be silent and submissive, and reminded his
>>readers about what > happened the first time a woman was allowed to
>>exercise authority over a > man, in that little incident in the
>>garden of Eden. No, the author argued, > if women wanted to be
>>saved, they were to have babies (1 Tim. 2:11-15). > > Largely on the
>>basis of this passage, the apostle Paul has been branded, > by more
>>liberation minded people of recent generations, as one of >
>>history's great misogynists. The problem, of course, is that Paul
>>never > said any such thing. And why does it matter? Because the
>>passage is still > used by church leaders today to oppress and
>>silence women. Why are there > no women priests in the Catholic
>>Church? Why are women not allowed to > preach in conservative
>>evangelical churches? Why are there churches today > that do not
>>allow women even to speak? In no small measure it is because > Paul
>>allegedly taught that women had to be silent, submissive and >
>>pregnant. Except that the person who taught this was not Paul, but
>>someone > lying about his identity so that his readers would think
>>he was Paul. > > It may be one of the greatest ironies of the
>>Christian scriptures that > some of them insist on truth, while
>>telling a lie. For no author is truth > more important than for the
>>"Paul" of Ephesians. He refers to the gospel > as "the word of
>>truth" (1:13); he indicates that the "truth is in Jesus"; > he tells
>>his readers to "speak the truth" to their neighbors (4:24-25); > and
>>he instructs his readers to "fasten the belt of truth around your >
>>waist" (6:14). And yet he himself lied about who he was. He was not
>>really > Paul. > > It appears that some of the New Testament
>>writers, such as the authors of > 2 Peter, 1 Timothy and Ephesians,
>>felt they were perfectly justified to > lie in order to tell the
>>truth. But we today can at least evaluate their > claims and realize
>>just how human, and fallible, they were. They were > creatures of
>>their time and place. And so too were their teachings, lies > and
>>all. > > > > The average Christian Apologist knows nothing about the
>>various textual > discrepancies which the Bible
>>consists. > > > > > > They never admit that the Bible consists of
>>textual discrepancies and > contradictions. > > > > Instead of
>>admitting that, they resort to knavishly slander and assault >
>>Islam, because of its threatening entity to them, and, to cover up
>>their > theological shortage. > > > > Consequently, it's odd for
>>them to admit that the Bible consists of > forgeries. > > > > To
>>define technically, what is forgery? > > > > Linguistically, Forgery
>>is the Criminal falsification by making or > altering an instrument
>>with intent to defraud. > > > > Biblically, or in the biblical
>>literature context; a forgery is the > imposed scriptural chronicle
>>that is inscribed with a lie. > > > > There isn't a biblical
>>passage that narrates an account which could > possibly be excepted,
>>even, the parables of Jesus that are recounted > throughout the
>>gospels. > > > > According to renowned Biblical scholars, they all
>>are utterly > susceptible to substantial textual criticism, and they
>>all are filled with > doubtful factors. > > > > I suspect that
>>Apologists of CBN would be dare enough to confront this > enormous
>>crisis. > > > > > > I found them to be the most wickedest
>>missionaries I ever met. > > > > They just can't speak the
>>truth. > > > > CBN wicked Apologists are the one who brought it to
>>themselves. > > > > I am not going to stay silent whilst wicked
>>Apologists of CBN are > deliberately assaulting Islam, denigrating
>>and slandering its entity on a > virtually daily basis. > > > > If
>>any of the recipients is affiliated with CBN mischievous Apologists,
>>he > should've notified them about my defiant disposition to
>>persistently > withstand Islam. > > > > CBN wicked Apologists
>>are eminently convicted with radically > prejudicial and hateful
>>sentiments, and we are unlikely to tolerate their > intent inequity,
>>which is politically motivated. > > > > As I distinctly emphasized
>>many times, it is a mental combat against Islam > and
>>Muslims. > > > > This mental combat is going to be the mortal combat
>>for those who waged > it. > > > > They forced us to periodically
>>engage on this mentally confrontational > conflict, and we're ready
>>to face the challenge. > > > > I am still going to carry on exposing
>>the terrible evilness of CBN > affiliates. > > > > I will present my
>>plausible evidence, which plainly substantiates their > allege
>>involvement to support and supply Israel militarily. So watch out >
>>for the post that is yet to come. >
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