[Faith-talk] {Spam?} Re: How can I be a Christian?.

Timothy Clark Music timothyclarkmusic at me.com
Fri Oct 4 16:55:34 UTC 2013


hello 
 i happen to be a fan of pastor Hagee. 
 Further more, while i understand this list is for discussing faith, i didn't think it was ment to bash one another's faith. 
 big difference there. 
 i have not bashed your faith, no one on this list has either so, let's tone it down a bit. 
 i wrote you off list about some topics you'll find of interest. 
 such as how jesus is the father son and holy spirit all in 1. 
 the trinity is something i personally don't believe in but whatever it is you believe is just that, you're beliefs. 
 let's remember that and be respectful of one another.
Timothy 
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On Oct 4, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Mostafa wrote:

> Upon them be peace, those who follow the pathway of truthfulness.
> On today's post, I will talk about some deplorable attempts to gravely invoke acrimonious suspicions and uncertainty among muslims. These evil attempts are basicly intending to destroy the muslim faith. Some vicious evangelical fabricators are willfully attempting to evoke religious discombobulation among muslims, and that's basicly by posing misrepresentations, which they wickedly manipulate in a fraudulent manner. Well emphatically, they can't on earth frustrate our faith, or cause us to easily retreat. Well, they essentially rely on implicit statements, to easily select the meaning that suits their condemnable aim. Consequently, they charge Islam with false allegations. Such as, Islam promotes terrorism. Islam represses women, etc. They even claim that the Koran teaches that Allah never created anything, they also claim that the Koran was corrupted, grin. They can't pose their concerns undramatically, and they never rely on factual information. They never use explicit assertions, and they target your emotional aspects to basicly deceive you. That how it works for them. Well personally, I was never engaged in a critical debate with those deceptive missionaries, without conveniently recognizing their deeply hidden political agenda, which forcefully imposes its eminent authority on the theological arena. He never presents a text in its actual context. He constantly misrepresents the subject, either by deliberately  misquoting the text, corrupting the meaning, or committing the both crimes simultaneously. I always ask him to justly set the text forth at its original context, but he never does. I walk him gradually to the correction of his wickedly intended disinformation. And, that's when he begins to perceive that his awful deception has perfectly been detected. They all must fathom, that we're not foolish, they repeatedly assault our religion with inflammatory remarks, and we’re unlikely to tolerate that. Well however, Bridges Foundation was made to refute any misconceptions on either individual, or global basis. They are located in Egypt, Europe, and North America. 
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> Their website is:
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> http://www.bridges-foundation.org
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> Feel free to contact them for theological consultancy, or any question you may possibly have. You can even schedule an appointment with Doctor Fadel Solomon. He may come for a presentation at your domestic Church, Masjid , Islamic center, college, or faculty. We're glad to be at your sservice. Our theological panel is based on informative principles. Feel free to take a tour around the website, and you may have a look at the various programs and curriculums they offer.
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> Now, I would like to talk a little bit about Christian Zionism.
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> So, what is Christian Zionism?
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> Christian Zionism is a political movement, which originally descends from a gravely radical element of Protestantism. It involves  some radical coptics as well. But they mostly live abroad, and they are theologically moulded  by the christian zionist notorious influence.  They predominantly believe in the literal interpretation of the Bible. And, they derive a bitter  notion, based on that particular belief. Among the main founders and key directors of this extremist movement, are Pastor John Hagee, the radical evangelical Televangelist Pat Robertson, the fabricating author, Robert Spencer with his awful companion, the liar Pamela Geller, and finally, the heavily prevaricator and eternally expelled ex Coptic Father, zakaria botros. Due to his stubborn profanity and inflammatory remarks, he was permanently banned from the Coptic Church. I personally verified with local coptic officials that he was eternally banished from the Church for his shameful misbehaviors and verbal assaults. Formerly, he used to be an actor at the Church. He currently lives in the United states, and he is in a regular communication with the radical missionaries I just listed above. He is quite popular for his anti-islam views, his affirmative discourtesy, his dishonourable statements,     his intentional misquotes, misinterpretations, and acrimonious corruptions of Islamic text. Well for instance, he wickedly insulted muslim women who wear Hijab. He sarcastically described them them as the darken tents.   He deliberately devises the meaning which helps him to forge, to develop and promote an assaulting propaganda about Islamic teachings.   Well however, his malefactor   equivocations were informatively countered, and substantially refuted by Doctor Fadel Solomon, and many other prominent muslim scholars.  Well ordinarily, such hateful pastors and missionaries are quite known for their enormously provocative disposition about Islam. They strongly adhere a Zionist agenda, and it's their top priority to advocate for guarding Israel national security. They constantly call for that in the Congress, and in another major domestic political assemblies in the United states. Furthermore, they strenuously exert their efforts, to essentially invoke theological suspicions among the muslim masses. I was previously asked by couple of christians to watch Zakaria botros episodes about Islam. One of them is an Arab, and another one is American. They both are among the recipients list disclosed before you. I would like to thank them pretty much for their sincere advice. They just helped me exposing to the publicity who Zakaria botros is. They never searched who is Zakaria Botros , nor they never bothered themselves to just verify whether he was academically certified, to talk about Islam the way he did. They just liked the fact, that he appeared on the television, assaulting Islam, and posing incorrect alegations about Islamic sources.
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> Little that they know about the so called Zakaria botros religious bigotry, his malicious intent, and his ultimate perfidy to his egyptian identity. He calls Egypt a terrorist state, wavering that notion to those radical evangelists who he might be in touch with at the Congress, while attempting to encourage them to potentially label Egypt as a threatening entity, and to even occupy Egypt militarily if that was necessary. He even insulted the coptic Pope in Egypt. Moreover, it's overwhelmingly evidenced against him, that he stands behind the nigrified curtains of innocence of muslims, the detrimental film which sparked outrage and violence around the world. Although, he doesn't directly appear at the front, but it is allegedly leavened that he is actually behind the seen, and that all the reprehensible concepts were actually inspired by his hateful views.       Is that your best role-model sir? Wow. Couldn't you just find any better? I'm personally convinced that Zakaria botros and his assimilators are tremendously inspired by a hidden plot, a deeply concealed Zionist agenda. The coptic church is extremely commendable for formally disposing this maligned hater. I would like his supporters to present their significant evidents, that proves his exoneration if they have any. Furthermore, I would kindly ask my respectful recipients, to just hit over to the following URL:
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> http://www.cufi.org
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> This is the official website of this lobby, which many christian organizations in the United states today, are utterly affiliated with. It’s largely sponsored by Christian organizations and individuals around the country. You may tour their website, and then, you may possibly ask yourself;
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> What on earth a religious association has to do with political interests?
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> Why they would be affiliated with a political lobby, that explicitly fundraises, to supply Israel militarily?
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> I can present conspicuous evidents that substantially proves my proclaimation.
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> Christians United for Israel is the largest Christian lobby in the United states, which essentially advocates for Christian sustainable alignment with the state of Israel. In their last annual summit of 2012, Netanyahu was the keynote speaker for this particular event.
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> Here you go:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqgDKbGUdT0
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> The major essence of this Christian dispensationalism, is of its political apostasy. They label Islam as their common enemy in spades.
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> As a muslim, I believe that there are many corruptions in the Bible, but I also believe, that there are some hints, which indicates, that the Bible, was initially revealed by God.
> So for instance, in Mark 29/31, Jesus was asked about the first commandment, what did he say, according to the Bible, here we go. ”29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
> 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
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> 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these”.
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> Wasn’t Jesus able to say; the first commandment is to believe in my Redemption?
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> I quite comprehend that some of you, have  considered me to be their enemy, and so do I.
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> I quite recognize, that you are playing this critically political game, which essentially relys on this fraudulently perpetrated  propaganda of spreading malign and detest to Islam.
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> Well, be my guesst.
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> Be quite assured, my fine Christian Zionist enemy, the more you will rant and assault Islam, the broadly it is going to be embraced in the United states.
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>   You are falsely portraying about healing Muslims by praying to Jesus.
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> Don’t forget, that I already live with Christians here in Egypt.
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> These deceptions were already detected for ages.
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> For the sake of preserving the well renowned recognition of the Coptic Church, I will skip unveiling many shameful scandals. 
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> But trust me, I am aware of dozens of them.
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> Every faithful denomination will strive in the cause of proving its validity.
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> But the point is, there are independently arranged reassessments to verify attesting what someone claims to be the truth.
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> Christians constantly talk about healing Muslims by praying to Jesus. But, have they proved that to be truth and theologically unbiased?
>       Well, it is politically prejudicial and stereotyped.
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>  Those who chose to utterly abandon Christianity were all either theologically highly educated, priests, pastors, or former preachers.
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> Well, I knew, that all of you, will probably abide by the vague proposition, that the current form of the Bible, is emphatically the inspiringly divined word.
>  But unfortunately, you can’t authenticate that proposition informatively.
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> The Mormons, for instance, they have their own version of the Bible.
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> They utterly decline what other Christian denominations have affirmed as the inerrant divined word.
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> Protestantism, however, is the theological system of any of the churches of western Christendom that separated from the Roman Catholic Church, and they also have their own affirmation of the Bible.
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> The copts of Egypt, have also their own formulation of the Bible.
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> So, what shall I believe, if I wanted to be a Christian?
> Christians have exhibited the political motivation, which instigates the rubric of opposing Islam.
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> Westerned Christians, and in particular, the inhabitants of the United states, are politically motivated to impose their hidden plot of splitting the Muslim world apart, to chiefly assist Israel expanding its colonial occupation, to expand its settlement construction, to repress Palestinian innocent civilians,  to encourage for civil war as in Syria, to blister  domestic conflicts and sectarianism. 
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>      Well, please, pray to your Lord, and I shall pray to mine.
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> There at the end, someone will be the follower of the truth, and his opponent, will allegedly be guilty of putrescence.
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> I am hopeful in the grace of God.
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> I never arrogantly guaranteed for myself, that I will be prosper.
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> I will be neutral in the following statement.  
> Upon them be peace, those who will resident in the state of prosperity, in the here after.
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