[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.

Poppa Bear heavens4real at gmail.com
Wed Sep 4 02:43:09 UTC 2013 

I agree brother Timothy.
In His grip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Timothy Clark Music" <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
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> oh i agree.
> but god will and can already tell.
> based on what they are preaching and such.
> the only thing i'm saying is we ahve to be careful as a church isn't 
> always wwhat it seems.
> we can't just go to a church because it's close to home but we go based on 
> the truth.
> Timothy
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> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>
>> Some of these pastors who are preaching this so called luke warm Gospel 
>> think they are on fire for God. It can be more involved than making calls 
>> from the cheep seats about what this, or that Churches motives are.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" 
>> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 5:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>
>>
>>> poppabare, the church as a whole is what i'm mainly talking about.
>>> and believe me, you would know if you're on fire for jesus.
>>> Timothy
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>>>
>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can we Name one person who is 100% on fire for God? This is kind of 
>>>> silly, the Church is full of sinners who are forgiven and redeamed, but 
>>>> still flawed and scarred. I Imagine the the Church at Corenth wasn't up 
>>>> to snuff, but Paul didn't tell anybody to stop going. This isn't lone 
>>>> wolf Mavric religeon, we of corse do attempt to confront false 
>>>> teachings, but I find that we become much more concern with pointing 
>>>> out the flaws of our Lords bride than we do loving our neighbors as 
>>>> ourselves. Another thing, I find that many Christians who have all 
>>>> kinds of reasons why they don't go to church, comes down to the fact 
>>>> that they do not want to submit  to the Pastor as their spiritual 
>>>> leader, it comes down to pride more than you would think.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mentink" 
>>>> <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 5:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Andrew, it's not what you feel that matters, but what God's Word says. 
>>>>> Please don't lump all churches into one or two categories. There are 
>>>>> still many good churches. Please take care not to offend anyone here. 
>>>>> You don't have all the answers; none of us does. Computer churches are 
>>>>> just as likely to err as are brick and mortar ones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>
>>>>> Linda
>>>>>
>>>>> At 08:15 PM 9/3/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>> and just because a church is growing and things does not mean it is a
>>>>>> good church.  because there are allot of pastors that preach  a luke
>>>>>> warm message just to attract numbers and  give them a warm 
>>>>>> comfortable
>>>>>> pew things like that.  so the thing is having these big churches are
>>>>>> not always good.  after all it shouldn't be about the numbers it
>>>>>> should be  teaching the bible and the hard truth of what the word 
>>>>>> says
>>>>>> not man says.  and most churches are about money.  some churches have
>>>>>> become so rich it seems that it is not even funny. I am not saying
>>>>>> lots of money or being rich is bad but  how are we using it to get
>>>>>> welth and prosperity the thing is this  god's idea of prosperity is
>>>>>> being in him and his kingdom.   besides we can't take our pozessions
>>>>>> to heaven we can't take our money to heaven just souls that come to
>>>>>> Christ.  I feel like allot of churches are just storeing up treasure
>>>>>> on earth in things.   I feel that today's church is just so luke warm
>>>>>> as I said earlier until people get serious   there is no sence in
>>>>>> calling ourselves Christian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/3/13, Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > Ashley, they might be teaching from the bible but are they teaching 
>>>>>> >  > it
>>>>>> > correctly.
>>>>>> >  for example, do they teach that the god head is 3 rapped up into
>>>>>> the son of
>>>>>> > god jesus christ?
>>>>>> >  this is why when prayers are said we say father or jesus.
>>>>>> >  they are all 3 rapped into 1 god head.
>>>>>> >  and, when they baptize, do they baptize in the name of jesus or > 
>>>>>> > father > son
>>>>>> > and holy ghost.
>>>>>> >  there's a lot that goes on that people accept that just is not > > 
>>>>>> > correct.
>>>>>> >  i'm not saying your church is wrong just that there are a lot that 
>>>>>> >  > > are.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Timothy
>>>>>> >  Your friend in the music industry
>>>>>> >  follow me on twitter @timothyclark13
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>>>>>> >  > to
>>>>>> > http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
>>>>>> >  feel free to give me a call at
>>>>>> >  7244011224
>>>>>> >  note, if i don't answer your call just leave me a voicemail and 
>>>>>> > i'll >  > get
>>>>>> > back in contact with you as soon as possible
>>>>>> >  thanks and god bless
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Andrew,
>>>>>> >> Nothing could be further from the truth! Many large churches, 
>>>>>> >> mainly >>  >> the
>>>>>> >> evangelical churches, do reach out.
>>>>>> >> They are growing and growing.  They are very Christ centered. For 
>>>>>> >>  >> >> instance
>>>>>> >> the evangelical church me and my dad tried has 6 campuses or more! 
>>>>>> >>  >>  >> They
>>>>>> >> not only have small groups, but larger groups to study the word. I 
>>>>>> >>  >>  >> don't
>>>>>> >> know where you get such ideas that saintain is infultrating the >> 
>>>>>> >>  >> church.
>>>>>> >> You said
>>>>>> >> "if we soon don't get serious about god  he will for sure take his 
>>>>>> >>  >>  >> hand
>>>>>> >> off the church. this is the last days.  "
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Well, I can tell you that I was raised Methodist and those 
>>>>>> >> Christian
>>>>>> >> friends who were raised in the church
>>>>>> >> knew about God and ethical values and what Christianity meant.
>>>>>> >> Churches do reach out. Examples are websites where sermons are >> 
>>>>>> >> posted
>>>>>> >> online, newcomer classes, discipleship classes, small groups, and 
>>>>>> >>  >> >> numerous
>>>>>> >> fellowship activities.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I'd have to say you are truly missing a lot by sitting around at 
>>>>>> >>  >> home >> in
>>>>>> >> front of  a computer. You miss the fellowship. You miss sharing 
>>>>>> >> your >>  >> views
>>>>>> >> with others in person. You miss the fact that people come up and 
>>>>>> >>  >> know >> you
>>>>>> >> by name and ask how things are going.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I'm not saying you have to go to the brick and
>>>>>> >> mourter church to be a good Christian. But I feel you will have a 
>>>>>> >>  >> >> deeper
>>>>>> >> experience going to one.
>>>>>> >> You raised the issue about transportation. Maybe if you voice your 
>>>>>> >>  >>  >> needs
>>>>>> >> to someone in a nearby church they will help you.
>>>>>> >> I feel you gave up on church before trying to make a bigger effort 
>>>>>> >>  >> to >> get
>>>>>> >> there.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I know how it is not feeling fully included.  experienced this a 
>>>>>> >> lot >>  >> in
>>>>>> >> youth group and even sunday school before they got the readings in
>>>>>> >> braille.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> But still we should reach out and try.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I think educating any community including the church is a long 
>>>>>> >> road >>  >> and
>>>>>> >> the road is easier
>>>>>> >> if more of us participate.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Ashley
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew
>>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:18 PM
>>>>>> >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> but I feel we shouldn't tell people that they have to go to a 
>>>>>> >> brick
>>>>>> >> and morte church  at all. that is not our job I feel.  online >> 
>>>>>> >> churches
>>>>>> >> are as affective as the  off line churches. like the community I 
>>>>>> >> am
>>>>>> >> part of has people in it that have been hurt by the brick and 
>>>>>> >> morter
>>>>>> >> church.  so she is not going back she would rather take part in >> 
>>>>>> >> online
>>>>>> >> churches.  there is nothing wrong with online churches. I feel we 
>>>>>> >> as
>>>>>> >> Christians should not be telling people they have to go to a brick 
>>>>>> >>  >> and
>>>>>> >> morter church. Satan and I hate to say this but satan has the 
>>>>>> >> brick
>>>>>> >> and morter church is in his grasp because people are not fighting
>>>>>> >> back and getting the victory we need is souls coming to Christ. 
>>>>>> >> and
>>>>>> >> if we soon don't get serious about god  he will for sure take his 
>>>>>> >>  >> hand
>>>>>> >> off the church. this is the last days.  as timothy said. we are to
>>>>>> >> dependent on a church building churches are not reaching out for 
>>>>>> >>  >> souls
>>>>>> >> and  satan has as I said the church as a whole in his grasp people 
>>>>>> >>  >> are
>>>>>> >> to blind to see it. Christians truly are not standing up for god.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On 9/3/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Jenny, I totally agree. I know that the internet wasn't around 
>>>>>> >>> when
>>>>>> >>> the Bible was inspired, but I don't believe that Hebrews 10:24-25
>>>>>> >>> means that it's OK to stay home and worship with others via the
>>>>>> >>> computer. It's unfortunate that that's the only way for some of 
>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>> >>> blind community to go to church. It lets church members off the 
>>>>>> >>>  >>> hook,
>>>>>> >>> or so they think.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Blessings,
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Linda
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> At 12:11 PM 9/2/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>> >>>> I have been close to totally blind since birth, and I don't like 
>>>>>> >>>>  >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> movement that has been mafe to screens instead of using a book 
>>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>>> >>>> music, especially since I'm a singer.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> However, i don't think that there is any replacement for >>>> 
>>>>>> >>>> fellowship
>>>>>> >>>> and actually being among fellow christians in person and feeling 
>>>>>> >>>>  >>>> the
>>>>>> >>>> Holy Spirit.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> some churches will be happy to email you the words to the music 
>>>>>> >>>> if
>>>>>> >>>> they can figure out how to get it from power point to a document
>>>>>> >>>> format.  You just have to ask and be persistent.  also, just sit
>>>>>> >>>> down with your pastor if needbe and explain that you don't feel 
>>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>> >>>> part of the worship service without the words to the songs, or
>>>>>> >>>> whatever you are lacking.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> If we just hide away in our houses and do church there.  We're
>>>>>> >>>> giving up and the churches won't ever know how much this affects 
>>>>>> >>>>  >>>> us
>>>>>> >>>> and how to help us.  Which is what churches are supposed to be 
>>>>>> >>>>  >>>>  >>>> about.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Maybe try different churches to see where you fit in.
>>>>>> >>>> don't be limitted to the status quo.  branch out to other things 
>>>>>> >>>>  >>>> in
>>>>>> >>>> the christian arena
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> You never know if you may find just where you belong.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Jenny and Shasta
>>>>>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>>>>>> >>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> > Hi
>>>>>> >>>> > I do not believe that if God wanted us to see He would create 
>>>>>> >>>> > us
>>>>>> >>>> as sighted. Otherwise Jesus would havedone no healing because
>>>>>> >>>> everyone would have been whole at birth.
>>>>>> >>>> > Maureen
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>>>>>> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:12 PM
>>>>>> >>>> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > Hi,
>>>>>> >>>> > If this isn't a joke, can you please spell correctly?
>>>>>> >>>> > On the subject of seeing, if God wanted to have you see, he 
>>>>>> >>>> >  >>>> > would
>>>>>> >>>> create you
>>>>>> >>>> > as sighted.
>>>>>> >>>> > But he created us the way we are for a reason including the
>>>>>> >>>> > characteristic
>>>>>> >>>> > that we cannot see.
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
>>>>>> >>>> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM
>>>>>> >>>> > To: Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> >>>> > Subject: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>>> >>>> > --
>>>>>> >>>> > if you can see it beeleeve it then you can a cheeve it. dont 
>>>>>> >>>> >  >>>> >  >>>> > forget
>>>>>> >>>> > to
>>>>>> >>>> > pray. dont beeafreade to pray. prayer changes 
>>>>>> >>>> > things!Chikodinaka
>>>>>> >>>> > Happiness&Obianuju. One Love Keep Us Together. our motto song
>>>>>> >>>> > &slogan!
>>>>>> >>>> > mom told mee this at childbirth. if you try you will SekSeed. 
>>>>>> >>>> >  >>>> > try >>>> > try
>>>>>> >>>> > try agan. for if you pursivear. you will conker neverfear. try 
>>>>>> >>>> >  >>>> > try
>>>>>> >>>> > try
>>>>>> >>>> > agan|. in the words of w h u r's f m. Jacky Gails Webb! may 
>>>>>> >>>> > the >>>> >  >>>> > grace
>>>>>> >>>> > of god save you. may the will of god guide you&may the love of 
>>>>>> >>>> >  >>>> > god
>>>>>> >>>> > shine thru you
>>>>>> >>>> > i wont to see like my wife my adonnaWife. I have ben blind 
>>>>>> >>>> > sence
>>>>>> >>>> > childbirth, can i start seeing? agan or i will bee blind4ever?
>>>>>> >>>> >
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