[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
Ashley Bramlett
bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Wed Sep 4 20:05:47 UTC 2013
Hi,
I would really hope all Christians would attend a church for the truth of
Jesus not just because its close to home.
There are many factors to consider.
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From: Timothy Clark Music
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:00 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
oh i agree.
but god will and can already tell.
based on what they are preaching and such.
the only thing i'm saying is we ahve to be careful as a church isn't always
wwhat it seems.
we can't just go to a church because it's close to home but we go based on
the truth.
Timothy
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On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:59 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
> Some of these pastors who are preaching this so called luke warm Gospel
> think they are on fire for God. It can be more involved than making calls
> from the cheep seats about what this, or that Churches motives are.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music"
> <timothyclarkmusic at me.com>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>
>
>> poppabare, the church as a whole is what i'm mainly talking about.
>> and believe me, you would know if you're on fire for jesus.
>> Timothy
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>> follow me on twitter @timothyclark13
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>> thanks and god bless
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>>
>>> Can we Name one person who is 100% on fire for God? This is kind of
>>> silly, the Church is full of sinners who are forgiven and redeamed, but
>>> still flawed and scarred. I Imagine the the Church at Corenth wasn't up
>>> to snuff, but Paul didn't tell anybody to stop going. This isn't lone
>>> wolf Mavric religeon, we of corse do attempt to confront false
>>> teachings, but I find that we become much more concern with pointing out
>>> the flaws of our Lords bride than we do loving our neighbors as
>>> ourselves. Another thing, I find that many Christians who have all kinds
>>> of reasons why they don't go to church, comes down to the fact that they
>>> do not want to submit to the Pastor as their spiritual leader, it comes
>>> down to pride more than you would think.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Mentink"
>>> <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 5:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Andrew, it's not what you feel that matters, but what God's Word says.
>>>> Please don't lump all churches into one or two categories. There are
>>>> still many good churches. Please take care not to offend anyone here.
>>>> You don't have all the answers; none of us does. Computer churches are
>>>> just as likely to err as are brick and mortar ones.
>>>>
>>>> Blessings,
>>>>
>>>> Linda
>>>>
>>>> At 08:15 PM 9/3/2013, you wrote:
>>>>> and just because a church is growing and things does not mean it is a
>>>>> good church. because there are allot of pastors that preach a luke
>>>>> warm message just to attract numbers and give them a warm comfortable
>>>>> pew things like that. so the thing is having these big churches are
>>>>> not always good. after all it shouldn't be about the numbers it
>>>>> should be teaching the bible and the hard truth of what the word says
>>>>> not man says. and most churches are about money. some churches have
>>>>> become so rich it seems that it is not even funny. I am not saying
>>>>> lots of money or being rich is bad but how are we using it to get
>>>>> welth and prosperity the thing is this god's idea of prosperity is
>>>>> being in him and his kingdom. besides we can't take our pozessions
>>>>> to heaven we can't take our money to heaven just souls that come to
>>>>> Christ. I feel like allot of churches are just storeing up treasure
>>>>> on earth in things. I feel that today's church is just so luke warm
>>>>> as I said earlier until people get serious there is no sence in
>>>>> calling ourselves Christian.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/13, Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Ashley, they might be teaching from the bible but are they teaching
>>>>> > > it
>>>>> > correctly.
>>>>> > for example, do they teach that the god head is 3 rapped up into
>>>>> the son of
>>>>> > god jesus christ?
>>>>> > this is why when prayers are said we say father or jesus.
>>>>> > they are all 3 rapped into 1 god head.
>>>>> > and, when they baptize, do they baptize in the name of jesus or >
>>>>> > father > son
>>>>> > and holy ghost.
>>>>> > there's a lot that goes on that people accept that just is not > >
>>>>> > correct.
>>>>> > i'm not saying your church is wrong just that there are a lot that
>>>>> > > > are.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Timothy
>>>>> > Your friend in the music industry
>>>>> > follow me on twitter @timothyclark13
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>>>>> > 7244011224
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>>>>> > i'll > > get
>>>>> > back in contact with you as soon as possible
>>>>> > thanks and god bless
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> Andrew,
>>>>> >> Nothing could be further from the truth! Many large churches,
>>>>> >> mainly >> >> the
>>>>> >> evangelical churches, do reach out.
>>>>> >> They are growing and growing. They are very Christ centered. For
>>>>> >> >> >> instance
>>>>> >> the evangelical church me and my dad tried has 6 campuses or more!
>>>>> >> >> >> They
>>>>> >> not only have small groups, but larger groups to study the word. I
>>>>> >> >> >> don't
>>>>> >> know where you get such ideas that saintain is infultrating the >>
>>>>> >> >> church.
>>>>> >> You said
>>>>> >> "if we soon don't get serious about god he will for sure take his
>>>>> >> >> >> hand
>>>>> >> off the church. this is the last days. "
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Well, I can tell you that I was raised Methodist and those
>>>>> >> Christian
>>>>> >> friends who were raised in the church
>>>>> >> knew about God and ethical values and what Christianity meant.
>>>>> >> Churches do reach out. Examples are websites where sermons are >>
>>>>> >> posted
>>>>> >> online, newcomer classes, discipleship classes, small groups, and
>>>>> >> >> >> numerous
>>>>> >> fellowship activities.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'd have to say you are truly missing a lot by sitting around at >>
>>>>> >> home >> in
>>>>> >> front of a computer. You miss the fellowship. You miss sharing
>>>>> >> your >> >> views
>>>>> >> with others in person. You miss the fact that people come up and >>
>>>>> >> know >> you
>>>>> >> by name and ask how things are going.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'm not saying you have to go to the brick and
>>>>> >> mourter church to be a good Christian. But I feel you will have a
>>>>> >> >> >> deeper
>>>>> >> experience going to one.
>>>>> >> You raised the issue about transportation. Maybe if you voice your
>>>>> >> >> >> needs
>>>>> >> to someone in a nearby church they will help you.
>>>>> >> I feel you gave up on church before trying to make a bigger effort
>>>>> >> >> to >> get
>>>>> >> there.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I know how it is not feeling fully included. experienced this a
>>>>> >> lot >> >> in
>>>>> >> youth group and even sunday school before they got the readings in
>>>>> >> braille.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> But still we should reach out and try.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I think educating any community including the church is a long road
>>>>> >> >> >> and
>>>>> >> the road is easier
>>>>> >> if more of us participate.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Ashley
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew
>>>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:18 PM
>>>>> >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> but I feel we shouldn't tell people that they have to go to a brick
>>>>> >> and morte church at all. that is not our job I feel. online >>
>>>>> >> churches
>>>>> >> are as affective as the off line churches. like the community I am
>>>>> >> part of has people in it that have been hurt by the brick and
>>>>> >> morter
>>>>> >> church. so she is not going back she would rather take part in >>
>>>>> >> online
>>>>> >> churches. there is nothing wrong with online churches. I feel we
>>>>> >> as
>>>>> >> Christians should not be telling people they have to go to a brick
>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>> >> morter church. Satan and I hate to say this but satan has the brick
>>>>> >> and morter church is in his grasp because people are not fighting
>>>>> >> back and getting the victory we need is souls coming to Christ.
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> if we soon don't get serious about god he will for sure take his
>>>>> >> >> hand
>>>>> >> off the church. this is the last days. as timothy said. we are to
>>>>> >> dependent on a church building churches are not reaching out for >>
>>>>> >> souls
>>>>> >> and satan has as I said the church as a whole in his grasp people
>>>>> >> >> are
>>>>> >> to blind to see it. Christians truly are not standing up for god.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 9/3/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>> Jenny, I totally agree. I know that the internet wasn't around
>>>>> >>> when
>>>>> >>> the Bible was inspired, but I don't believe that Hebrews 10:24-25
>>>>> >>> means that it's OK to stay home and worship with others via the
>>>>> >>> computer. It's unfortunate that that's the only way for some of
>>>>> >>> the
>>>>> >>> blind community to go to church. It lets church members off the
>>>>> >>> >>> hook,
>>>>> >>> or so they think.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Blessings,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Linda
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> At 12:11 PM 9/2/2013, you wrote:
>>>>> >>>> I have been close to totally blind since birth, and I don't like
>>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> movement that has been mafe to screens instead of using a book
>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>> >>>> music, especially since I'm a singer.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> However, i don't think that there is any replacement for >>>>
>>>>> >>>> fellowship
>>>>> >>>> and actually being among fellow christians in person and feeling
>>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> Holy Spirit.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> some churches will be happy to email you the words to the music
>>>>> >>>> if
>>>>> >>>> they can figure out how to get it from power point to a document
>>>>> >>>> format. You just have to ask and be persistent. also, just sit
>>>>> >>>> down with your pastor if needbe and explain that you don't feel a
>>>>> >>>> part of the worship service without the words to the songs, or
>>>>> >>>> whatever you are lacking.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> If we just hide away in our houses and do church there. We're
>>>>> >>>> giving up and the churches won't ever know how much this affects
>>>>> >>>> >>>> us
>>>>> >>>> and how to help us. Which is what churches are supposed to be
>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> about.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Maybe try different churches to see where you fit in.
>>>>> >>>> don't be limitted to the status quo. branch out to other things
>>>>> >>>> >>>> in
>>>>> >>>> the christian arena
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> You never know if you may find just where you belong.
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> Jenny and Shasta
>>>>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>>>>> >>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> > Hi
>>>>> >>>> > I do not believe that if God wanted us to see He would create
>>>>> >>>> > us
>>>>> >>>> as sighted. Otherwise Jesus would havedone no healing because
>>>>> >>>> everyone would have been whole at birth.
>>>>> >>>> > Maureen
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>>>>> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:12 PM
>>>>> >>>> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > Hi,
>>>>> >>>> > If this isn't a joke, can you please spell correctly?
>>>>> >>>> > On the subject of seeing, if God wanted to have you see, he
>>>>> >>>> > >>>> > would
>>>>> >>>> create you
>>>>> >>>> > as sighted.
>>>>> >>>> > But he created us the way we are for a reason including the
>>>>> >>>> > characteristic
>>>>> >>>> > that we cannot see.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
>>>>> >>>> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM
>>>>> >>>> > To: Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> >>>> > Subject: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > --
>>>>> >>>> > if you can see it beeleeve it then you can a cheeve it. dont
>>>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > forget
>>>>> >>>> > to
>>>>> >>>> > pray. dont beeafreade to pray. prayer changes
>>>>> >>>> > things!Chikodinaka
>>>>> >>>> > Happiness&Obianuju. One Love Keep Us Together. our motto song
>>>>> >>>> > &slogan!
>>>>> >>>> > mom told mee this at childbirth. if you try you will SekSeed.
>>>>> >>>> > >>>> > try >>>> > try
>>>>> >>>> > try agan. for if you pursivear. you will conker neverfear. try
>>>>> >>>> > >>>> > try
>>>>> >>>> > try
>>>>> >>>> > agan|. in the words of w h u r's f m. Jacky Gails Webb! may the
>>>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > grace
>>>>> >>>> > of god save you. may the will of god guide you&may the love of
>>>>> >>>> > >>>> > god
>>>>> >>>> > shine thru you
>>>>> >>>> > i wont to see like my wife my adonnaWife. I have ben blind
>>>>> >>>> > sence
>>>>> >>>> > childbirth, can i start seeing? agan or i will bee blind4ever?
>>>>> >>>> >
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