[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.

Wed Sep 4 17:25:20 UTC 2013

Thanks, Andrew.    Debby

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On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Andrew <andrewjedg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have the same problem as you debby I been struggling with the bible
> I  in fact hardly get into it I  as well when I pray feel like I am
> just not hearing from god and that he is separated from me type of
> thing like the wall is there.
> As far as churches go  large churches you can get very lost in them
> and not noticed things like that.    I get tired of people not truly
> reaching out to each other and I experienced that at a previous church
> the pastor basically wouldn't understand that I wanted to do stuff.
> and he said to me  there is nothing for me that type of thing but to
> top it off  there was allot of drama in the church in the last few
> months so finally I said enough is an enough and I got out of there
> some people seemed to try to pull me in over the  stuff going on
> because of my experiences but I felt it best I got out  out of there
> until this settled but I am attending else where  where it is drama
> free.   and I feel like this previous church wouldn't even let my try
> my hands at some things to me that is how  you find  your place is by
> stepping out and trying but  pastors there seemed to just say we will
> find you something just to brush me off that is how I felt  one pastor
> I kept calling him and leaving messages but he finally told me in the
> end  at an amusement park while waiting for a coaster that he could
> not even get greeting thing started for example I felt like saying to
> him  "you did not even give me a try h who are you to say I couldn't
> do that  I can't do that" I put in quotes what I felt like saying.
> that is the part that is so sick really when the people with
> disabilities get pushed to the back pew basically.  that is my rant on
> the topic.  debby I will be emailing you more information pertaining
> the site  site soon.
> 
> On 9/4/13, Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi, I hope you don't mind that I am replying to you privately.  It is true
>> that I have a HUGE disappointment, and a lot of anger.  I am actually afraid
>> that I can't find my way back to God again.  When I try and pray, it is like
>> there is this terrible high wall that surrounds me, except for when I need
>> something.  What a childish way to approach The Lord after all He has done
>> for me.  But it's where I'm at right now.  When I try to read the Bible, my
>> mind wanders away.  Interestingly enough, I have been reading two novels, In
>> This House of Brede, which is mainly onbe woman's story as she enters a
>> Benedictine monastery, and the other is about an Order of nuns called
>> Bethanie and the life of a woman who comes out of a life of prostitution and
>> joins the women of Bethanie.  I have no idea why I chose to read those
>> particular books at this time.
>> 
>> I must have some desire for The Lord deep iunside me because when Iset up my
>> Pandora recently I chose several Christian stations.  If you don't mind
>> praying for me I would appreciate it.    Blessings,    Debby
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:47 PM, "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for your words Debbie, and sharing about that none who impacted
>>> your life in such a powerful way. You know I find that much of the time I
>>> become disappointed and disenchanted with the Church it is because of
>>> something that is going on inside of me. I can say I am trying to lean on
>>> the Lord, but if I am honest with myself during those times I feel that I
>>> am really harboring some disappointment inside of me, some sin or
>>> stubbornness. When I am right with the Lord it doesn't matter if there is
>>> ten feet of snow outside, I just want to be in a building where somebody
>>> loves the name of Jesus, where I can hear one sentence read from the
>>> Bible, one song sung together in public/corporate worship. At that moment,
>>> I want to show God how thankful I am for all the blessings I do have, I
>>> want to sacrifice my discomforts, inconveniences and all of my silly hang
>>> ups, I want to bring them to his alter, I want to bare my crosses. I want
>>> to be in a place where I know that somebody has had that encounter with
>>> the Savior, even if I don't talk to them, just to know that they have been
>>> at the same feet. Just to be in a place where there are hurting people,
>>> scarred and broken just like me, full of regrets, mistakes and shame that
>>> can only be taken away by the Blood, that is what I want the
>>> crystallization of my worship to consist of, that and so much more, things
>>> that I can't put into words, but things I don't get sitting at home fault
>>> finding my Lords bride. It is like we are all mother-in-laws finding
>>> faults with our Sons brides to be sometimes, there isn't any bride or
>>> groom good enough for parents, but through faith and love we press on and
>>> still give our blessings.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debby Phillips"
>>> <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>; <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 8:35 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Pospa Bear, you make so much sense.  I guess I'd like to just say that
>>>> nobody except the Lord can judge whether a brother or sister is "on fire"
>>>> for God.  One of the most "on fire" people I ever knew was a Benedictine
>>>> nun.  She loved Jesus with all of her being, but she didn't make huge
>>>> ripples in the world, and many of you would say that because she's
>>>> Catholic she couldn't possibly be Christian.  But I watched her as she
>>>> loved the other nuns in her community, as she loved me (she was one of my
>>>> readers) but it wasn't just reading that she did for me.  She encouraged
>>>> me when others didn't, she loved everybody.  She showed kindness when it
>>>> would have been easy to be mean-spirited.  She just quietly went about
>>>> her day, doing what she had to do.  She was in remission from cancer, and
>>>> eventually she got sick again.  I visited her in her room.  It was a
>>>> place of peace, filled with the Presence of God.  To my knowledge, she
>>>> didn't protest anything, didn't go on the Internet and write petitions or
>>>> whatever.  She just loved God and loved the people that God put in her
>>>> life.  When she died, I know there were tears, but there was great joy,
>>>> too.  I knew a housemother at the School for the Blind in Oregon.  She
>>>> was a kind, loving, wonderful woman of God.  She loved the Lord and that
>>>> love that she received from Him was poured out on us students.  She truly
>>>> loved us.  Yes, she cared for us because it was her job, but it wasn't
>>>> just "a job" to her.  She actually cared with her heart.  I know that
>>>> many of my friends from that school who are Christians are so because of
>>>> her.  So please, let's not judge each other about whether someone is "on
>>>> fire" for the Lord, or not, whether someone is "interpreting Scripture
>>>> truly".  Not even Bible scholars agree about everything.     Blessings,
>>>> Debby
>>>> 
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