[Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family
Poppa Bear
heavens4real at gmail.com
Thu Sep 5 20:37:49 UTC 2013
Andrew, how old are you and how long have you been without sight if you
don't mind me asking.
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From: "Andrew" <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
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Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family
>I am not griping and complaining at all linda. lady you better stop
> judging me. I am just being honest about how I feel l I don't want
> to be around home much at all I would rather be out and about doing
> things like sighted people are doing I can't read the bible because I
> don't understand it. I don't get what it says or anything.
>
> On 9/5/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Do you have a list telling what each one does? I have been searching for
>> such a list.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Poppa
>> Bear
>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 1:53 AM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family
>>
>> Hello Justin, it is genrally used as a Psalm that helps dispel fear and
>> helps us to put our eyes on God and not our circumstances. Below is some
>> stuff that gives a more in depth look at this Psalm, Psalm 27. I hope it
>> helps some.
>> Fear is disabled by God's presence - verses 1-6
>>
>> God's presence supersedes God's enemies - verses 1-3
>>
>> King David, who penned these words in Psalm 27, knew the meaning of the
>> word
>> fear better than most. His life consisted of one vicious attack on his
>> life
>> after another. For years he was the number one fugitive in Israel, always
>> hiding from the wrath of King Saul. Later on, his life was threatened by
>> the
>> revolt of his own son Absalom.
>>
>> We may not find ourselves as outcasts, pursued by potential murderers,
>> with our lives on the line. But our problems still plague us. Our hope
>> evaporates as our resources diminish fast. We may feel that to be left at
>> the mercy of circumstances, under their tyranny, is to be torn apart and
>> left with nothing.
>>
>> David begins with a sense of certainty, of calm in the midst of a
>> storm.
>>
>> The starting point for David and us are not the circumstances, are not
>> the
>> problems, but the God who is in control of all those circumstances. David
>> does not deny the situations he faces, but those situations do not define
>> for David how he is to respond.
>>
>> During World War II, a military governor met with General George Patton
>> in
>> Sicily. When he praised Patton for his courage and bravery, the general
>> replied, "Sir, I am not a brave man. . . The truth is, I am an utter
>> craven
>> coward. I have never been within the sound of gunshot or in sight of
>> battle
>> in my whole life that I wasn't so scared that I had sweat in the palms of
>> my
>> hands. I learned very early in my life never to take counsel of my
>> fears."
>>
>> Our circumstances must never be what defines our life. Rather than
>> taking
>> counsel of our fears, we must see our life in a much larger perspective.
>> There is nothing so dark and gloomy as fear, nothing so unsettling than
>> being afraid. But when we are intimidated by people, or discouraged by
>> circumstances, God's presence provides a defense against these
>> frightening
>> circumstances.
>>
>> It is not said merely that the Lord gives light, but that He "is"
>> light;
>> nor that He gives salvation, but that He is salvation. God does not just
>> help us discover a refuge, a place where we are safe; it is He who is our
>> safety. We do not ask Him to give us these things as though they are
>> independent of God, but they describe who our God is.
>>
>> God's presence is the light which chases away the shadows of despair.
>> It
>> is in the darkness that our fears take on the horrible shapes of
>> monsters.
>> That is true whether we are four or forty. We live without all the facts,
>> we
>> live in the dark, so our fears become all the more fearsome.
>>
>> The answer comes not in our manipulation of our circumstances so that
>> peace reigns in our lives. Rather trusting in God's presence, knowing
>> that
>> He is sovereign, in control, that it is He who is the light in every dark
>> corner of our life - then we can cease being intimidated by the unknown,
>> frightened by the terrors of life. The doom of depression must be
>> expelled
>> by the light of the Gospel.
>>
>> Because God is light, because He has guaranteed salvation, because He
>> is
>> a
>> fortress against whatever evil comes our way - its success is never
>> outside
>> the providence of our God; it will never succeed. The reason is simple.
>> God's control is never undermined. We must know who is all powerful, who
>> is
>> the Creator, who is in charge.
>>
>> I recall as a Cub Scout going on a trip to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds
>> in
>> Maryland to see a demonstration of military power. While the thunderous
>> explosions delighted the crowd of eight year old boys, the best part was
>> when we got to climb on and in the tanks. But as we raced toward the
>> machinery which had beaten back the Nazi onslaught a generation before,
>> after seeing the power which fought in Korea and was building up in
>> Southeast Asia - it was strange that we were told to be careful as we
>> climbed on these steal beasts. We were cautioned not that we could be
>> hurt,
>> but that we might hurt the tanks.
>>
>> In the same way, we can have confidence that no harm can come. When
>> evil
>> comes our way, it is never greater than our God. Verse 2 - they'll
>> stumble
>> and fall, they'll trip over the laces of their sandals. Even in the
>> anticipation of troubles (verse 3) there can be courage. God's presence
>> supersedes God's enemies because.
>> God's presence is seen in God's place - verses 4-6
>>
>> The reason for David's certainty of God's protection came not on a whim
>> or
>> based on a fleeting dream. But it came about because with singleness of
>> mind, David's full attention is focused on God's presence which was seen
>> in
>> God's dwelling place. David knows that only here can he find the comfort
>> to
>> endure troubling times. There is no other answer, no other solution. With
>> clarity of purpose - the answer lies in God's house.
>>
>> David may be expressing a desire to lay aside the stature of the crown
>> for
>> the robes of the tabernacle priests, if that were possible. Or he could
>> be
>> expressing a longing to get away from the pressures of the battlefield
>> and
>> join the rest of Israel in the worship of God. Whatever was his desire,
>> his
>> goal was clear - he knew that it was only by focusing his attention on
>> the
>> beauty of the Lord, seeking Him in his temple that he could find the
>> safety
>> he needed.
>>
>> What does that mean - that we've got to live each day of our life
>> inside
>> the church? In terms of safety statistics, that's not a bad idea. 20% of
>> all
>> fatal accidents occur in automobiles; 17% of all fatal accidents occur at
>> home; 16% of all fatal accidents occur in plains, trains, and boats; but
>> only 0.001% of all fatal accidents occur in church, so obviously the
>> safest
>> place to be is in church, as much as possible!
>>
>> The reason is much more sensible than that. Seeing God in the sunshine
>> of
>> worship, you can have confidence in the shadows of life. Fear fades when
>> we
>> see a sovereign God who gives us mercy.
>>
>> Worship and worry can not live in the same heart; they are mutually
>> exclusive. When we fill our minds with who our God is, when we are
>> reminded
>> what He has done for His people, worry begins to fade away.
>>
>> The focus of the worship in the Old Testament was not the personal
>> needs
>> of the congregation, it was not to offer tidbits of self-help, it was not
>> witty sayings to make one smile. The focus of the worship was God and His
>> work for His people. For that very reason we don't show up here to see
>> and
>> be seen, we do not come be entertained and made to feel more secure in
>> our
>> sin. Rather the object of our worship is the Triune God.
>>
>> The trouble is we are so often busy with so much, that the Sabbath has
>> lost its meaning. There are ball games and family gatherings, there is
>> shopping and cleaning, there is just a little more sleep. But as we crowd
>> out the worship of God from our lives, it is no wonder that fear takes
>> the
>> place of worship. They are mutually exclusive.
>> Fear is dismantled by God's grace - verses 7-14
>>
>> God's grace accepts fearful people - verses 7-10
>>
>> Having expressed the certainty that despite the mounting troubles he
>> faces, David knows the answer to his fears is found in worship. In verses
>> 7-14 there is a shift in the Psalm from the positive declaration that the
>> evil men will fail to a plaintive cry for help. In the second half of the
>> Psalm we hear the content of his worship. But it is not just pollyannaish
>> musings. David cries to the Lord. He recognizes that for God to rescue
>> him,
>> for God to deal with his fears, is an act of God's grace.
>>
>> David doesn't try to argue his case before God that he is worthy of
>> God's
>> time. He knows he does not deserve God's grace, but petitions God to
>> listen
>> based on God's character.
>>
>> Some people say that maturity is demonstrated by faith that never
>> struggles, by rising above the tide of this grimy world and living in
>> some
>> kind of exalted plane where you are never uncertain, never afraid, never
>> assailed. But David's struggle is refreshingly real. Knowing that God is
>> sovereign, that He will never leave us or forsake us is foundational to
>> our
>> Christian life, but that never means we won't wonder "why?"
>>
>> David approaches God because of God's grace which allows him to come.
>>
>> It would be not only presumptuous to barge into the Oval Office, it
>> would
>> be downright deadly. The Secret Service is well armed and only a deranged
>> man would dare to be so bold. How much more dangerous to go before God?
>> But
>> David knows he can pray, he can worship because he comes with an
>> invitation
>> in hand. God accepts fearful people like David, like me.
>>
>> To seek the face of a king meant to seek his favor and forgiveness and
>> mercy. This doesn't mean: seek what God can do for you, but rather, to
>> seek
>> Him. Come to Him not only to receive gifts or relief from your troubles
>> or
>> answers to your prayers, but to know Him.
>>
>> In verse 9 David is distressed; it seems that he is uncertain as to
>> what
>> God will do.
>> He does not want God to conceal His face. He does not want to lose the
>> intimacy, the personal communication he has with God at this point. David
>> doesn't want God to shoo him away in disgust, ignore him and forget him.
>> But
>> then at the end there is a confession, an acknowledgment that God will
>> not
>> do this: "you have been my helper."
>>
>> In the past God has been there. So, since God does not change, he has
>> nothing to worry about. God will not leave him. As unlikely as it is for
>> parents to abandon their children, yet it happens - God would never do
>> that.
>>
>> As unthinkable as it is for a mother to forget she has kids, God even
>> more
>> so will never forget you belong to Him.
>> God's grace teaches fearful people 11-14
>>
>> David is not asking for an easy way out. He is asking God to instruct
>> him
>> so he will know what to do. Not "God, fix this so my life will be
>> simple."
>> But "God, help me to endure this situation without harming your name."
>>
>> This is a dangerous prayer to make, but one which is very necessary.
>> David
>> prays to know God's way through the difficult situation. He wants the
>> straight path because of the oppressors. The level place, the straight
>> path,
>> is the word which means "uprightness." He asks God to show him how to
>> live
>> righteously, correctly, in the face of those that are lying about him.
>>
>> In verse 12 the form of attack seems not so much battle, but vicious
>> speech. In battle you die but once, but with a false witness you die a
>> thousand deaths. If he responds in fear, he could lash out at his
>> enemies,
>> but God's way may be different. It is very tempting to return insult for
>> insult, false information for their lies. But David knows, having seen
>> God's
>> character as he worshipped, that David could not speak that which is not
>> true.
>>
>> David then believed that he would still enjoy the goodness of God in
>> this
>> world; although he was now deprived of all experience of His favor, and
>> could see no spark of light, he is certain of one truth: God's goodness
>> will
>> be evident even in this life. Sometimes the Lord calms the storm.
>> Sometimes
>> he lets the storm rage and calms His child.
>>
>> David concludes with the simple, but profound advice: wait
>>
>> That is a word we never like to hear. Little children whine when told
>> to
>> wait, and the complaining does not diminish with age. But contained
>> within
>> the word "wait" we have a clue as to what waiting does. The origin of the
>> word is to twist, stretch. The tension which occurs during the time of
>> waiting is what produces the strength which is the benefit of waiting.
>>
>> A rope is made strong by the twisting of the fibers together so that it
>> can take the tension when the time of testing comes. You and I likewise
>> are
>> made strong by God's grace when He puts us under pressure.
>>
>> The admonition to be strong and take heart is the same form found in
>> Joshua 1:9 where Joshua is told not to be discouraged, not to fear. What
>> then is the man or woman to do in the face of adverse circumstances? He
>> or
>> she is to wait..but that implies hope, a confidence in God that He will
>> answer the prayer and vindicate the oppressed.
>> Our world is impatient. We want everything right now. We've got instant
>> tea
>> and instant coffee, instant computers and instant banking, instant
>> cameras
>> and instant re-dial on our phones. There's a sign in a shop in
>> Pennsylvania
>> that reads, "Antiques Made While You Wait." That's almost as stupid as
>> the
>> one that said, "Ears Pierced While You Wait." (You don't leave them there
>> and pick them up later!) Some things that are worthwhile don't come
>> instantly. Maturity, character, wisdom, perceptiveness, and holiness do
>> not
>> come quickly. All through the Scriptures, God tells us, be patient for
>> the
>> coming of the Lord; wait on the Lord; they that wait on the Lord shall
>> renew
>> their strength; don't grow weary in doing good, for in due season you
>> will
>> reap a harvest if you don't give up. Yet we are an impatient lot.
>>
>> When our family is in a turmoil, we become fearful. When our finances
>> are
>> a shambles, we fret over the checkbook. We want answers immediately. But
>> God
>> commands us to be patient, to wait. He's won the victory. Sometimes we
>> can
>> do little except to wait and believe. A Jewish refugee wrote an
>> inscription
>> on a wall outside Cologne, Germany, during World War II: "I believe in
>> the
>> sun, even when it's not shining. I believe in love even when I'm alone.
>> And
>> I believe in God even when He's silent."
>>
>> But God has spoken. God has an answer for you and me. On what basis can
>> we
>> be certain that our fears will not come true, that God will leave us to
>> be
>> destroyed by whatever monsters plague us by day and night? This may have
>> been David's story, but I'm not David. How can we claim this fearlessness
>> in
>> the face of frightening circumstances? How can we know the presence of
>> God's
>> grace? While this Psalm was written by David about some unknown
>> circumstances in his life, there was another one who knew even greater
>> danger, more fearsome situations and who found His refuge in the Lord.
>>
>> We can have confidence that God is our light, our salvation and our
>> refuge, for it was His own Son who, while evil men came to take Him to be
>> falsely tried and murdered, spoke and they fell to the ground. It was
>> Jesus
>> who knew far better than any of us the horrors of abandonment as He hung
>> on
>> the Cross, as He cried out to His Father, "My God, My God why have you
>> forsaken me?" But He was not completely rejected - for the Father
>> received
>> Him, as we know, on the third day when He rose from the dead. It was then
>> that He could see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
>>
>> His success is now ours - not just by example, but by imputation. Jesus
>> Christ is the light of the world; with Him we will never walk in
>> darkness.
>> Christ will keep us safe; He is the rock on which we are set secure.
>> July 11, 1999
>> Corner stone Church notes on Psalm 27 ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 5:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family
>>
>>
>>> What is that psalm used for? It seems like one of protection against
>>> enemies? Do you have a psalm book which tells which psalm is suppose
>>> to be prayed for different situations? I would find that very useful.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Poppa Bear
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:35 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family
>>>
>>> Hello Andrew, I hope you can find some relefe and peace of mind in
>>> your situation, I pasted a Psalm of David below, perhaps you can read
>>> it and even offer it to God as a prayer. I find that praying the
>>> psalms can help me when I just don't have the words to pray.
>>> Psalm 27
>>> Of David.
>>> 1 The LORD is my light and my salvation- whom shall I fear?
>>> The LORD is the stronghold of my life- of whom shall I be afraid?
>>> 2 When evil men advance against me
>>> to devour my flesh, [
>>> 1]
>>> when my enemies and my foes attack me, they will stumble and fall.
>>> 3 Though an army besiege me,
>>> my heart will not fear;
>>> though war break out against me,
>>> even then will I be confident.
>>> 4 One thing I ask of the LORD ,
>>> this is what I seek:
>>> that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to
>>> gaze upon the beauty of the LORD and to seek him in his temple.
>>> 5 For in the day of trouble
>>> he will keep me safe in his dwelling;
>>> he will hide me in the shelter of his tabernacle and set me high upon
>>> a rock.
>>> 6 Then my head will be exalted
>>> above the enemies who surround me;
>>> at his tabernacle will I sacrifice with shouts of joy; I will sing and
>>> make music to the LORD .
>>> 7 Hear my voice when I call, O LORD ;
>>> be merciful to me and answer me.
>>> 8 My heart says of you, "Seek his [
>>> 2]
>>> face!"
>>> Your face, LORD , I will seek.
>>> 9 Do not hide your face from me,
>>> do not turn your servant away in anger; you have been my helper.
>>> Do not reject me or forsake me,
>>> O God my Savior.
>>> 10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me.
>>> 11 Teach me your way, O LORD ;
>>> lead me in a straight path
>>> because of my oppressors.
>>> 12 Do not turn me over to the desire of my foes, for false witnesses
>>> rise up against me, breathing out violence.
>>> 13 I am still confident of this:
>>> I will see the goodness of the LORD
>>> in the land of the living.
>>> 14 Wait for the LORD ;
>>> be strong and take heart
>>> and wait for the LORD .
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andrew" <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk" <Faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:12 AM
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi group
>>>>
>>>> I need some prayer for my brother still he is very sick and he still
>>>> has this limes disease. sometimes he refuses the treatments and it
>>>> is very hard on my family me included.
>>>>
>>>> I am just not taking things very well myself. I feel like my
>>>> brother is trying to take control of things in the house when I do
>>>> guitar or do this or do that and I don't take being controlled vey
>>>> well but my family had a cafuffal yesterday and I never ate
>>>> anything like I still drink water but I only ate a peace of cheese.
>>>> and after that I never had a real good mean since sunday. and did
>>>> not want lunch. I just feel very iceolated in a rural area and my
>>>> dad refuses to see truly how I feeling living at at the farm. but oh
>>>> well I have not eaten any food or anything just drank water but
>>>> things are just very hard on me and family because of my brother and
>>>> I not sure if I can take anymore when it comes to my brother his he
>>>> feels he has to be sencitive to everything. but anyway I not sure if
>>>> I can take it any longer. just pray is all you can do.
>>>>
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