[Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family

Poppa Bear heavens4real at gmail.com
Thu Sep 5 23:04:12 UTC 2013


Justin, I found the advice that Debby gave you good and to add to it, here 
is a site that provides vurses in catagories that are very helpful, it is 
topical and here is a short sample of their catagories and after the sample 
I will provide the link to the website.
Topics,
Accomplishment - Achieving - Overcoming - Success - Victory - Reward
Addictions - Alcohol - Drugs - Obesity - Tobacco - Pornography - 
Abstinence - Temperance
Adultery - Carnality - Decadence - Physical Lust - Immorality - Hedonism - 
Sexual Impurity - Shame
http://www.godswordsofcomfort.com/
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> Do you have a list telling what each one does? I have been searching for
> such a list.
>
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> Bear
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> Hello Justin, it is genrally used as a Psalm that helps dispel fear and
> helps us to put our eyes on God and not our circumstances. Below is some
> stuff that gives a more in depth look at this Psalm, Psalm  27. I hope it
> helps some.
> Fear is disabled by God's presence  - verses 1-6
>
> God's presence supersedes God's enemies  - verses 1-3
>
> King David, who penned these words in Psalm 27, knew the meaning of the 
> word
> fear better than most. His life consisted of one vicious attack on his 
> life
> after another. For years he was the number one fugitive in Israel, always
> hiding from the wrath of King Saul. Later on, his life was threatened by 
> the
> revolt of his own son Absalom.
>
>  We may not find ourselves as outcasts, pursued by potential murderers,
> with our lives on the line. But our problems still plague us. Our hope
> evaporates as our resources diminish fast. We may feel that to be left at
> the mercy of circumstances, under their tyranny, is to be torn apart and
> left with nothing.
>
>  David begins with a sense of certainty, of calm in the midst of a storm.
>
>  The starting point for David and us are not the circumstances, are not 
> the
> problems, but the God who is in control of all those circumstances. David
> does not deny the situations he faces, but those situations do not define
> for David how he is to respond.
>
>  During World War II, a military governor met with General George Patton 
> in
> Sicily. When he praised Patton for his courage and bravery, the general
> replied, "Sir, I am not a brave man. . . The truth is, I am an utter 
> craven
> coward. I have never been within the sound of gunshot or in sight of 
> battle
> in my whole life that I wasn't so scared that I had sweat in the palms of 
> my
> hands. I learned very early in my life never to take counsel of my fears."
>
>  Our circumstances must never be what defines our life. Rather than taking
> counsel of our fears, we must see our life in a much larger perspective.
> There is nothing so dark and gloomy as fear, nothing so unsettling than
> being afraid. But when we are intimidated by people, or discouraged by
> circumstances, God's presence provides a defense against these frightening
> circumstances.
>
>  It is not said merely that the Lord gives light, but that He "is" light;
> nor that He gives salvation, but that He is salvation. God does not just
> help us discover a refuge, a place where we are safe; it is He who is our
> safety. We do not ask Him to give us these things as though they are
> independent of God, but they describe who our God is.
>
>  God's presence is the light which chases away the shadows of despair. It
> is in the darkness that our fears take on the horrible shapes of monsters.
> That is true whether we are four or forty. We live without all the facts, 
> we
> live in the dark, so our fears become all the more fearsome.
>
>  The answer comes not in our manipulation of our circumstances so that
> peace reigns in our lives. Rather trusting in God's presence, knowing that
> He is sovereign, in control, that it is He who is the light in every dark
> corner of our life - then we can cease being intimidated by the unknown,
> frightened by the terrors of life. The doom of depression must be expelled
> by the light of the Gospel.
>
>  Because God is light, because He has guaranteed salvation, because He is 
> a
> fortress against whatever evil comes our way - its success is never 
> outside
> the providence of our God; it will never succeed. The reason is simple.
> God's control is never undermined. We must know who is all powerful, who 
> is
> the Creator, who is in charge.
>
>  I recall as a Cub Scout going on a trip to the Aberdeen Proving Grounds 
> in
> Maryland to see a demonstration of military power. While the thunderous
> explosions delighted the crowd of eight year old boys, the best part was
> when we got to climb on and in the tanks. But as we raced toward the
> machinery which had beaten back the Nazi onslaught a generation before,
> after seeing the power which fought in Korea and was building up in
> Southeast Asia - it was strange that we were told to be careful as we
> climbed on these steal beasts. We were cautioned not that we could be 
> hurt,
> but that we might hurt the tanks.
>
>  In the same way, we can have confidence that no harm can come. When evil
> comes our way, it is never greater than our God. Verse 2 - they'll stumble
> and fall, they'll trip over the laces of their sandals. Even in the
> anticipation of troubles (verse 3) there can be courage. God's presence
> supersedes God's enemies because.
> God's presence is seen in God's place  - verses 4-6
>
>  The reason for David's certainty of God's protection came not on a whim 
> or
> based on a fleeting dream. But it came about because with singleness of
> mind, David's full attention is focused on God's presence which was seen 
> in
> God's dwelling place. David knows that only here can he find the comfort 
> to
> endure troubling times. There is no other answer, no other solution. With
> clarity of purpose - the answer lies in God's house.
>
>  David may be expressing a desire to lay aside the stature of the crown 
> for
> the robes of the tabernacle priests, if that were possible. Or he could be
> expressing a longing to get away from the pressures of the battlefield and
> join the rest of Israel in the worship of God. Whatever was his desire, 
> his
> goal was clear - he knew that it was only by focusing his attention on the
> beauty of the Lord, seeking Him in his temple that he could find the 
> safety
> he needed.
>
>  What does that mean - that we've got to live each day of our life inside
> the church? In terms of safety statistics, that's not a bad idea. 20% of 
> all
> fatal accidents occur in automobiles; 17% of all fatal accidents occur at
> home; 16% of all fatal accidents occur in plains, trains, and boats; but
> only 0.001% of all fatal accidents occur in church, so obviously the 
> safest
> place to be is in church, as much as possible!
>
>  The reason is much more sensible than that. Seeing God in the sunshine of
> worship, you can have confidence in the shadows of life. Fear fades when 
> we
> see a sovereign God who gives us mercy.
>
>  Worship and worry can not live in the same heart; they are mutually
> exclusive. When we fill our minds with who our God is, when we are 
> reminded
> what He has done for His people, worry begins to fade away.
>
>  The focus of the worship in the Old Testament was not the personal needs
> of the congregation, it was not to offer tidbits of self-help, it was not
> witty sayings to make one smile. The focus of the worship was God and His
> work for His people. For that very reason we don't show up here to see and
> be seen, we do not come be entertained and made to feel more secure in our
> sin. Rather the object of our worship is the Triune God.
>
>  The trouble is we are so often busy with so much, that the Sabbath has
> lost its meaning. There are ball games and family gatherings, there is
> shopping and cleaning, there is just a little more sleep. But as we crowd
> out the worship of God from our lives, it is no wonder that fear takes the
> place of worship. They are mutually exclusive.
> Fear is dismantled by God's grace   - verses 7-14
>
> God's grace accepts fearful people  - verses 7-10
>
>  Having expressed the certainty that despite the mounting troubles he
> faces, David knows the answer to his fears is found in worship. In verses
> 7-14 there is a shift in the Psalm from the positive declaration that the
> evil men will fail to a plaintive cry for help. In the second half of the
> Psalm we hear the content of his worship. But it is not just pollyannaish
> musings. David cries to the Lord. He recognizes that for God to rescue 
> him,
> for God to deal with his fears, is an act of God's grace.
>
>  David doesn't try to argue his case before God that he is worthy of God's
> time. He knows he does not deserve God's grace, but petitions God to 
> listen
> based on God's character.
>
>  Some people say that maturity is demonstrated by faith that never
> struggles, by rising above the tide of this grimy world and living in some
> kind of exalted plane where you are never uncertain, never afraid, never
> assailed. But David's struggle is refreshingly real. Knowing that God is
> sovereign, that He will never leave us or forsake us is foundational to 
> our
> Christian life, but that never means we won't wonder "why?"
>
>  David approaches God because of God's grace which allows him to come.
>
>  It would be not only presumptuous to barge into the Oval Office, it would
> be downright deadly. The Secret Service is well armed and only a deranged
> man would dare to be so bold. How much more dangerous to go before God? 
> But
> David knows he can pray, he can worship because he comes with an 
> invitation
> in hand. God accepts fearful people like David, like me.
>
>  To seek the face of a king meant to seek his favor and forgiveness and
> mercy. This doesn't mean: seek what God can do for you, but rather, to 
> seek
> Him. Come to Him not only to receive gifts or relief from your troubles or
> answers to your prayers, but to know Him.
>
>  In verse 9 David is distressed; it seems that he is uncertain as to what
> God will do.
>  He does not want God to conceal His face. He does not want to lose the
> intimacy, the personal communication he has with God at this point. David
> doesn't want God to shoo him away in disgust, ignore him and forget him. 
> But
> then at the end there is a confession, an acknowledgment that God will not
> do this: "you have been my helper."
>
>  In the past God has been there. So, since God does not change, he has
> nothing to worry about. God will not leave him. As unlikely as it is for
> parents to abandon their children, yet it happens - God would never do 
> that.
>
> As unthinkable as it is for a mother to forget she has kids, God even more
> so will never forget you belong to Him.
> God's grace teaches fearful people 11-14
>
>  David is not asking for an easy way out. He is asking God to instruct him
> so he will know what to do. Not "God, fix this so my life will be simple."
> But "God, help me to endure this situation without harming your name."
>
>  This is a dangerous prayer to make, but one which is very necessary. 
> David
> prays to know God's way through the difficult situation. He wants the
> straight path because of the oppressors. The level place, the straight 
> path,
> is the word which means "uprightness." He asks God to show him how to live
> righteously, correctly, in the face of those that are lying about him.
>
>  In verse 12 the form of attack seems not so much battle, but vicious
> speech. In battle you die but once, but with a false witness you die a
> thousand deaths. If he responds in fear, he could lash out at his enemies,
> but God's way may be different. It is very tempting to return insult for
> insult, false information for their lies. But David knows, having seen 
> God's
> character as he worshipped, that David could not speak that which is not
> true.
>
>  David then believed that he would still enjoy the goodness of God in this
> world; although he was now deprived of all experience of His favor, and
> could see no spark of light, he is certain of one truth: God's goodness 
> will
> be evident even in this life. Sometimes the Lord calms the storm. 
> Sometimes
> he lets the storm rage and calms His child.
>
>  David concludes with the simple, but profound advice: wait
>
>  That is a word we never like to hear. Little children whine when told to
> wait, and the complaining does not diminish with age. But contained within
> the word "wait" we have a clue as to what waiting does. The origin of the
> word is to twist, stretch. The tension which occurs during the time of
> waiting is what produces the strength which is the benefit of waiting.
>
>  A rope is made strong by the twisting of the fibers together so that it
> can take the tension when the time of testing comes. You and I likewise 
> are
> made strong by God's grace when He puts us under pressure.
>
>  The admonition to be strong and take heart is the same form found in
> Joshua 1:9 where Joshua is told not to be discouraged, not to fear. What
> then is the man or woman to do in the face of adverse circumstances? He or
> she is to wait..but that implies hope, a confidence in God that He will
> answer the prayer and vindicate the oppressed.
> Our world is impatient. We want everything right now. We've got instant 
> tea
> and instant coffee, instant computers and instant banking, instant cameras
> and instant re-dial on our phones. There's a sign in a shop in 
> Pennsylvania
> that reads, "Antiques Made While You Wait." That's almost as stupid as the
> one that said, "Ears Pierced While You Wait." (You don't leave them there
> and pick them up later!) Some things that are worthwhile don't come
> instantly. Maturity, character, wisdom, perceptiveness, and holiness do 
> not
> come quickly. All through the Scriptures, God tells us, be patient for the
> coming of the Lord; wait on the Lord; they that wait on the Lord shall 
> renew
> their strength; don't grow weary in doing good, for in due season you will
> reap a harvest if you don't give up. Yet we are an impatient lot.
>
>  When our family is in a turmoil, we become fearful. When our finances are
> a shambles, we fret over the checkbook. We want answers immediately. But 
> God
> commands us to be patient, to wait. He's won the victory. Sometimes we can
> do little except to wait and believe. A Jewish refugee wrote an 
> inscription
> on a wall outside Cologne, Germany, during World War II: "I believe in the
> sun, even when it's not shining. I believe in love even when I'm alone. 
> And
> I believe in God even when He's silent."
>
>  But God has spoken. God has an answer for you and me. On what basis can 
> we
> be certain that our fears will not come true, that God will leave us to be
> destroyed by whatever monsters plague us by day and night? This may have
> been David's story, but I'm not David. How can we claim this fearlessness 
> in
> the face of frightening circumstances? How can we know the presence of 
> God's
> grace? While this Psalm was written by David about some unknown
> circumstances in his life, there was another one who knew even greater
> danger, more fearsome situations and who found His refuge in the Lord.
>
>  We can have confidence that God is our light, our salvation and our
> refuge, for it was His own Son who, while evil men came to take Him to be
> falsely tried and murdered, spoke and they fell to the ground. It was 
> Jesus
> who knew far better than any of us the horrors of abandonment as He hung 
> on
> the Cross, as He cried out to His Father, "My God, My God why have you
> forsaken me?" But He was not completely rejected - for the Father received
> Him, as we know, on the third day when He rose from the dead. It was then
> that He could see the goodness of the Lord in the land of the living.
>
>  His success is now ours - not just by example, but by imputation. Jesus
> Christ is the light of the world; with Him we will never walk in darkness.
> Christ will keep us safe; He is the rock on which we are set secure.
> July 11, 1999
> Corner stone Church notes on Psalm 27 ----- Original Message -----
> From: "justin williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family
>
>
>> What is that psalm used for? It seems like one of protection against
>> enemies?  Do you have a psalm book which tells which psalm is suppose
>> to be prayed for different situations? I would find that very useful.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Poppa Bear
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 2:35 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family
>>
>> Hello Andrew, I hope you can find some relefe and peace of mind in
>> your situation, I pasted a Psalm of David below, perhaps you can read
>> it and even offer it to God as a prayer. I find that praying the
>> psalms can help me when I just don't have the words to pray.
>> Psalm 27
>> Of David.
>> 1 The LORD is my light and my salvation- whom shall I fear?
>> The LORD is the stronghold of my life- of whom shall I be afraid?
>> 2 When evil men advance against me
>> to devour my flesh, [
>> 1]
>> when my enemies and my foes attack me, they will stumble and fall.
>> 3 Though an army besiege me,
>> my heart will not fear;
>> though war break out against me,
>> even then will I be confident.
>> 4 One thing I ask of the LORD ,
>> this is what I seek:
>> that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to
>> gaze upon the beauty of the LORD and to seek him in his temple.
>> 5 For in the day of trouble
>> he will keep me safe in his dwelling;
>> he will hide me in the shelter of his tabernacle and set me high upon
>> a rock.
>> 6 Then my head will be exalted
>> above the enemies who surround me;
>> at his tabernacle will I sacrifice with shouts of joy; I will sing and
>> make music to the LORD .
>> 7 Hear my voice when I call, O LORD ;
>> be merciful to me and answer me.
>> 8 My heart says of you, "Seek his [
>> 2]
>> face!"
>> Your face, LORD , I will seek.
>> 9 Do not hide your face from me,
>> do not turn your servant away in anger; you have been my helper.
>> Do not reject me or forsake me,
>> O God my Savior.
>> 10 Though my father and mother forsake me, the LORD will receive me.
>> 11 Teach me your way, O LORD ;
>> lead me in a straight path
>> because of my oppressors.
>> 12 Do not turn me over to the desire of my foes, for false witnesses
>> rise up against me, breathing out violence.
>> 13 I am still confident of this:
>> I will see the goodness of the LORD
>> in the land of the living.
>> 14 Wait for the LORD ;
>> be strong and take heart
>> and wait for the LORD .
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Andrew" <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk" <Faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 10:12 AM
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] pray for my brother and family
>>
>>
>>> Hi  group
>>>
>>> I need some prayer for my brother still he is very sick and he  still
>>> has this limes disease.  sometimes he refuses the treatments and it
>>> is very hard on my family me included.
>>>
>>> I am just not taking things very well myself.  I  feel like my
>>> brother is trying to take control of things in the house when I do
>>> guitar or do this or do that and I don't take being controlled vey
>>> well but my family had a cafuffal yesterday and  I never ate
>>> anything  like I still drink water but  I only ate a peace of cheese.
>>> and after that I never had a real good mean since sunday.  and did
>>> not want lunch.  I just feel very iceolated in a rural area and my
>>> dad refuses to see truly how I feeling living at at the farm.  but oh
>>> well I have not eaten any food or  anything just drank water but
>>> things are just very hard on me and family because of my brother and
>>> I not sure if I can take anymore when it comes to my brother his he
>>> feels he has to be sencitive to everything.  but anyway I not sure if
>>> I can take it any longer. just pray is all you can do.
>>>
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