[Faith-talk] Legalists?

Sat Dec 20 16:35:52 UTC 2014

justin, that’s correct.
Timothy Clark Ministries 

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On Kislev 28, 5775 AM, at 8:56, justin williams via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> And when I hear "The church," I think of the Christian church as a whole,
> not just the Catholic church. 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
> A. Olivares via Faith-talk
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 6:48 PM
> To: Timothy Clark Ministries
> Cc: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Legalists?
> 
> Nevertheless, "The Church" was all there was to Christianity 700 years ago.
> It was all there was to Christianity until the 16th century.
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Timothy Clark Ministries
> <timothyclarkministries at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> let's get one thing strait. 
>> when you refer to "the church" you are referring to the catholic church.
> while some might view that as the church, i do not. one denomination is not
> the christian church. 
>> the church of christ is the body of believers. we the believers are the
> bride of jesus and he's coming back again. 
>> one denomination doesn't make up the church. 
>> the church is made of members of each denomination. 
>> i'm speaking generally here so as not to offend. if i wrote this the way i
> truly feel, i would be booted off of the list for my extreme and radical
> views.
>> Timothy Clark Ministries
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.timothyclarkministries.blogspot.com
>> 
>> On Kislev 27, 5775 AM, at 14:51, Brandon A. Olivares
> <programmer2188 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, thank you. No one is going to respond favorably to forced
> conversion. The Church tried that already back in the dark ages, and the
> result wasn't good.
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Isn't the reason Jesus died on the cross for us to give us a choice? He
> wants us to have the freedom to make a choice to follow him. Christianity is
> not a religion that one is forced into. You make the choice to be there. So,
> that means that we need to gently give people the Gospel. Don't shove it
> down their throat. Give them the freedom to make choices. That's why Jesus
> came. To give us new life. God wants us to lead people to him, but by
> example, not by force.
>>>> 
>>>> Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas Vice President, Ohio 
>>>> Association of blind students Blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com "The wind 
>>>> of Heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." Arabian 
>>>> proverb
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh really? And how many more people are you saving by shoving your
> religion down their throats? In my experience, it pushes them away even
> more. Why do you think I'm not Christian? Too many Christians telling me I'm
> going to hell because I have slightly different beliefs. You might think
> that is true, but telling someone that doesn't inspire them to convert to
> your religion. They're just going to think you're a mean person.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Timothy Clark Ministries
> <timothyclarkministries at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> brandon, if we took this oh let them be approach, there would be many
> dammed to hell and their blood would be on our hands because we did nothing
> to stop them. we did nothing to try to ring them into the flock.
>>>>>> Timothy Clark Ministries
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.timothyclarkministries.blogspot.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Kislev 27, 5775 AM, at 10:34, Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sometimes, if you think someone is making a mistake, you need to let
> them make that mistake. They will learn it a lot faster than if you preach
> at them. Unfortunately the latter is the approach many Christians seem to
> take, and so it's no wonder why those outside of Christianity have such a
> negative perception of it. Sure if you like, express your opinion, once.
> Then let them do what they will do. Perhaps you are right, or perhaps they
> are right. Just let them be.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Debby Phillips via Faith-talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The problem is that sometimes people think that when people disagree
> with a decision or whatever that they're not being loving.  Loving someone
> does not necessarily mean that I will agree with everything that person
> thinks, says, decides to do.  If that were true, parents would just let
> their kids do whatever they wanted to.  (Oh, I forgot, lots do that
> nowadays).  Lol.  But seriously if I love you and you're approaching a hot
> stove with your hand outstretched, should I just let you burn your hand
> without saying something to stop you?    Blessings,    Debby and Neena
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