[Faith-talk] developmental delay among the blind

Tue Dec 30 17:16:18 UTC 2014

Hi
I think that it is not hard and fast because when the lame man in Acts got 
healed he was expecting money and was healed and some people were healed 
like the child of the Centurian who wasn't even there.  But I think when 
people are opposed to God it doesn't usually happen.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 10:35 PM
To: Timothy Clark Ministries ; Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and 
religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] developmental delay among the blind

I disagree with this, in a purely Christian context. I recall the passage 
where Jesus tried to heal people, but barely any miracles happened because 
of their lack of faith. He always emphasized how important faith is, and 
told the sick that their faith has healed them. Kind of off-topic, but just 
wanted to respond to that.

> On Dec 29, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Timothy Clark Ministries via Faith-talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> it’s never been the faith of the sick that’s gotten someone healed. it’s 
> always been the person praying for the one in need of healing. they are 
> the ones with the need for the faith. jesus when he healed had faith that 
> whatever he said would occur. same with peter. he had faith in jesus and 
> healed the blind man.
> often times, people pray just to pray without the faith to create the 
> object of their desired goal.
> praying in faith is when prayers are answered. it’s as if you are swimming 
> down stream. however, on the other hand praying without faith is like 
> swimming against a rip current. dang near impossible and 9 times out of 
> 10, you don’t survive it.
> same deal here.
> if someone want’s to pray for me, you are more than welcome but you had 
> best have faith. otherwise, you might as well not pray at all.
> Timothy Clark Ministries
>
>
>
>  http://www.timothyclarkministries.blogspot.com
>
> On Tevet 7, 5775 AM, at 16:19, Andrew via Faith-talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> the one thing is we need to allow god to help us over come this
>> developmental delay and  embrace the challenges.  The thing is this
>> the professionals are certainly not god that is for sure  and can we
>> believe everything they say that is the thing i really don't know i
>> guess  bottom line is this what do they base their facts on   because
>> a text book can be wrong.  but we know god is correct in my personal
>> opinion. I also feel that there can also be so many miss
>> understandings which does tie in to people for example trying to pray
>> blindness out of you.  there may be miss understandings in both those
>> areas  they both have things in common  as we as  blind people could
>> be interperited as having very little faith if people  for example
>> pray over us and we don't get healed things like that  and a things
>> could also be miss interperited to be a developmental delay but i also
>> feel that  need to be on the ready and not be taken off guard as to if
>> somebody wants to pray it out of you how you are going to handle it or
>> how you will be able to address it if these things come our way  allot
>> is that  educating needs to happen as well to.
>>
>> On 12/29/14, Beth Taurasi via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Well said.  I was told I had "developmental delays", and so has my
>>> boyfriend who is also lifelong blind.  We're born this way, but we do
>>> things differently.  It's bad enough you have lost the ability to read
>>> social cues, and I was also diagnosed as 80% likely Asperger's, now
>>> known as high functioning autism.  Um, really!
>>> \BethOn 12/29/2014 1:16 PM, Poppa Bear via Faith-talk wrote:
>>>> Hello Andrew, this is purely my very limited personal observation. I 
>>>> have
>>>> noticed that people who have been blind from birth or shortly after do
>>>> have
>>>> different social skills that may cause people to think that there is a
>>>> type
>>>> of developmental delay. I am not sure if it is because of the lack of
>>>> understanding visual Q's that accompany a lot of social interactions 
>>>> that
>>>> some lifelong blind people have that sometimes cause a noticeable
>>>> difference
>>>> when interacting with people in certain situations, perhaps this factor
>>>> can
>>>> play a role in how people perceive the behavior of some blind 
>>>> individuals.
>>>> I
>>>> wouldn't take it to heart though, it isn't a thing that makes a person
>>>> wrong
>>>> or bad, just different and being different is part of being alive. Some
>>>> people have big feet, big noses that they hate, squeaky voices, small
>>>> body
>>>> parts that they want enlarged, skin that they wish were darker or
>>>> lighter,
>>>> but we all make this ball of mud go round and weren't made to look or 
>>>> act
>>>> like clones. Some things are simply not in our control, so I think that
>>>> it
>>>> helps to focus on the things that we can control and we will find a 
>>>> happy
>>>> balance in our lives.
>>>> Take care, and again, this is simply my observations, not some 
>>>> scientific
>>>> or
>>>> social study.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Andrew
>>>> via Faith-talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 10:56 AM
>>>> To: Faith-talk
>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] developmental delay amung the blind
>>>>
>>>> Hi brothers and sisters in christ  just have a question. I am just
>>>> wondering
>>>> if developmental delay is quite common amung the blind?  or is  it not 
>>>> a
>>>> common thing.  I  was told by somebody that has  works with the 
>>>> disabled
>>>> locally that has done acessmen with me and i was told i have slight
>>>> developmental delay.  would people say that just for the sake of saying
>>>> that
>>>> or is this a common thing amung the blind.
>>>> i am trying to ask around about it.  e  even if i do have it i can 
>>>> praise
>>>> the lord no matter what.
>>>>
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