[Faith-talk] The Koran Commencement.

[Doris and Chris]

Dear Brother,

  when we translate the Bible, the exact same principles apply. If yu 
encountered "King James only" fundamentalists or other christian 
individuals that swore by one particular BibleBible translation, this 
does not represent the whole of Christianity. any translation is no 
longer the direct word of God but a human translation and 
interpretation thereof.

You never said what you think of Bagdeer\s  Sublime Koran. This would 
be most intersting. Please do reply.

Your sister in faith in the one most high God!

Doris


At 06:37 AM 2014/02/24 +0200, you wrote:
>     Dear all, peace be with you. Today I would like to initiate by 
> setting to Christians the proper example of how to translate the 
> Noble Koran. Many Christians today have depended on vernacular 
> editions of scripture. Contemporarily, the Bible is being written 
> in vulgar terms. Well for some Christians, it does not really 
> matter, because they do not have consecrated view of 
> scriptures.      But within Islam, everything is eminently sacred 
> about the Koran even its rhetoric. When we translate it, we keep in 
> mind that it is not the original. And at the same time, we strive 
> to make the translation as apposite as potential. I am going to 
> show you now how that is done.     Read carefully what is in the 
> section below. "001; In the name of Allah the Beneficent, the Most 
> Gracious. 002; All praises due to Allah Lord of the worlds. 003; 
> The Beneficent, the Most Gracious. 004; Master of the day of 
> judgement. 005; Ye only we worship, and Ye only we seek for help. 
> 006; Guide us to the straight path. 007; The path of those whom You 
> have favoured, not of those whom have earned thou anger, and not of 
> those who went astray". I sorted this translation out. How did I do 
> that?     I memorize these verses in its original 
> Arabic.                 I know what they mean, I know how they 
> sound in their precise divine rhetoric. Thus, I am scholarly 
> eligible to translate them into English, whilst using my 
> comprehension to express them in the proper wording. It is quite 
> important to bear in mind, that these are no longer divine words 
> when they are translated, although the meaning is still divine. 
> This is the core essence of translating the Koran into any other 
> language than Arabic. This is the way we deal with it. I guess it 
> is quite different than the Bible. The Koran is eternally preserved 
> in its initial divine speech. It is tremendously flexible to 
> express the Koranic imports variously.        The seventh verses 
> above are memorized by laymen Muslims in Arabic, and they are 
> constantly cycled in the five daily prayers. It is a blessedly 
> divine rhetoric which all Muslims ought to regularly recite. This 
> chapter is called the opening and it is aimed to concisely 
> characterize the entity of Allah glory be to Him, and it 
> articulates the relationship between us and our Creator. As someone 
> who memorizes the Noble Koran in its original Arabic and who read 
> its English translations, I can tell you with sufficient 
> confidence, that there is no comparison between the two. The Arabic 
> is the definitely divine rhetoric, whilst its English is just a 
> mortal attempt to compose humble commentaries. The Koranic 
> speech  is extraordinarily incredible in its poetic rhetoric, as 
> well as its  eloquent lexicology and philology.      Thank you for 
> reading, have a pleasant time, and peace be with you. 
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