[Faith-talk] Garden of Delight.

Doris and Chris chipmunks at gmx.net
Thu Jan 16 04:33:20 UTC 2014


hi, Mustafa,

I'm afraid as a Christian, I must agree with most of your statements. 
The Zionists of the early 20th century were the terrorists of their 
day and appeased by the British keep control of the region. Both Arab 
and Zionist had their piece of the action at the time.

We strive today for the truth and peace to survive.

Hugs and prayers to you young people of the next generation.

Doris and Chris from Lutherland.

At 05:12 AM 2014/01/16 +0200, you wrote:
>Embryology in the Noble Koran. Chapter 23, verses 12 to 14. 12, "And 
>verily We created man from an extract of clay. 13; Then We placed 
>him as a sperm-drop in a firm lodging. 14; Then We made the 
>sperm-drop into a clinging clot, and We made the clot into a lump 
>[of flesh], and We made [from] the lump, bones, and We clothed the 
>bones with flesh; then We evolved him into another creation. So 
>blessed is Allah , the best of creators". Could that be possibly the 
>conclusion of someone's schizophrenic hallucinations?     DR. Keith 
>Moore, is a well renowned Embryologist, a great scholar on the 
>profession. He is the former chairman of American Association of 
>Clinical Anatomists, and the author of worldwide notable textbooks 
>on Embryology. He is currently based in Toronto University, 
>Canada.  Let us ask him. When the verses above was translated for 
>him, he was amazed and said: "These verses contain embryological 
>statements, which someone in the conditions of Muhammad, an 
>illiterate man, living in the desert of Arabia, in the seventh 
>century could not have known on his own".   In order for Muhammad to 
>articulate all of these scientific statements, we can think of two 
>possibilities. 1; Muhammad has met someone who invented the 
>microscope. We can possibly think of the scenario, that Muhammad has 
>secretly met someone who invented the microscope, and then, he 
>taught him that embryological information.       Afterwards, 
>Muhammad bought that microscope from him, destroyed it, and killed 
>that man to cover up his trickery of the prophethood proclaimation. 
>If someone is convinced of this interpretation, please let me know. 
>The second alternative, that Muhammad has travelled by time to the 
>fifteenth century, when the microscope was first invented and then, 
>he learned that embryological information.  Afterwards, he travelled 
>back to his time, and claimed that this is a revelation from Allah. 
>If someone is convinced of this interpretation, please let me know. 
>If someone is sensible enough, he will consider these 
>interpretations as illogical, absurd, and beyond  inference. The 
>Koran exists in our hands today. Read it yourself, and strive to 
>derive some discrepancies. I am inviting all of you to assess the 
>contents of the Koran on scientific grounds. Let us see, could 
>someone who lives in the desert of Arabia be sufficiently adequate 
>to talk about the thoroughly  advanced scientific subjects which the 
>Koran covers. The Koran tells us to seek for the people of 
>knowledge, if we do not know. The test of the Koran has to be done 
>properly. We don't know Embryology, therefore, we asked the man who 
>certainly knows. When DR. Moore was asked about his explanation of 
>the embryological assertions illustrated in the Koranic verses 
>above, he decisively stated, that these accurately embryological 
>pieces of information could not be discovered in the phase of the 
>seventh century by any manner, and thus, his merely consistent 
>interpretation, that these pieces of information were revealed to 
>prophet Muhammad by Allah. It is important to note though, that 
>Professor Keith Moore is Christian. He is a broadly well renowned 
>scientist, and he does not embrace any political agendas of any 
>cults. Thus, his views are impartial and perfectly unbiased. 
>Knowledge is the light which leads to the garden of delight. This is 
>the most proper response to some detrimental statements posted 
>earlier by some individuals. Well in terms of Israel, all educated 
>people know that The Jews who immigrated, colonized and ethnically 
>invaded Palestine in 1948 are NOT descendants of the Biblical 
>Israelites.        There is no licit rationality to even argue with 
>that. The political support to Israel by some Christians reflects 
>their grave misguidedness and ignorance of the simplest facts of 
>modern history. Christians here do not believe that supporting 
>Israel is a religious duty, nor the oppressed Arab Christians in the 
>occupied Palestinian territory.    Who are the ones who believe in 
>that? Well, they are often some misadvised Christian denominations 
>and they mostly inhabit the United States, which plainly signifys a 
>political motivation more than most. Some of you may demand to read 
>about the Palestinian exile, the British mandate on Palestine, and 
>more importantly, the Balfour Declaration of recognizing Palestine a 
>Zionist state in November the second, 1917. It is historically 
>described as the pledge of the one who does not possess to the ones 
>who do not deserve.        The Conflict in the Palestinian land will 
>uninterruptedly prevail until Anti-Christ appears. He will lead 
>those who occupy Palestine now until Jesus Christ peace be upon him 
>returns. Jesus peace and blessings be upon him will return to murder 
>Anti-Christ, to decease the swines, to abolish all the covenants, to 
>break the cross, to implement justice, to lead the Muslim nation, 
>and to pronounce their ultimate conquest. We are not afraid of 
>anything. We will just await until the truth unveils. Peace be with 
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