[Faith-talk] Faith-talk Digest, Vol 78, Issue 18
Donna Elliott
donnatelliott at gmail.com
Sat Jan 18 17:30:20 UTC 2014
Paul, thank you for the list of God's promises. A wonderful way to start a weekend.
Mostafa, there are extremists in every religion; yours and mine. I live in a small town in New England, the northeast corner of the US. In the next small town, there is a mosque, where people worship without hate or interference. It is across the street from my guide dog's veterinarian.
While I realize that you are sharing your point of view, it seems you are preaching to the choir. On this list there seems to be people who are open minded enough to hear many points of view. By focusing on a few narrow minded preachers, you seem to miss the point that most ministers and priests are more open minded and do not preach hate. Hate here was the child of fear, particularly after 9-11. The majority of Christians of every denomination are followers of the message of Christ to "love one another as I have loved you".
Sincerely, Donna
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> 1. Garden of Delight, Part 3. Prophet Muhammad and the
> inhibition of the tongue. (Mostafa)
> 2. Daily Thought for Friday, January 17, 2014 (Paul)
> 3. Garden of Delight, part 4. Ignorance and extremism demolishes
> all religions. Sam shamoun and the allegation of public hate
> incitements. Please read and share everywhere. (Mostafa)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:02:44 +0200
> From: "Mostafa" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>
> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Garden of Delight, Part 3. Prophet Muhammad and
> the inhibition of the tongue.
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> Dear all, peace be with you.
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> Today I would like to profoundly reflect on the Friday serman of this week.
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> The Imam addressed the subject of prophet Muhammad and the forbiddance of the tongue.
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> For us as Muslims, our solace and contentment essentially comes from the constant remembrance of Allah glory be to Him.
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> It was a good refreshment for us to strive in avoding gossips and iniquity.
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> Prophet Muhammad has predominantly interdicted skiving the tongue, speaking immorally about others, revealing their secrets or seclusions.
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> I would like to ask those who are supposedly the conveyers of the divine word, the pastors of demonize Islam bandwagon.
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> What are the licit justifications of speaking unethically about a dead man and his household, describing them with the wickedest qualities and the foulest of terms.
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> How do you vindicate the horrible phrases that I could not repeat due to their enormous filthiness, often pronounced about prophet Muhammad and his wives by the supposedly God word conveyers.
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> Is that what Jesus taught you?
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> I dare you to say yes, because you could not say yes.
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> I really want to know how would you justify speaking dishonorably about dead people, whilst they could not even respond to your claims, which is unfair anyway.
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> I knew that you are awaiting for Jesus like us.
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> If he peace and blessings be upon him returned, and we critically believe that he will return.
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> If he returned and heard you assaulting dead people, speaking disgracefully about them, whilst he witnessed me defending their privacy, retaining their dignity.
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> Whom do you think Jesus will recognize as his follower?
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> Please relax, take a deep breath and think about it.
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> Here we are, redefining the major essence of faith.
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> Religion is not just about spiritual bundles, liturgies, Gospel studies and Church hymns.
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> More importantly, religion is the way you behave and how you treat others.
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> This is a reminder for both Muslims and Christians alike.
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> This is the way I view religion, along with many respectful people of other religions, surely including Jews and Christians.
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> For those of you who condemn profanity, and they wish to learn a bit about prophet Muhammad, I highly encourage you to go look for the lecture series entitled; the life of prophet Muhammad by Hamza Yusuf.
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> It is intriguing, simple, and thoroughly informative.
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> For those who rebelliously insist to insult the prophet with their impure tongues, I will basicly say to them;
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> Laugh now and cry later.
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> Thank you for reading, and peace be with you.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 15:26:56 -0500
> From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
> To: "Jason Meyerson" <jason at calvarymorninglight.org>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Daily Thought for Friday, January 17, 2014
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> Hello and good day once again to my loyal readers. I hope that you all are doing well.
>
> I was going to post something else today, but instead I'm going to post something which I might have sent last year, but can't remember. Anyway it's entitled "God's Promises for the New Year" by Pastor Ashman, rendered as follows:
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> I will bless thee (Genesis 12:2).
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> I will not fail thee (Joshua 1:5).
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> I will heal thee (Psalm 32:8.
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> I will guide thee (Psalm 32:8).
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> I will instruct thee (Psalm 32:8).
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> I will teach thee (Psalm 32:8).
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> I will deliver thee (Psalm 50:15).
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> I will satisfy (Psalm 132:15).
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> I will help thee (Isaiah 41:10).
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> I will strengthen thee (Isaiah 41:10).
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> I will uphold thee (Isaiah 41:10).
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> I will hold thine hand (Isaiah 42:6).
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> I will not forget thee (Isaiah 49:15).
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> I will comfort thee (Isaiah 66:13).
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> I will forgive (Jeremiah 31:34).
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> I will restore (Jeremiah 30:17).
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> I will be your God (Ezekiel 36:28).
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> I will put my Spirit within you.
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> I will save you (Ezekiel 36:27, 29).
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> I will love him (John 14:21).
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> I will manifest Myself (John 14:21).
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> I will come again (John 14:3).
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> I will sup with him (Revelation 3:20).
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> I wil give thee a crown of life (Revelation 2:10).
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> And there you have a partial list of God's promises. Those of you who are astute Bible students can, I'm sure, find others. Nevertheless I hope that these gave you a blessing as you read them today.
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> And now may the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob just keep us safe, individually and collectively, in these last days in which we live. Lord willing, tomorrow there will be another daily thought message for you. Your Christian friend and brother, Paul
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 23:10:45 +0200
> From: "Mostafa" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>
> To: <sam_shmn40 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Garden of Delight, part 4. Ignorance and
> extremism demolishes all religions. Sam shamoun and the allegation of
> public hate incitements. Please read and share everywhere.
> Message-ID: <30C25087FC914F7A8B6E9D08A035BE10 at Win7PC>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1256"
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> Dear all, peace be with you.
>
> I recall that I previously suggested banning extremist Apologists and Theologians from the public ministry.
>
> My friends responded to me with the viewpoint of considering that to be freedom of expression and thus, nothing can be done but just dismissing what offends us.
>
> Well, with all respect to this opinion, I think that represents a clear threat to religious moderation, and it justifys implanting detest.
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> We can certainly have individuals as extremists but, not the ones who supposedly are preaching to laymen.
>
> This helps escalating the radical disposition amongst the masses, which sequentially leads to aggression and disruption.
>
> The one whom his E-Mail is disclosed before you is plainly guilty of inciting hate crimes and religious defamation.
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> He explicitly contributes to the political orientation of demonizing Islam, and he is perfectly criminalized of explicitly posing hate incitements in public.
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> Where is the proof of my proclaimations?
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> Well, you can basicly google his name or his E-Mail, and just have a look at what he presents to the public on purpose.
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> I have permanently blocked him from reaching my inbox anymore, but that is not enough.
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> There must be farther actions to be taken on terminating such explicit hate incitements in the name of the divine.
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> Condemnation is not sufficient at this point, an action has to be taken.
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> I think you will agree with me, that religion could not be represented with radical views and hostile tendencies.
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> Either Judaism, Christianity or Islam, they all are equally advocating for religious tolerance and deference.
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> Consequently, it will be self-contradicting of presenting religion with tolerance and deference to other faiths, whilst at the same time, we approve some felonious individuals, to simply hate in the name of any religion.
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> It simply does not make sense to wait for any longer.
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> The step forward has to be instant, significant, and it has to be based on international level.
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> The subject is quite serious, not a joke.
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> Religion is not to be represented by such fraudsters.
>
> I am intending to contact leading proponents of the three monotheistic religions globally, in order to pace onward on raising this issue to the United Nations.
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> I warmly welcome all proposals from anyone, either from godly or godless people.
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> I consider this of a humanitarian interest.
>
> Therefore, it gravely matters on even secular and liberal levels.
>
> The proposed legislation draft consists of two major constituents.
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> 1; stating the decisively international prohibition of any religious extremism or religious desecration of any kind.
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> 2; Stating the decisively international prohibition of uttering hate incitements on religious basis, either explicitly or implicitly.
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> If anyone was found to be guilty with any of these, he has to be consecutively admonished for three times, and then, he has to be suspended from the public ministry for six months.
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> If he transgressed again, he has to be suspended for a year.
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> If he insistently returned to evoking religious intolerance for the third time, he ultimately has to be permanently deposed from the public ministry for deliberately violating the principles of religious tolerance.
>
> I think this is a reasonable suggestion to begin with.
>
> I warmly welcome all adaptations for this initiative.
>
> But seriously, something has to be done, and this religious intolerance by either some Jews, Christians or Muslims has got to stop.
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> Thank you for reading.
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> Please take it serious, and I look forward to hearing from all of you.
>
> Mostafa Almahdy, peace be with you.
>
> http://www.call-to-monotheism.com/refuting_sam_shamoun
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