[Faith-talk] Israel and the global cowardice.

Thu Jul 17 11:28:32 UTC 2014

Devon, you are correct in your perception that Old Testament Israel was the 
Chosen People of God and that Christians who accept Jesus as their personal 
Lord and Savior have the same position today.  Also, Jews who do the same 
are also included in this group as well.  I sometime wonder if Rome had any 
justification for attacking Israel in the years 70-73 A.D.? I believe they 
did, but don't have any proof as I wasn't there, and the only eyewitnesses 
have long since departed this earth.  Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Devin Prater via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Mostafa" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>; "Faith-talk,for the discussion of 
faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Israel and the global cowardice.


>I think that, at least in theSouth of the US, the support of Israel is 
>mostly of religious reasons. Sure, Israel, in the old testament, was God’s 
>“chosen people,” or at least that’s what I’ve grown up believing so correct 
>me if I’m wrong, but in the new testament, that chosenness has been given 
>to all who believe that Jesus is the savieur. But most Christians still 
>hold to the Jews as being God’s people. So they blindly support Israel in 
>all their acts and just think about Canaan being Israel’s and that Israel 
>should have it back and that Israel is God’s chosen people and so what 
>Israel is doing is what they did in Joshua so God must sanctify it. That’s 
>how they think, in my view anyway.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Mostafa via Faith-talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Greetings.
>>
>> Couple of days ago, I critically expressed my vociferous  criticism to 
>> the U.S unilateral  policy and the plain favoritism of Israel.
>>
>> In spite of the grave war crimes and this ruthless ethnic cleansing of 
>> Palestinians, American right-wing Protestant apologists responded to that 
>> with insentient perception, insisting to consider this unprecedented 
>> brutality a licit motive of self-defence.
>>
>> I would like to send my unfeigned salutes to Paul for being a respectful 
>> Christian, and for speaking up against this barbarous subjection.
>>
>> Paul is a devout Christian, and he is not politically influenced.
>>
>> On the other hand, it is absolutely blasphemous on those so called 
>> ministers of God to obstinately defend this unambiguously perpetrated 
>> cruelty.
>>
>>      I know some pastors though who stubbornly support Israel and its 
>> savage hostility.
>>
>> I would not reveal their identity to guard their reputation, and also 
>> because it is a shameful disposition when it comes from a purportedly 
>> follower of  the divine.
>>
>>  I stridently repudiate this crimson, vicious and repugnant disposal.
>>
>> Egypt has proposed a cold truce and Hamas considered that a form of 
>> surrender.
>>
>> A cease-fire cannot be unilateral, it should have been a mutual 
>> agreement.
>>
>>       Israel is militarily equipped with a tremendous American aid, and 
>> it has conspicuously  instigated ruinous  airstrikes on Gaza, murdering 
>> dozens of innocent civilians on a daily basis.
>>
>> Now what  right-wing protestant apologists are asking us to do?
>>
>> They want us to remain diffident and subservient to their magesty.
>>
>> What they call terrorist, we shall call terrorist.
>>
>> And what they call self-defence, it should have not of any offence.
>>
>>   I hold the  world and the security council accountable for mentally 
>> bearing Israel to further escalate its enormous inequity  and iniquity.
>>
>> Similarly, I unfeignedly reprobate Arab countries and Egypt for not 
>> complying to their religious and patriotic duty.
>>
>> Instead of savagely massacring each other for temporal gains, we should 
>> have stood by and defied with Palestinians against their cruel 
>> oppressors.
>>
>>  Simultaneously, the western world led by the United states of Zionism is 
>> in a constant intimidation of Israel and its predominant dominance on 
>> their both political and economical sources.
>>
>> I believe as good people in both eastern and the western world, we have 
>> to do something to decease this brutish carnage.
>>
>> I quite recognize that the western world and the U.S are filled with 
>> humanrights activists who certainly decline what Israel does.
>>
>>   But I do not want them to just watch.
>>
>> We are tired of humanrights watch, we rather want to see humanrights act.
>>
>> I need to basically discern a credibility based on substantial actions 
>> and even sanctions against Israel for its clear violation of humanrights 
>> principles, not just today, but even in multiple past incidents.
>>
>> In order to satisfactorily  respect western humanrights slogans and 
>> associations, I have to plainly notice something on the ground.
>>
>>  You just cannot respond with talks of peace to acts of aggression, that 
>> is quite absurd.
>>
>> Where is the global impact of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?
>>
>> Why they cannot propose to  the U.N or the Security Council to banned 
>> Israel from their international assemblies until it respectfully complys 
>> to basic humanrights of Palestinians.
>>
>> I call all respectful countries and Egypt on the top to instantly expel 
>> Israel’s ambassadors until they act with respect to basic humanrights.
>>
>> They have to decease random detentions, prison torture, persecution, and 
>> repeated airstrikes on civil targets.
>>
>> As a consequence, Hamas is obliged to decease discharging rocket missiles 
>> on Israel southerns.
>>
>> The instigator is to cease first and then the retaliator follows.
>>
>> I apologize for this strident post.
>>
>> As usual, I expect Israel pro supporters to respond with enormous 
>> contempt.
>>
>> I am inshallah ready to confront their matchless wickedness.
>>
>> Mostafa Almahdy.
>>
>>
>>
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