[Faith-talk] Israel and the global cowardice.

Thu Jul 17 13:21:38 UTC 2014

The reason why Americans aren't as familiar with international issues by and 
large is because we are both isolated and insulated from such things, unless 
our biased reporters deign to report such goings-on, of course from their 
perspectives and not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, 
as we say when we take an oath in a court of law in this country.  Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mostafa Almahdy via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Devin Prater" <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com>
Cc: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Israel and the global cowardice.


> Devin, that's absolutely correct.
>
> But, you must not  take for granted that most right-wing Protestant
> evangelists use these religious symbles to basically win political
> gains.
>
> Just as Muslim Brotherhood activists have done here, they used
> religious emotions when they were running for parliamentary  and
> presidential elections.
>
> Republicans  in the U.S are doing the same thing.
>
> It's wicked if either a Jew, a Christian, or a Muslim  uses religion
> to basically pursue for political interests.
>
> I hope that American laymen would pay more attention to global interests.
>
> I slightly observed that some Americans are a bit reticent  talking
> about international affairs.
>
> The world for American culture is a small and a smart village.
>
> Well, that's incorrect, and Americans still have a long journey to
> involve in the global culture, rather than forcing people to accept
> their culture as the common way of life, way of thinking, and way of
> seeing the world.
>
> Mostafa Almahdy, not anti-American, but certainly anti-globalization.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7/17/14, Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I think that, at least in theSouth of the US, the support of Israel is
>> mostly of religious reasons. Sure, Israel, in the old testament, was 
>> God's
>> "chosen people," or at least that's what I've grown up believing so 
>> correct
>> me if I'm wrong, but in the new testament, that chosenness has been given 
>> to
>> all who believe that Jesus is the savieur. But most Christians still hold 
>> to
>> the Jews as being God's people. So they blindly support Israel in all 
>> their
>> acts and just think about Canaan being Israel's and that Israel should 
>> have
>> it back and that Israel is God's chosen people and so what Israel is 
>> doing
>> is what they did in Joshua so God must sanctify it. That's how they 
>> think,
>> in my view anyway.
>> Devin Prater
>> r.d.t.prater at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Mostafa via Faith-talk 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Greetings.
>>>
>>> Couple of days ago, I critically expressed my vociferous  criticism to 
>>> the
>>> U.S unilateral  policy and the plain favoritism of Israel.
>>>
>>> In spite of the grave war crimes and this ruthless ethnic cleansing of
>>> Palestinians, American right-wing Protestant apologists responded to 
>>> that
>>> with insentient perception, insisting to consider this unprecedented
>>> brutality a licit motive of self-defence.
>>>
>>> I would like to send my unfeigned salutes to Paul for being a respectful
>>> Christian, and for speaking up against this barbarous subjection.
>>>
>>> Paul is a devout Christian, and he is not politically influenced.
>>>
>>> On the other hand, it is absolutely blasphemous on those so called
>>> ministers of God to obstinately defend this unambiguously perpetrated
>>> cruelty.
>>>
>>>      I know some pastors though who stubbornly support Israel and its
>>> savage hostility.
>>>
>>> I would not reveal their identity to guard their reputation, and also
>>> because it is a shameful disposition when it comes from a purportedly
>>> follower of  the divine.
>>>
>>>  I stridently repudiate this crimson, vicious and repugnant disposal.
>>>
>>> Egypt has proposed a cold truce and Hamas considered that a form of
>>> surrender.
>>>
>>> A cease-fire cannot be unilateral, it should have been a mutual
>>> agreement.
>>>
>>>       Israel is militarily equipped with a tremendous American aid, and 
>>> it
>>> has conspicuously  instigated ruinous  airstrikes on Gaza, murdering
>>> dozens of innocent civilians on a daily basis.
>>>
>>> Now what  right-wing protestant apologists are asking us to do?
>>>
>>> They want us to remain diffident and subservient to their magesty.
>>>
>>> What they call terrorist, we shall call terrorist.
>>>
>>> And what they call self-defence, it should have not of any offence.
>>>
>>>   I hold the  world and the security council accountable for mentally
>>> bearing Israel to further escalate its enormous inequity  and iniquity.
>>>
>>> Similarly, I unfeignedly reprobate Arab countries and Egypt for not
>>> complying to their religious and patriotic duty.
>>>
>>> Instead of savagely massacring each other for temporal gains, we should
>>> have stood by and defied with Palestinians against their cruel
>>> oppressors.
>>>
>>>  Simultaneously, the western world led by the United states of Zionism 
>>> is
>>> in a constant intimidation of Israel and its predominant dominance on
>>> their both political and economical sources.
>>>
>>> I believe as good people in both eastern and the western world, we have 
>>> to
>>> do something to decease this brutish carnage.
>>>
>>> I quite recognize that the western world and the U.S are filled with
>>> humanrights activists who certainly decline what Israel does.
>>>
>>>   But I do not want them to just watch.
>>>
>>> We are tired of humanrights watch, we rather want to see humanrights 
>>> act.
>>>
>>> I need to basically discern a credibility based on substantial actions 
>>> and
>>> even sanctions against Israel for its clear violation of humanrights
>>> principles, not just today, but even in multiple past incidents.
>>>
>>> In order to satisfactorily  respect western humanrights slogans and
>>> associations, I have to plainly notice something on the ground.
>>>
>>>  You just cannot respond with talks of peace to acts of aggression, that
>>> is quite absurd.
>>>
>>> Where is the global impact of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization?
>>>
>>> Why they cannot propose to  the U.N or the Security Council to banned
>>> Israel from their international assemblies until it respectfully complys
>>> to basic humanrights of Palestinians.
>>>
>>> I call all respectful countries and Egypt on the top to instantly expel
>>> Israel's ambassadors until they act with respect to basic humanrights.
>>>
>>> They have to decease random detentions, prison torture, persecution, and
>>> repeated airstrikes on civil targets.
>>>
>>> As a consequence, Hamas is obliged to decease discharging rocket 
>>> missiles
>>> on Israel southerns.
>>>
>>> The instigator is to cease first and then the retaliator follows.
>>>
>>> I apologize for this strident post.
>>>
>>> As usual, I expect Israel pro supporters to respond with enormous
>>> contempt.
>>>
>>> I am inshallah ready to confront their matchless wickedness.
>>>
>>> Mostafa Almahdy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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