[Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist subjection.

Mon Jul 21 18:41:19 UTC 2014

If a second is needed or encouraged, I second Brandon's comment.  Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>; "Faith-talk,for the 
discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist 
subjection.

RJ,

Perhaps you should act with a bit more respect. You’ve been nothing but mean 
and condescending in this thread.

Peace,
Brandon
On Jul 21, 2014, at 9:55 AM, RJ Sandefur via Faith-talk 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Stop trying to act like you're a college professor
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mostafa Almahdy via Faith-talk" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to 
> theZionist subjection.
>
>
> MR. Bear, I can barely bear your enormous nescience.
>
> This is also known as sophism.
>
> I will not respond to such fallacious allegations.
>
> I basically wanted you to scientifically verify the perfection of the
> biblical translation that you hold and regard as inerrant.
>
> I apologize for asking you to do this.
>
> It seams that I have asked for something far away from your humble 
> competency.
>
> I did not expect you to unintelligently extrapolate the scrutiny.
>
> Therefore, I attempted to remind you that we are particularly
> scrutinizing the authenticity of the transmission  of a sacred text
> called the Bible.
>
> This Bible is translated from languages that we cannot have access to
> in our contemporary age, these languages are basically extinct, or at
> least, they are unused by laymen people in our modern age.
>
> Jesus peace be upon him spoke Aramaic  and so his disciples did.
>
> But your English edition of the controversial parables is brought from
> Ancient Greek, whilst the Old Testament is brought from Ancient
> Hebrew, and they both are virtually nonextant, their manuscripts are
> not exposed to the public arena, unless for handful of specialized
> scholars.
>
> I am quite taken aback of your imbecilic induction.
>
> Without fallaciously attempting to malignly doubt my faith, nor
> attempting to indecisively assault me with insignificant allegations,
> I wholeheartedly encourage you to go and commence a thorough research
> on the subject.
>
> Of course, the word of God is inerrant and utterly perpetual.
>
> But, we are particularly talking about what God revealed, not about
> what people translated with their own additions, omissions, textual
> alteration and deliberate distortion of the text.
>
> As I just articulated, do not take my absurd statements as truthful,
> consider them as deceitful, conditionally with presenting your
> critical evidence.
>
> But I am afraid, ranting and personal assaults are not fit to do the job.
>
> Peace and blessings, Mostafa.
>
>
>
> On 7/20/14, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Mustafa, I was talking about the ability to gather accurately the
>> transmitted data from cultures throughout history in any field of study
>> related to a written text, that truth is still a reality regardless of
>> whether or not you like to pick and choose the best words of elocution to
>> try and prove your points. This was called sophistry in ancient days and 
>> I
>> think you have acquired a formidable ability to execute it in your
>> arguments. You do indeed dismiss anything that does not fit your argument
>> even if it is   valid, you will still take an arbitrary direction and 
>> avoid
>> the points of any person who responds to you. You keep fighting against 
>> the
>> Bible and making your various arguments, but I know that the living God 
>> is
>> able to defend his word just fine.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Mostafa
>> via Faith-talk
>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:38 AM
>> To: oilofgladness47 at gmail.com
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to the 
>> Zionist
>> subjection.
>>
>>
>> Greetings.
>>
>> It was immediately after my post that I have got ranging responses, from
>> considering my scrutiny irrelevant to inconsistently comparing sacred
>> translations with the constant transmission of terrestrial disciplines 
>> such
>> as Astronomy, Ecology, Mathematics, and other related scientific 
>> branches.
>>
>> The one who incorrectly posed this inconsistent analogy should have known
>> that physical science is the study of the physical and natural world 
>> using
>> theoretical models and data from experiments or observation.
>>
>> But sacred text is not based on that.
>>
>> Sacred text is based on divine legitimacy and reliability.
>>
>> Furthermore, physical science is temporal, and it constantly evolves as 
>> new
>> discovery and scientific developments unfold.
>>
>> Whilst in addition, sacred text is unaltered, it is not edited, motified,
>> nor even recontextualized.
>>
>>   I reserve the right to criticize any form of belief, as long as I am
>> devoting my arguments to enlightening propositions, and that does not 
>> mean
>> I
>> am doubtful of my faith, it is basically preposterous for someone to 
>> think
>> so.
>>
>> Well, someone is certainly pitiful enough to delude himself with such
>> miserably absurd illusions.
>>
>>           Now, we are back again to verbally defy the plain obstinacy of
>> guarding aggression and transgression.
>>
>> The Constitution of the United States is the most honorable constitution 
>> in
>> the world.
>>
>> It strictly prohibits ethnic cleansing, mass murder, suppression,
>> subjection
>> and military strikes on civil targets.
>>
>> I am not flattering Americans though, I am basically uttering the truth.
>>
>> I distinctly honor and respect the humanrights principles which the U.S
>> Constitution strongly affirms and it is based on that.
>>
>> The U.S constitution recognizes people equal before the supreme law, and 
>> it
>> does not opt anyone on either racial, ethnic or religious superiority
>> complex.
>>
>>   Well unfortunately, there are some minors who considers themselves 
>> crème
>> de la crème, they consider themselves eminent, even beyond the
>> constitutional principles, and they think that an insect in New York is
>> worthful than a human being in Gaza.
>>
>> Those who devote themselves to such abominable attitude are not humans,
>> although they look like humans, but they think and act like devilish
>> species.
>>
>> They viciously belong to  mephistophelean species because of their 
>> radical
>> arrogance and cruelty.
>>
>> I emphasize again as I have done many times before, Original sin in Islam
>> is
>> not reprobating Adam and Eve for eating from the forbidden tree, it is
>> rather acting in pride and arrogance.
>>
>> This is the resentment  of Lucifer who is the chief adversary  of 
>> cynicism.
>>
>> He is demonized to eternal damnation because of his radical arrogance and
>> bigotry.
>>
>>   Pro Israel supporters and their allies consider themselves the highest
>> of
>> high, the chosen people, the children of God, and therefore, anyone who
>> opposes them is not a human, and he is worth it for a shoot.
>>
>> We will never bow down to their oppressive authority, defiance should
>> persist, and we ultimately shall prevail.
>>
>> I will make sure to pass my defying sentiment to a broader scale, so we
>> will
>> uninterruptedly pressure on Israel and its pro allies on international
>> scope, until we force them to decease using the force to bow Palestinians
>> down.
>>
>> As President Anwar el-Sadat said;
>>
>> "What was taken by force is never regained by rather than force".
>>
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>
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