[Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist subjection.

Mon Jul 21 18:45:29 UTC 2014

I do as well. 

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From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Paul
via Faith-talk
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:41 PM
To: Brandon A. Olivares; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and
religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist
subjection.

If a second is needed or encouraged, I second Brandon's comment.  Paul
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>; "Faith-talk,for the
discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation totheZionist
subjection.

RJ,

Perhaps you should act with a bit more respect. You’ve been nothing but mean
and condescending in this thread.

Peace,
Brandon
On Jul 21, 2014, at 9:55 AM, RJ Sandefur via Faith-talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Stop trying to act like you're a college professor
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mostafa Almahdy via Faith-talk" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to 
> theZionist subjection.
>
>
> MR. Bear, I can barely bear your enormous nescience.
>
> This is also known as sophism.
>
> I will not respond to such fallacious allegations.
>
> I basically wanted you to scientifically verify the perfection of the 
> biblical translation that you hold and regard as inerrant.
>
> I apologize for asking you to do this.
>
> It seams that I have asked for something far away from your humble 
> competency.
>
> I did not expect you to unintelligently extrapolate the scrutiny.
>
> Therefore, I attempted to remind you that we are particularly 
> scrutinizing the authenticity of the transmission  of a sacred text 
> called the Bible.
>
> This Bible is translated from languages that we cannot have access to 
> in our contemporary age, these languages are basically extinct, or at 
> least, they are unused by laymen people in our modern age.
>
> Jesus peace be upon him spoke Aramaic  and so his disciples did.
>
> But your English edition of the controversial parables is brought from 
> Ancient Greek, whilst the Old Testament is brought from Ancient 
> Hebrew, and they both are virtually nonextant, their manuscripts are 
> not exposed to the public arena, unless for handful of specialized 
> scholars.
>
> I am quite taken aback of your imbecilic induction.
>
> Without fallaciously attempting to malignly doubt my faith, nor 
> attempting to indecisively assault me with insignificant allegations, 
> I wholeheartedly encourage you to go and commence a thorough research 
> on the subject.
>
> Of course, the word of God is inerrant and utterly perpetual.
>
> But, we are particularly talking about what God revealed, not about 
> what people translated with their own additions, omissions, textual 
> alteration and deliberate distortion of the text.
>
> As I just articulated, do not take my absurd statements as truthful, 
> consider them as deceitful, conditionally with presenting your 
> critical evidence.
>
> But I am afraid, ranting and personal assaults are not fit to do the job.
>
> Peace and blessings, Mostafa.
>
>
>
> On 7/20/14, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Mustafa, I was talking about the ability to gather accurately 
>> the transmitted data from cultures throughout history in any field of 
>> study related to a written text, that truth is still a reality 
>> regardless of whether or not you like to pick and choose the best 
>> words of elocution to try and prove your points. This was called 
>> sophistry in ancient days and I think you have acquired a formidable 
>> ability to execute it in your arguments. You do indeed dismiss 
>> anything that does not fit your argument
>> even if it is   valid, you will still take an arbitrary direction and 
>> avoid
>> the points of any person who responds to you. You keep fighting 
>> against the Bible and making your various arguments, but I know that 
>> the living God is able to defend his word just fine.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mostafa via Faith-talk
>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:38 AM
>> To: oilofgladness47 at gmail.com
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to the 
>> Zionist subjection.
>>
>>
>> Greetings.
>>
>> It was immediately after my post that I have got ranging responses, 
>> from considering my scrutiny irrelevant to inconsistently comparing 
>> sacred translations with the constant transmission of terrestrial 
>> disciplines such as Astronomy, Ecology, Mathematics, and other 
>> related scientific branches.
>>
>> The one who incorrectly posed this inconsistent analogy should have 
>> known that physical science is the study of the physical and natural 
>> world using theoretical models and data from experiments or 
>> observation.
>>
>> But sacred text is not based on that.
>>
>> Sacred text is based on divine legitimacy and reliability.
>>
>> Furthermore, physical science is temporal, and it constantly evolves 
>> as new discovery and scientific developments unfold.
>>
>> Whilst in addition, sacred text is unaltered, it is not edited, 
>> motified, nor even recontextualized.
>>
>>   I reserve the right to criticize any form of belief, as long as I 
>> am devoting my arguments to enlightening propositions, and that does 
>> not mean I am doubtful of my faith, it is basically preposterous for 
>> someone to think so.
>>
>> Well, someone is certainly pitiful enough to delude himself with such 
>> miserably absurd illusions.
>>
>>           Now, we are back again to verbally defy the plain obstinacy 
>> of guarding aggression and transgression.
>>
>> The Constitution of the United States is the most honorable 
>> constitution in the world.
>>
>> It strictly prohibits ethnic cleansing, mass murder, suppression, 
>> subjection and military strikes on civil targets.
>>
>> I am not flattering Americans though, I am basically uttering the truth.
>>
>> I distinctly honor and respect the humanrights principles which the 
>> U.S Constitution strongly affirms and it is based on that.
>>
>> The U.S constitution recognizes people equal before the supreme law, 
>> and it does not opt anyone on either racial, ethnic or religious 
>> superiority complex.
>>
>>   Well unfortunately, there are some minors who considers themselves 
>> crème de la crème, they consider themselves eminent, even beyond the 
>> constitutional principles, and they think that an insect in New York 
>> is worthful than a human being in Gaza.
>>
>> Those who devote themselves to such abominable attitude are not 
>> humans, although they look like humans, but they think and act like 
>> devilish species.
>>
>> They viciously belong to  mephistophelean species because of their 
>> radical arrogance and cruelty.
>>
>> I emphasize again as I have done many times before, Original sin in 
>> Islam is not reprobating Adam and Eve for eating from the forbidden 
>> tree, it is rather acting in pride and arrogance.
>>
>> This is the resentment  of Lucifer who is the chief adversary  of 
>> cynicism.
>>
>> He is demonized to eternal damnation because of his radical arrogance 
>> and bigotry.
>>
>>   Pro Israel supporters and their allies consider themselves the 
>> highest of high, the chosen people, the children of God, and 
>> therefore, anyone who opposes them is not a human, and he is worth it 
>> for a shoot.
>>
>> We will never bow down to their oppressive authority, defiance should 
>> persist, and we ultimately shall prevail.
>>
>> I will make sure to pass my defying sentiment to a broader scale, so 
>> we will uninterruptedly pressure on Israel and its pro allies on 
>> international scope, until we force them to decease using the force 
>> to bow Palestinians down.
>>
>> As President Anwar el-Sadat said;
>>
>> "What was taken by force is never regained by rather than force".
>>
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