[Faith-talk] Following up the responses to my post about the Trinity, and a Skype invitation to be engaged on a live discussion.

[Mostafa]

Dear all, peace be with you.

I hope you  are doing well.

This is a continuity to the responses regarding my previous post about the Trinity.

I read all of them.

I unfeignedly  honour Christians when they attempt to defend their doctrine, and of course, they reserve the total right to do so.

But trust me, it introduced nothing new to me.

I am already aware of the contention that strives to vindicate the Trinitarian adherence. 

I would like to apologize if my post was abrasive.

Christians claimed that I did not comprehend the Trinity.

Well that is terrifically inaccurate.

At the beginning of my former post, I concisely outlined the Trinity.

It is the belief that God is equally represented in the three characters of the godhead.

It is the triune being of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit unified together.

That is the Trinity.

Here is the definition of the Trinity precisely quoted from the Catholic encyclopedia.

"The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion, the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another. 

Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed; the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God."

This is the definition of the Trinity directly taken from the Catholic encyclopedia.

You can check it out.

Just type on Google; the definition of the Trinity in the Catholic encyclopedia.

For us as Muslims, God is eternal and immutable.

Nothing is comparable to him, whilst the Trinity has constantly been likened to physical objects.

The Trinity is similar to the man, consists of the mind, body and soul.

Well thank you for that clarification.

But I want to draw your attention to something.

I am afraid but, your equivalence has a plain shortage.

The Trinity is God as equally represented in three distinct characters, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

These according to the definition of the Catholic encyclopedia are three persons.

I am afraid but your example of the mind, body and soul is not sufficiently delineated.

Well how so?

Just pay attention to what comes below.

You said that the Trinity consists of  the father, the son, and the holy spirit, it is compared to the mind, body, and soul.

Is that correct?

Well, I am afraid sir, but your logic is definitely missing your point.

How so?

What are the father, the son, and the holy spirit?

That is excellent, three persons.

And what are the mind, body and soul?

Well indeed, they are three different factors for a one single being.

Whilst the father, the son, and the holy spirit are three different beings.

So how come you compare the three different factors that are made to constitute a one single being with three different beings.

Does that make sense?

     This is a logical faultline which Christians ought to think of.

I am afraid but your example has predominantly missed the two basic premisses and thus, your conclusion is utterly undetermined.

  In order to derive a thorough conclusion, you initially ought to establish the two basic premisses correctly.

Subsequently, I critically encourage the Christian to reconsider the consistency of his argument.

I can show you an alternative instance to analogize for the Trinity.

You need to think of three persons and how you can make them fit in a one single being.

Show me with the genuinely established logical order how you can make three different individuals fit in a one single entity.

The Trinity says three persons and thus, you need to think of an identical instance to compare.

Three persons cannot go with three factors, that is illogical.

You cannot prove your case without founding the rectified premisses which are made to establish the correct logic.

You can have an opinion but that opinion has to be essentially based on  rational arguments.

Theoretically, you can say whatever you want to say.

But rationally, you ought to follow the sequential arrangement of the logical statement.

So for instance, all cattles are eating grass.

Cows are cattles.

So cows are eating grass.

  The first assertion represents the primary premiss.

The second assertion represents the secondary premiss.

And ultimately, you derive the rational conclusion.

This is how logic works sir.
Finally, I invite all of you to participate in a live discussion regarding the Trinity.

I warmly welcome all of you to join.

The live discussion will make everything much clearer.

I will not respond to any rebuttals here.

The place to proceed that discussion is on Skype.

If you are interested to participate, please write me with a list of suitable times, so we can schedule a mutual appointment to meet.

  It would be my distinctive fete to meet all of you.

As I just declared, the discussion will focus on the Trinity as the main subject.

Saturday is the nearest suitable date for me.

If that suits any of you, please let me know, so we can schedule the proper time to meet next Saturday.

I am the one who is opposed, and I proposed.

Peace be with you.