[Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs

Thu May 15 23:28:56 UTC 2014

Hi Brandon,

The Muslim you and Justin refer to posts to the list, but doesn't 
engage in any discussion. When someone here responds to him, he never 
acknowledges it, or makes a comment. So, it seems that he is only 
wanting to expose us to his religion, and have no dialog. I'm glad, 
though, that he dialogs with some off list. He never did with me, so 
I stopped responding to him on and off list.

Blessings,

Linda

At 04:37 PM 5/15/2014, you wrote:
>I've also heard a story like that. The truth is that I do use this 
>philosophy in my day-to-day life. I used to have very chronic 
>anxiety. However, having this attitude has slashed that anxiety 
>nearly completely, when before I was considering medication. So I 
>cannot accept your premise that it is impractical.
>
>Yes, many people preach this kind of philosophy without really 
>following it themselves. But that does not invalidate the belief 
>itself. Are there not Christians who preach love and selflessness, 
>but in their day-to-day lives are selfish and show no love? Yet I 
>would not say that this invalidates the entire religion.
>
>Self-preservation is a natural response of the body. To one who has 
>truly realized the Self, they might have no preference of life or 
>death, but still if a car is about to hit them, the body will of its 
>own accord jump out of the way. If you touch a hot stove, you will 
>pull your hand back. This is the natural flow of nature, regardless 
>of your beliefs.
>
>What I find interesting is that there is a Muslim who posts his 
>beliefs daily unchallenged, yet I posted concerning my own beliefs 
>to see if they are shared by any, and have met nearly universal 
>challenge with few exceptions, and was told that anyone like me 
>would be burned forever. Just interesting to notice. :)
>
>Brandon
>On May 15, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Some of this logic cuts itself off at the feet and only goes so far. There
> > is a story about an  Indian man who argued that we were all nothing as he
> > taught a body of seekers, his argument was quite convincing. After the
> > discussion when he went out and walked across a field a bull started to
> > charge him and he started to run. One of the people at his talk yelled to
> > him, "You don't need to run, the bull is really not there and pain is only
> > in your mind." That is a belief than can go no further than the mind in my
> > opinion, because once we step into the real world, we are faced 
> with choices
> > that we put our minds to almost every minute. If you said, "I need to go to
> > the bathroom", and I said, that is simply a feeling that is not real, then
> > you may think that this philosophy has felled in one small point. But if it
> > works for you, then only you know how it fits your way of 
> thinking and if it
> > is an honest approach to your daily activity, or if you have to separate
>
> > your beliefs from your real life.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Brandon
> > Olivares via Faith-talk
> > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:10 PM
> > To: Linda Mentink; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs
> >
> > I love to question. In my experience, nothing is true.
> > On May 15, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-talk
> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> And God says in His Word, the Bible, that he resisteth the proud, but
> > gives grace to the humble. Of course, it's fine to question many 
> things, but
> > not the Bible and your faith in God, if you have such. If you don't, that's
> > good reason to question your beliefs.
> >>
> >> Blessings,
> >>
> >> Linda
> >>
> >> At 02:37 PM 5/15/2014, you wrote:
> >>> I think that questions can be good, but as a father of 7, I do find that
> >>> when my children are able to listen without questioning everything I ask
> > of
> >>> them it brings a trust, an intimacy that is sometimes tattered by the
> > twenty
> >>> questions. As for me, being married, I will often do something for my
> > wife
> >>> simply because she asks me, I may think that it is silly, may want to
> >>> question her reasons, needs and all that, but simply doing, or obeying
>
> > does
> >>> more to create the bond of love and trust that I think a marriage is
> > built
> >>> on than being a analytical owl about everything. Also, we will often
> > pride
> >>> ourselves on asking questions about something like faith, something that
> >>> demands a real commitment from us, but we will often swallow whole the
>
> >>> garbage in our culture, imitating much of it, desiring much of it, or
> >>> prematurely condemning it. Interesting stuff.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kirt
> >>> via Faith-talk
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:26 AM
> >>> To: sheila; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs
> >>>
> >>> :-) I, for one, take pride in questioning everything. Even my questions.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On May 15, 2014, at 12:38 PM, sheila via Faith-talk
> >>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> hi Linda I am in complete agreement and am not interested in
> > questioning
> >>> my beliefs. They are based on the  word of god.
> >>>>> On 5/15/2014 10:15 AM, Linda Mentink via Faith-talk wrote:
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do not question my beliefs, not since Christ came to live in me. The
> >>> Bible is my Guide for life. I receive many things from it, including
> >>> comfort, wisdom, assurance that I will spend eternity in heaven, and
> >>> knowledge of the Triune God.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Those who say they have accepted Christ as their personal Saviour, and
> >>> still continue to lie, cheat and steal, put too much emphasis on what
> > they
> >>> did. They have not repented of these sins, and, consequently, their
> >>> conversion is not real.
> >>>>> True Christians abhor sin, and, with God's help, do their best to live
> > a
> >>> different life than they did before Christ came to live in them. When
> > they
> >>> do sin, which all do, they are sorry, and ask God's forgiveness; and, if
> >>> necessary, and they have sinned against someone, they ask forgiveness of
> >>> that person. Many who think they are Christians will be surprised when
>
> > they
> >>> meet God, and are turned away from Him to spend eternity in hell with
> > Satan
> >>> and his demons.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Christianity has been around since the beginning of creation. Those
> > who
> >>> take God at His Word, and accept the free grace and forgiveness He
> > offers,
> >>> will spend their life after earthly death in eternity in Heaven with Him.
> >>> Eastern religions and cults are man-made, and were made up not that long
> > ago
> >>> by people who rejected God, didn't know about Him, or wanted to do things
> >>> their own way--which, I guess, is the same as rejecting God.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am sad for those who believe such nonsense, because their end, no
> >>> matter what they say, will be condemnation to the lake of fire, where no
> >>> relief will be had.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't mean to be harsh or offensive, but that's what the Bible says
> >>> concerning them, and I believe the Bible to be true. It is the inspired
> > Word
> >>> of God. All it says will come to pass, if it hasn't already.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will not question my beliefs, but will continue to stand on what I
>
> > know
> >>> to be true in the Bible.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Blessings,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Linda
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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