[Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs

Thu May 15 23:32:39 UTC 2014

Brandon,

I know you are talking about me, and I am not publicly condemning you 
or anyone who does not believe as I do. I just state what the Bible 
says, so God and His Word condemn you.

Blessings,

Linda

At 04:43 PM 5/15/2014, you wrote:
>Yes, this is exactly how I feel as well. As I said before, I think 
>diversity is a great thing. I will never deny the freedom of a 
>person to be whatever religion he likes. But it seems to me that 
>some of the Christians on this list are publicly denouncing and 
>condemning anyone who thinks differently, on a list that is for 
>people of all faiths.
>
>Thanks for your input. :)
>
>Brandon
>On May 15, 2014, at 5:23 PM, justin williams via Faith-talk 
><faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> > Are you folks arguing or something; It sounds like Brandon tried to explain
> > his belief system on a list which was supposed to be one shared by all
> > faiths. The Christians have expressed their faith over and over,  slapped
> > each other on the back and a mened ever sense I've been on this list.  Oh,
> > and you have also piled onto anyone else who is not saying the exact same
> > things you espouse.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Poppa
> > Bear via Faith-talk
> > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 5:10 PM
> > To: 'Brandon Olivares'; 'Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and
> > religion'
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs
> >
> > Some of this logic cuts itself off at the feet and only goes so far. There
> > is a story about an  Indian man who argued that we were all nothing as he
> > taught a body of seekers, his argument was quite convincing. After the
> > discussion when he went out and walked across a field a bull started to
> > charge him and he started to run. One of the people at his talk yelled to
> > him, "You don't need to run, the bull is really not there and pain is only
> > in your mind." That is a belief than can go no further than the mind in my
> > opinion, because once we step into the real world, we are faced 
> with choices
> > that we put our minds to almost every minute. If you said, "I need to go to
> > the bathroom", and I said, that is simply a feeling that is not real, then
> > you may think that this philosophy has felled in one small point. But if it
> > works for you, then only you know how it fits your way of 
> thinking and if it
> > is an honest approach to your daily activity, or if you have to separate
> > your beliefs from your real life.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of Brandon
> > Olivares via Faith-talk
> > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:10 PM
> > To: Linda Mentink; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs
> >
> > I love to question. In my experience, nothing is true.
> > On May 15, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-talk
> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> And God says in His Word, the Bible, that he resisteth the proud, but
> > gives grace to the humble. Of course, it's fine to question many 
> things, but
> > not the Bible and your faith in God, if you have such. If you don't, that's
> > good reason to question your beliefs.
> >>
> >> Blessings,
> >>
> >> Linda
> >>
> >> At 02:37 PM 5/15/2014, you wrote:
> >>> I think that questions can be good, but as a father of 7, I do find
> >>> that when my children are able to listen without questioning
> >>> everything I ask
> > of
> >>> them it brings a trust, an intimacy that is sometimes tattered by the
> > twenty
> >>> questions. As for me, being married, I will often do something for my
> > wife
> >>> simply because she asks me, I may think that it is silly, may want to
> >>> question her reasons, needs and all that, but simply doing, or
> >>> obeying
> > does
> >>> more to create the bond of love and trust that I think a marriage is
> > built
> >>> on than being a analytical owl about everything. Also, we will often
> > pride
> >>> ourselves on asking questions about something like faith, something
> >>> that demands a real commitment from us, but we will often swallow
> >>> whole the garbage in our culture, imitating much of it, desiring much
> >>> of it, or prematurely condemning it. Interesting stuff.
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> Kirt via Faith-talk
> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 11:26 AM
> >>> To: sheila; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Questioning Our Beliefs
> >>>
> >>> :-) I, for one, take pride in questioning everything. Even my questions.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On May 15, 2014, at 12:38 PM, sheila via Faith-talk
> >>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> hi Linda I am in complete agreement and am not interested in
> > questioning
> >>> my beliefs. They are based on the  word of god.
> >>>>> On 5/15/2014 10:15 AM, Linda Mentink via Faith-talk wrote:
> >>>>> Hi all,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I do not question my beliefs, not since Christ came to live in me.
> >>>>> The
> >>> Bible is my Guide for life. I receive many things from it, including
> >>> comfort, wisdom, assurance that I will spend eternity in heaven, and
> >>> knowledge of the Triune God.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Those who say they have accepted Christ as their personal Saviour,
> >>>>> and
> >>> still continue to lie, cheat and steal, put too much emphasis on what
> > they
> >>> did. They have not repented of these sins, and, consequently, their
> >>> conversion is not real.
> >>>>> True Christians abhor sin, and, with God's help, do their best to
> >>>>> live
> > a
> >>> different life than they did before Christ came to live in them. When
> > they
> >>> do sin, which all do, they are sorry, and ask God's forgiveness; and,
> >>> if necessary, and they have sinned against someone, they ask
> >>> forgiveness of that person. Many who think they are Christians will
> >>> be surprised when
> > they
> >>> meet God, and are turned away from Him to spend eternity in hell with
> > Satan
> >>> and his demons.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Christianity has been around since the beginning of creation.
> >>>>> Those
> > who
> >>> take God at His Word, and accept the free grace and forgiveness He
> > offers,
> >>> will spend their life after earthly death in eternity in Heaven with Him.
> >>> Eastern religions and cults are man-made, and were made up not that
> >>> long
> > ago
> >>> by people who rejected God, didn't know about Him, or wanted to do
> >>> things their own way--which, I guess, is the same as rejecting God.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am sad for those who believe such nonsense, because their end,
> >>>>> no
> >>> matter what they say, will be condemnation to the lake of fire, where
> >>> no relief will be had.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't mean to be harsh or offensive, but that's what the Bible
> >>>>> says
> >>> concerning them, and I believe the Bible to be true. It is the
> >>> inspired
> > Word
> >>> of God. All it says will come to pass, if it hasn't already.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will not question my beliefs, but will continue to stand on what
> >>>>> I
> > know
> >>> to be true in the Bible.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Blessings,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Linda
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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