[Faith-talk] Don't Love; Be Love

Thu May 22 20:11:58 UTC 2014

Good stuff Paul. I would like to hear your thoughts more often on some of
these kinds of things. I do admire both your wisdom and caution as well.

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Brandon, this was an excellent though short post about the subject of love. 
Let me weigh in on this subject, as humble and unscholarly as it will be.

First of all, many people in our world today get "love" and "Like" mixed up.

I would dare say that, most of the time, when many people say "I love You," 
they really mean "I like you." Perhaps a good illustration of what I mean is
the occasional personal get-together at a picnic, ice-cream social or
perhaps going out to dinner or for a walk instead of planning a particular
meeting at a particular time of day or day of the week.  Does your
acquaintance/friend really love you or are they just saying those words to
make you feel good?

Secondly, there are four words in the New Testament for love.  There is
"eros," from which we get the word "erotic." Then there is "Phyllia," or
brotherly love between two people, either of both sexes or of the same sex,
without sexual activity.  Then there is "storgi," which I don't understand
and finally, the highest form of love is "agape," (pronounced ah-ga-pay),
the love that is unconditional and self-sacrificing.  There is a related
word that, in Greek doesn't mean "love" in the strictest sense, but is
closely tied to it.  That word is "koinonia," translated in most English
Bibles as "fellowship." Anyone here who is him/herself a Greek New Testament
scholar will tell you that this word "koinonia" goes much deeper than the
mere word "fellowship."  It means that everyone in a particular Christian
community or church is deeply and sincerely interested in all aspects of
everyone's life, being physical, emotional, financial or maybe even
psychological.  Perhaps in some places this may border on gossip, but I
would hope not.

There is a word in Esperanto which defines this word "koinonia" better than
any word I can come up with.  It is the word "samideano," a word whose
meaning has to be experienced to understand its authenticity rather than
looking in the dictionary.  That word is "samideaneco." That word means an
abstract quality of being a member of the same idea.  Maybe this word is
"over the head" of most of you, but you who are yourselves bilingual or
multilingual will understand when I say that there are words in another
language that simply can't be translated accurately into English.

Well, this response has gone on longer than I would like, but I hope that I
was able to add something to the discussion without sounding to academic,
something that I'm really not, as I was never a student at a university. 
Paul
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Dear all,

I have some thoughts on love that I would like to post. I would appreciate
open discussion on the matter.

What is Love?

Love is the force that holds all creation together. Without Love, the
universe would fly apart.

We experience this in daily life. When you love someone, you want to be
around them. You want to be with them in every way possible.

But this love is not sufficient, because it has conditions. When you get
angry or upset at a person you love, you are showing the conditions of your
love. It means they aren't truly free to be who they may be, because human
love has conditions.

We all hear that we should love. Love seems to be a doing- something we have
to strive for. We make an effort to love everyone.

But it's impossible. Love is not a doing. It is not something you add to
yourself and suddenly you have the quality of love. It is not something you
can develop.

Instead, you must realize that you are Love. Love is your very nature. It is
simply clouded over by your egoic judgments- your attempt to do. Instead it
is an act of undoing. It is an act of letting go of everything that is not
Love. Once all things are undone, Love will remain, and you will live out
Love perfectly in the world. It is more correct to say that you will be
lived by Love in the world. There is nothing to fight; there is nothing to
resist.

Then you will love perfectly, without condition. No one could possibly do
anything to make you love them more or less, because your love does not
depend on them. It depends on living out your own nature. This Love is
all-embracing, all-consuming. It changes lover and loved alike.

In 1 Corinthians 13, Paul says that the most important attribute is Love,
and that it will never fail. John says God is Love. It will never fail
because it is what we are.

Paul also says in verse 12 of the same chapter, "For now we see only a
reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face." Ah, how true. We
see a reflection now because ego is in the way. All we can see in the world
are projections of ego, which actually block out Love. When those
projections are healed, then we will see "face-to-face," the actual reality
of things, as it were. And the actual reality of things is perfect Love.

--
Brandon

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