[Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two

Sun Oct 19 00:48:42 UTC 2014

Hi all! Halloween is the eve of the Celtic new year. Quite different than our new year. 
Kendra 

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> On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:27 PM, justin williams via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> What?  Okay R J, I'm super confused. You've lost me completely. What does
> Halloween and New Years Eve have to do with each other?
> 
> 
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> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of RJ
> Sandefur via Faith-talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 8:24 PM
> To: Kendra Schafer; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two
> 
> Kendra, Halloween is new years eve. RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kendra Schafer via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Andrew" <andrewjedg at gmail.com>; "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith
> and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 7:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two
> 
> 
>> Hi all!
>> That is an interesting question! It's like asking a Pagan who 
>> celebrates Easter the same question. I think that what Holliday a 
>> person choses to celebrates is up to them to decide. I have celebrated 
>> Christmas, Easter and Halloween for my whole life. Yes, even before I 
>> knew what a Pagan or a Christian was. I still celebrate those 
>> hollidays along with the other Pagan and American hollidays. Most of 
>> my Christian friends celebrate Halloween even though they call it 
>> Harvist instead. One Christian friend won't celebrate Halloween but 
>> she does celebrate the equanoxes and solstices. One friend will celebrate
> the seasons when we see each other.
>> With all of that said, recognize what Halloween stands for and respect 
>> those who celebrate Halloween. Pagans have celebrated the seasons for 
>> melenia in many different ways. We even tought the Christians how to 
>> party. Look at the history of Christmas and Easter. They both have 
>> strong Pagan roots. Many Pagans still celebrate Easter, Christmas and
> Halloween.
>> Kendra
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Andrew via Faith-talk 
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Halloween - Part 1 of 2
>>> 
>>> Should Christians celebrate Halloween? No! What the world will 
>>> celebrate on October 31 is not anything that a Christian should be 
>>> part of. The origin of what we know of as Halloween began in 5th 
>>> century B.C., Celtic Ireland as a holiday marking the end of summer 
>>> on October 31 known as Samhein (sow-en).
>>> 
>>> The pagan Celts believed on that day, the disembodied spirits of all 
>>> those who had died throughout the preceding year would come back in 
>>> search of living bodies to possess for the next year. It was believed 
>>> to be their only hope for the afterlife. The Celts believed all laws 
>>> of space and time were suspended during this time, allowing the 
>>> spirit world to intermingle with the living.
>>> 
>>> Naturally, the still living did not want to be possessed. So on the 
>>> night of October 31, villagers would extinguish the fires in their 
>>> homes, to make them cold and undesirable. They would then dress up in 
>>> all manner of ghoulish costumes and noisily paraded around the 
>>> neighborhood, being as destructive as possible in order to frighten 
>>> away spirits looking for bodies to possess.
>>> 
>>> The Romans adopted the Celtic practices as their own. But in the 
>>> first century A.D., Samhain was assimilated into celebrations of some 
>>> of the other Roman traditions that took place in October, such as 
>>> their day to honor Pomona, the Roman goddess of fruit and trees. The 
>>> symbol of Pomona is the apple, which might explain the origin of our 
>>> modern tradition of bobbing for apples on Halloween. The thrust of 
>>> the practices also changed over time to become more ritualized. As 
>>> belief in spirit possession waned, the practice of dressing up like 
>>> hobgoblins, ghosts, and witches took on a more ceremonial role.
>>> 
>>> The custom of Halloween was brought to America in the 1840's by Irish 
>>> immigrants fleeing their country's potato famine. At that time, the 
>>> favorite pranks in New England included tipping over outhouses and 
>>> unhinging fence gates.
>>> 
>>> Since the eighth century, the Catholic Church has celebrated All 
>>> Saints' Day on November 1 to celebrate the known and unknown Saints 
>>> whom the Church has canonized. The night before the celebration of 
>>> All Saint's Day is known as All Hallow's Eve ("Hallows" mean "saints" 
>>> both mean "holy ones" as in "Hallowed be thy name"). So, Halloween 
>>> means "the evening before All Saint's Day."
>>> 
>>> You can see from the pagan roots of Halloween why this has become the 
>>> most important day to those who worship satan or choose to live in 
>>> rebellion to God and the TRUTH of His Word. There is NOTHING about 
>>> this day that honors God, remembers God, or has anything to do at all 
>>> with God. It is, quite honestly, a celebration of those who oppose 
>>> God and all that He stands for. THIS is why it's a day Christians 
>>> should NOT celebrate nor be part of in any way.
>>> 
>>> I love you and care about you so much. Tomorrow, Part Two of this 
>>> series is titled, "A Christian's Response to Halloween." Do we hide 
>>> in our homes with the lights off? Do we all go to church and hide in 
>>> the basement so the devil doesn't get us? What exactly should a 
>>> Christian be doing on Halloween? I will give you a hint. It will be a 
>>> bold call to action. I can think of no better night to see souls won 
>>> for Christ than on Halloween.
>>> 
>>> DO NOT MISS PART TWO TOMORROW AS WE CELEBRATE A NEW HOLIDAY ON 
>>> OCTOBER 31ST THAT WILL HONOR JESUS CHRIST, THE KING OF KINGS, AND 
>>> LORD OF LORDS!!!
>>> 
>>> In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
>>> 
>>> Bill Keller
>>> 
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