[Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two

Sun Oct 19 02:44:57 UTC 2014

Hi all! 
That's why I try to be as fair as possible when I write here. I know that this list is not only for Christians or any other single religion. I have shown that all day in this thread. 
Kendra 

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> On Oct 18, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Donna Elliott via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Does anyone else miss when this list was about faith rather than disagreements?  Donna
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:23 PM, Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Not sure what you mean by “supposed”. The Christmas tree is a Pagan symbol. No debating that. What you think about that fact is the only question.
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:56 PM, qubit via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Excuse me, but you sound like the people who quote some supposed history of 
>>> the Christmas tree as a pagan symbol.  I think while some people gravitate 
>>> toward ghoulish costumes on halloween, I thinkthe majority dress up like 
>>> anything or anyone they want just for something entertaining to do.  For 
>>> example, I saw a tv reporter ask a policeman in NY whose idea it was for him 
>>> to dress up like a policeman for halloween...He laughed and said my boss".
>>> I had a friend dress like a giant crayon.  I I have dressed like a lot of 
>>> things just for fun.
>>> I am not a satan worshipper.  I think that is kind of creepy.  But lots of 
>>> Christians have fun dressing up and eating treats on halloween.  The only 
>>> complaint I have is that it has the word "hallow" in the word, which implies 
>>> something holy, which it is not.
>>> Is someone going to bite me for having pleasant childhood memories of 
>>> halloween?
>>> --le
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Andrew via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Faith-talk" <Faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:24 PM
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Halloween - Part 1 of 2
>>> 
>>> Should Christians celebrate Halloween? No! What the world will
>>> celebrate on October 31 is not anything that a Christian should be
>>> part of. The origin of what we know of as Halloween began in 5th
>>> century B.C., Celtic Ireland as a holiday marking the end of summer on
>>> October 31 known as Samhein (sow-en).
>>> 
>>> The pagan Celts believed on that day, the disembodied spirits of all
>>> those who had died throughout the preceding year would come back in
>>> search of living bodies to possess for the next year. It was believed
>>> to be their only hope for the afterlife. The Celts believed all laws
>>> of space and time were suspended during this time, allowing the spirit
>>> world to intermingle with the living.
>>> 
>>> Naturally, the still living did not want to be possessed. So on the
>>> night of October 31, villagers would extinguish the fires in their
>>> homes, to make them cold and undesirable. They would then dress up in
>>> all manner of ghoulish costumes and noisily paraded around the
>>> neighborhood, being as destructive as possible in order to frighten
>>> away spirits looking for bodies to possess.
>>> 
>>> The Romans adopted the Celtic practices as their own. But in the
>>> first century A.D., Samhain was assimilated into celebrations of some
>>> of the other Roman traditions that took place in October, such as
>>> their day to honor Pomona, the Roman goddess of fruit and trees. The
>>> symbol of Pomona is the apple, which might explain the origin of our
>>> modern tradition of bobbing for apples on Halloween. The thrust of the
>>> practices also changed over time to become more ritualized. As belief
>>> in spirit possession waned, the practice of dressing up like
>>> hobgoblins, ghosts, and witches took on a more ceremonial role.
>>> 
>>> The custom of Halloween was brought to America in the 1840's by Irish
>>> immigrants fleeing their country's potato famine. At that time, the
>>> favorite pranks in New England included tipping over outhouses and
>>> unhinging fence gates.
>>> 
>>> Since the eighth century, the Catholic Church has celebrated All
>>> Saints' Day on November 1 to celebrate the known and unknown Saints
>>> whom the Church has canonized. The night before the celebration of All
>>> Saint's Day is known as All Hallow's Eve ("Hallows" mean "saints" both
>>> mean "holy ones" as in "Hallowed be thy name"). So, Halloween means
>>> "the evening before All Saint's Day."
>>> 
>>> You can see from the pagan roots of Halloween why this has become the
>>> most important day to those who worship satan or choose to live in
>>> rebellion to God and the TRUTH of His Word. There is NOTHING about
>>> this day that honors God, remembers God, or has anything to do at all
>>> with God. It is, quite honestly, a celebration of those who oppose God
>>> and all that He stands for. THIS is why it's a day Christians should
>>> NOT celebrate nor be part of in any way.
>>> 
>>> I love you and care about you so much. Tomorrow, Part Two of this
>>> series is titled, "A Christian's Response to Halloween." Do we hide in
>>> our homes with the lights off? Do we all go to church and hide in the
>>> basement so the devil doesn't get us? What exactly should a Christian
>>> be doing on Halloween? I will give you a hint. It will be a bold call
>>> to action. I can think of no better night to see souls won for Christ
>>> than on Halloween.
>>> 
>>> DO NOT MISS PART TWO TOMORROW AS WE CELEBRATE A NEW HOLIDAY ON
>>> OCTOBER 31ST THAT WILL HONOR JESUS CHRIST, THE KING OF KINGS, AND LORD
>>> OF LORDS!!!
>>> 
>>> In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
>>> 
>>> Bill Keller
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