[Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two

Sun Oct 19 13:25:44 UTC 2014

Palls posts are uplifting However.

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From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
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Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:02 AM
To: Maureen Pranghofer; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two

Hi and if we are staying to blindness related posts then posts like the
quotes from paul shouln't be here in my opinion as it has nothing to do with
blindness that is what i think of when i think of nfb lists.  although that
is up to the list owner.  as if people reply to his quotes that can make
trafic to.  also if there is a post any one of us does not want to read we
can use the good old delete key and pass it by.

On 10/19/14, Maureen Pranghofer via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> Hi
> Actually that wasn't when I was talking about or thinking of when I 
> sent the question, because I understood it is a list for all faiths, 
> but rather it is for things related to faith and access because of 
> blindness and I would like a list more like what I posted.
> Maureen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donna Elliott via Faith-talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:31 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two
>
> Does anyone else miss when this list was about faith rather than 
> disagreements?  Donna
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 10:23 PM, Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Not sure what you mean by "supposed". The Christmas tree is a Pagan 
>> symbol. No debating that. What you think about that fact is the only 
>> question.
>>
>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 9:56 PM, qubit via Faith-talk 
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Excuse me, but you sound like the people who quote some supposed 
>>> history of the Christmas tree as a pagan symbol.  I think while some 
>>> people gravitate toward ghoulish costumes on halloween, I thinkthe 
>>> majority dress up like anything or anyone they want just for 
>>> something entertaining to do.  For example, I saw a tv reporter ask 
>>> a policeman in NY whose idea it was for him to dress up like a 
>>> policeman for halloween...He laughed and said my boss".
>>> I had a friend dress like a giant crayon.  I I have dressed like a 
>>> lot of things just for fun.
>>> I am not a satan worshipper.  I think that is kind of creepy.  But 
>>> lots of Christians have fun dressing up and eating treats on 
>>> halloween.  The only complaint I have is that it has the word 
>>> "hallow" in the word, which implies something holy, which it is not.
>>> Is someone going to bite me for having pleasant childhood memories 
>>> of halloween?
>>> --le
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Andrew via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Faith-talk" <Faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 5:24 PM
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] halow wean part one of two
>>>
>>>
>>> Halloween - Part 1 of 2
>>>
>>> Should Christians celebrate Halloween? No! What the world will 
>>> celebrate on October 31 is not anything that a Christian should be 
>>> part of. The origin of what we know of as Halloween began in 5th 
>>> century B.C., Celtic Ireland as a holiday marking the end of summer 
>>> on October 31 known as Samhein (sow-en).
>>>
>>> The pagan Celts believed on that day, the disembodied spirits of all 
>>> those who had died throughout the preceding year would come back in 
>>> search of living bodies to possess for the next year. It was 
>>> believed to be their only hope for the afterlife. The Celts believed 
>>> all laws of space and time were suspended during this time, allowing 
>>> the spirit world to intermingle with the living.
>>>
>>> Naturally, the still living did not want to be possessed. So on the 
>>> night of October 31, villagers would extinguish the fires in their 
>>> homes, to make them cold and undesirable. They would then dress up 
>>> in all manner of ghoulish costumes and noisily paraded around the 
>>> neighborhood, being as destructive as possible in order to frighten 
>>> away spirits looking for bodies to possess.
>>>
>>> The Romans adopted the Celtic practices as their own. But in the 
>>> first century A.D., Samhain was assimilated into celebrations of 
>>> some of the other Roman traditions that took place in October, such 
>>> as their day to honor Pomona, the Roman goddess of fruit and trees. 
>>> The symbol of Pomona is the apple, which might explain the origin of 
>>> our modern tradition of bobbing for apples on Halloween. The thrust 
>>> of the practices also changed over time to become more ritualized. 
>>> As belief in spirit possession waned, the practice of dressing up 
>>> like hobgoblins, ghosts, and witches took on a more ceremonial role.
>>>
>>> The custom of Halloween was brought to America in the 1840's by 
>>> Irish immigrants fleeing their country's potato famine. At that 
>>> time, the favorite pranks in New England included tipping over 
>>> outhouses and unhinging fence gates.
>>>
>>> Since the eighth century, the Catholic Church has celebrated All 
>>> Saints' Day on November 1 to celebrate the known and unknown Saints 
>>> whom the Church has canonized. The night before the celebration of 
>>> All Saint's Day is known as All Hallow's Eve ("Hallows" mean 
>>> "saints" both mean "holy ones" as in "Hallowed be thy name"). So, 
>>> Halloween means "the evening before All Saint's Day."
>>>
>>> You can see from the pagan roots of Halloween why this has become 
>>> the most important day to those who worship satan or choose to live 
>>> in rebellion to God and the TRUTH of His Word. There is NOTHING 
>>> about this day that honors God, remembers God, or has anything to do 
>>> at all with God. It is, quite honestly, a celebration of those who 
>>> oppose God and all that He stands for. THIS is why it's a day 
>>> Christians should NOT celebrate nor be part of in any way.
>>>
>>> I love you and care about you so much. Tomorrow, Part Two of this 
>>> series is titled, "A Christian's Response to Halloween." Do we hide 
>>> in our homes with the lights off? Do we all go to church and hide in 
>>> the basement so the devil doesn't get us? What exactly should a 
>>> Christian be doing on Halloween? I will give you a hint. It will be 
>>> a bold call to action. I can think of no better night to see souls 
>>> won for Christ than on Halloween.
>>>
>>> DO NOT MISS PART TWO TOMORROW AS WE CELEBRATE A NEW HOLIDAY ON 
>>> OCTOBER 31ST THAT WILL HONOR JESUS CHRIST, THE KING OF KINGS, AND 
>>> LORD OF LORDS!!!
>>>
>>> In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ,
>>>
>>> Bill Keller
>>>
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