[Faith-talk] forgiveness Re: developmental delay among the blind

[Vejas Vasiliauskas]

Hi Maureen,
Thank you so much for this message. It means a lot to me. I'm so sorry
that you had to go through the sexual assult, and I will remember what
you sd about apologizing. I already know he won't apologize, yet still
want him to, and I don't need for him to tell me I'm right (would be
nice if he said he was wrong(. Anyway, a very valuable piece of
information.
Vejas


On 1/1/15, Maureen Pranghofer <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi list friends
> Over time in the forgiveness process I have found an interesting thing which
>
> is a sign of true forgiveness.  That in time and in repentence you come to a
>
> point in which you do not need an apology from the other person.  Needing an
>
> apology says in the end that you are right and the other person is wrong and
>
> you need them to tell you that.  They may very well be absolutely wrong but
>
> in true forgiveness whatever they did no longer has a hold on you, it no
> longer matters and even the memory of it is dim.  I speak from personal
> experience as I was sexually assaulted and now when I think of it which is
> very rare it is more like yes it happened but I do not carry the emotions
> with it and the assaulter never did anything with me as far as
> reconciliation after the assault.
> And it might be because the person is no longer alive that I have let it go
>
> though before I learned of their death I no longer harbored any ill feelings
>
> or feelings like there needed to be an apology or even an admission from
> them.
> Just my experience.
> Maureen
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vejas Vasiliauskas
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 9:58 AM
> To: Debby Phillips
> Cc: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion ;
> maureensmusic at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] forgiveness Re: developmental delay among the
> blind
>
> Hi Debby,
> Thank you for the message. I think I might be in the same part of the
> process as you. I wanted mine to die too at first. Now I still
> sometimes feel this way, but I now mainly just want him to apologize.
> I can also relate to him popping back in your life''' this school
> adult acts like he's a teenager in high school who just can't be
> bothered. I know he has issues. Like there have been times where I had
> thought I was doing fine with the process, then he'd do something
> again. It's good you warn people about him. In my case I don't tell
> everyone at school because they might like him, since he likes to act
> innocent.
> I'm still not emotionally ready to pray for him yet, though.
> I don't know about you, but I feel that despite my negative experience
> I have come out a stronger person in the end.
> Good luck in your forgiveness process.
> Vejas
>
> On 12/31/14, Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com> wrote:
>> First of all, I like how you said that it's okay to feel sorry
>> for yourself, but not too much.  That's great!
>>
>> I think forgiving the person who did bad stuff to me is, and has
>> been the hardest thing in my life, or at least one of them.  And
>> I'm not even sure I've done it.  I don't want to ever see him
>> again, I wouldn't trust him ever, and have warned others that
>> they shouldn't.  But I have made progress.  I used to wish that
>> he would die a painful death.  (I'm not joking).  I don't wish
>> that anymore, and the other day I thought, I need to pray that he
>> has an encounter with Christ.  Not like at death or whatever, but
>> soon while he can repent and be baptized.
>>
>> I know what it means to have God's forgiveness, but God forgets
>> our sins and I don't have that ability.  So wow, maybe I haven't
>> totally forgiven.  Sigh.  He just keeps invading my life, and I
>> just don't want him to be part of it at all.    Blessings,
>> Debby and Neena
>>
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