[Faith-talk] The Principle of Wu Wei

[Poppa Bear]

Brandon, this is a far out left question, but I figured that I would ask it
because if we were sitting down on a couch shooting the bull, drinking
beers, whiskey, wine or orange juice, I would ask a dozen silly little
questions to get a good idea of how some of this stuff plays out in life. If
you had mice in your home getting into your food, leaving feces where your
children played and slept would you consider a need to put up mouse traps?
I'm just curious. 

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To: Debby Phillips
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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] The Principle of Wu Wei

Debby,

Not necessarily only talking about teaching. And it depends on the type of
teaching you mean. When it comes to spirituality, I do believe that nothing
needs to be said. Many times I do say things for the sake of saying them,
but I don't see it as teaching. In spirituality, there's simply nothing to
be taught.

It is exactly doing nothing, but sometimes doing nothing looks like doing
something. The difference is that "I" am not personally involved. The thing
is just done, almost effortlessly.

As for right and wrong, it comes down to a difference in worldview. The
Christian worldview is that there is a personal God, reigning over his
created universe. He sets laws that we must follow, or else there are
consequences. We are lower than this god, and owe everything to him.

In the eastern, Taoist/Hindu/Buddhist worldview, this is flipped on its head
and inside out, if you will. There is no personal God above us, but the
essence that we are is one with the Infinite, whatever each religion calls
it (Brahman/Tao/etc). Not that we are *part* of this, but we *are* this and
it is us. The appearance of individual people you see is simply "God"
putting on many masks. The Tao/Brahman/God puts on the mask of a saint, and
of a "sinner". It puts on the mask of a king, and a common person.
Ironically, it puts on the mask of a Christian, and of a Hindu, and of a
Pagan, and even of an Atheist. It loves and hates equally, because these are
all part of the dualistic world in which Life is experienced, effortlessly
and naturally.

So when you say, everyone has the sense of right and wrong, it simply
doesn't make sense in this wider worldview. When all things are a happening
of the Infinite, then all things are equal in the absolute sense.

Realizing this fact is the entire "point" of our sojourn in this world, if
there is any point at all. It makes everything inherently acceptable,
because everything is an expression of Life.

I hope this makes sense, and I'm happy to continue the discussion or answer
any other questions.

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Peace,
Brandon

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> On Jan 9, 2015, at 8:58 PM, Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
wrote:
> 
> Hmm.  Not sure I understand this.  So if I'm a teacher, I teach by
silence? I think I can see that to a point, but at some point it doesn't
exactly strike me as doing anything.  I understand just Being in God's
presence, not having to accomplish anything, just being there, sitting in
silence.  Is this kind of what you're getting at?
> 
> To say there is no right or wrong is a little strange.  We are born with
some innate sense of right and wrong.  There is no society that condones,
for instance, the random killing of another person.  There is something
innately repugnant about that act.     Blessings,    Debby and Neena

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