[Faith-talk] some updates on Nick, and my day summarized

[Andrew]

i agree with ashley you do need to have a plan in place.  if this
group home truly is abusive  then there are ways going about it. if
indeed this group home is abusive  also what sources are telling you
that this group home is indeed abusing nick he has he said this
himself   are you hearing these things from relyable sources. also
have you called  the group home  yourself   maybe not every thing you
have heard can be deemed as true.  we need more factual information
before we can advise and things.  as some of the things like others
say are confusing.

On 1/17/15, Ashley Bramlett via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Debbie,
> I have some of the same questions. The emails were not clear; Beth did not
> even explain his disabilities originally.
> Some of the issues she brought up do not seem like abuse, IMO.
>
> Not having an iphone is not abuse. Separation from girlfriends in the home
> is not abuse either.
> The only thing smelling of abuse is the group home's failure to respect his
>
> privacy while Beth and he talk.
>
> There are bad and good group homes. And I'd say that some people belong
> there, while others do not. It depends on the disability too; some autistic
>
> people can live independently and others cannot.
>
> As you proceed Beth, I'd suggest you have a plan in mind what you want to
> have done with him. You do not want  him in a worse situation whether its in
>
> a group home or someplace else.
> Its fine to expose places if they are really doing wrong, if they are really
>
> abusive, but you then should have a plan to deal with the people in the
> group home. Where should they go and who will care for them? Not everyone
> has family to care  for them, and not everyone can get a competetive job who
>
> has severe multiple disabilities and even if they have the capacity to live
>
> on their own, some cannot afford to. Heck, I know many young sighted
> nondisabled people who live with family or friends because they cannot
> afford to live on their own.
>
> So do proceed, but also decide what you want to happen. Do you want to
> expose the group home for what it is? Do you want a call for it to be
> reformed  or closed? Generally when you go to the media about something, you
>
> want a plan of action and points to discuss with them called talking
> points.
> So figure out what that is and go ahead.
>
> I suspect he is in the group home for other disabilities, not his
> blindness.
>
>
> Good luck.
>
> Ashley
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Debby Phillips via Faith-talk
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 9:52 PM
> To: Vejas Vasiliauskas ; Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>
> ; joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com ; faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] some updates on Nick, and my day summarized
>
> Perhaps some of us have missed some earlier emails.  Please Beth,
> articulately explain how this group home has abused Nick.  You
> say he cannot have an iphone.  Well, they are expensive.  Perhaps
> Nick doesn't have enough money for one.  You say that Nick has to
> follow rules, and can't talk to his girlfriend.  Please explain
> why.  Why was Nick placed in the group home in the first place?
> Who made the decision? Has Nick been on his own before? If so,
> what happened? If I were a pastor of his church, I would want to
> know these things.  I have seen people who absolutely should NOT
> be on their own.  Not just because they can't do stuff on their
> own, but because they are vulnerable and people have taken
> advantage of them.  Please don't misunderstand me here.  No one
> should be abused, and if that is happening then there are good
> ways to handle these things.  Getting the media involved may
> indeed have to be done.  But we need to use prudence.  And if I
> were a pastor, I would want to know more facts.  People get
> excited and emotional about when they hear someone is in a bad
> situation.  Believe me, I will and have advocated for people who
> were not getting what they needed.  But I had all my facts, and
> eventually did get what was needed to happen.    Blessings,
> Debby and Neena
>
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