[Faith-talk] Prayer and Blindness

[Christine Olivares]

Hi Danielle,
I, too, am Catholic, but possibly like you, am very open-minded and have expanded my knowledge where I can. Anyway, I grew up in a charismatic Catholic prayer group, so I have always gotten prayed for for healing. Though my parents and siblings are not charismatic, they allowed me to express myself that way. My father often prayed over me before I went to sleep due to all my eye medical issues. So for me, being prayed over was usually a very positive and loving experience, not one of pity or feeling bad for me. I think I had a slight different situation because of all the surgeries I had and everything.

I agree that it takes so much courage to go up to a random person and offer to pray for them. I have this problem and don’t have the boldness to do so. I don’t necessarily look for the physical issue, but if I talk to someone and feel they need prayer, I will ask them if I can pray for them since sometimes it’s an issue we cannot see but one we hear of as we talk to them. I will pray for you that you get the resources and healing you need. God bless,

Christine
> On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:47 PM, Danielle Antoine <singingmywayin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, Maureen I am glad you chimed in. I have had same. Now I do
> believe there is somecredibility to that as the woman with the issue
> of blood was healed after touching jesus clothes. Also, what about the
> woman bowed over with likely arthritis. She too was healed. Does God
> give us sickness, no. However, in some cases, and this is documented
> in Job, he does allow it. My question is how long though? I, myself,
> have been sick with one ailment or another, for years. However, this
> is partly due to my circumstances of having no insurance, limited
> coverage from the government, living in a rural area with limited
> transportation, limited nutrition because for some reason I never can
> seem to get Food Stamps/I live with fluctuating numbers of people, ,
> stress, stress, a possible incomplete miscarriage, and so on and so
> on. Do I believe I am possessed of the devil, no I certainly do not.
> Did God allow this, perhaps. But, I know and have faith in that if I
> had access to proper, adequate, and continuous consistent health care
> options, I would get better in a reasonable amount of time. You have
> to give some mercy though because they are really trying to help and
> believe in what they are doing. It takes great courage to ask someone
> to pray for them and actually lay your hands on them. I was brought up
> in the Catholic faith and you are not encouraged to do this openly. I
> had a good, very patient, devoted, and committed friend and mother
> who taught me how, encouraged and fully expected me to do so.
> 
> God bless yall,
> Danielle, who misses her Mother and Sister in Christ very very much
> Now I'm on my own.
> 
> On 1/23/15, Christine Olivares via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Maurine,
>> I completely agree with you. I have also done a lot of study on healing and
>> such, and I have heard of spirits causing disease. An example is a spirit of
>> infirmity. Jesus also did casted out a deaf and dumb spirit, but spirits are
>> different than demons. So yes, there are spirits of whatever, but you have
>> to be able to discern them. Demons is pushing it I think.
>> 
>> god bless,
>> Christine
>>> On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:04 PM, Maureen Pranghofer via Faith-talk
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi
>>> I have studied extensively spiritual roots to some diseases and you can't
>>> say that there is never a spiritual connection, the great news is that God
>>> over comes that is the emphasis not the devil.
>>> Maureen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Linda Mentink via Faith-talk
>>> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:23 AM
>>> To: Tony Sohl ; Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Prayer and Blindness
>>> 
>>> That's wacked. Blindness is not demon-related. Those who think so
>>> give Satan way too much credit! Those are the same ones who say he
>>> gives them colds and other illnesses. They don't know their Bibles,
>>> nor do they really know their Lord.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Linda
>>> 
>>> At 11:09 AM 1/23/2015, you wrote:
>>>> Hi I have had faith healers come up to me while i'm out running errands
>>>> sometime and they want to pray for me and they put their hands over my
>>>> eyes. They ask God to "cast this demon out of me. After they're done, I
>>>> tel them that with perpoer training and alternative techniques, blindness
>>>> is just a  physical neusance. Sometimes they get it and sometimes they
>>>> dont.
>>>> 
>>>> I also had one person tell me that since my parents sinned , that's why
>>>> i'm blind and I'm part devil!
>>>> 
>>>> After they left I asked God to protect me and to tell the devil to go
>>>> away!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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