[Faith-talk] Church experiences

Mon Sep 7 14:58:21 UTC 2015

I have had a mixture of experience but so have sighted people. I have found that I was responsible for some of my negative experiences. As I changed, more people accepted me at service, in areas I served, and people have helped me and I have helped them.

I am a celebrate recovery leader, co lead a small group bible study, attend ladies ministry events, and regular Sunday and Wednesday services.  I use tools mentioned in previous emails.

I found it difficult to attend where there was more programs yet far from my house. I have found attending right across the street easiest for me to get transportation, attend many days, volunteer, and have been blessed with mutual connection and friendship. 

Sincerely, Denise Valkema by iPhone 

> On Sep 7, 2015, at 10:40 AM, Debbie Brown via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> My church is far from perfect, but even the sighted people have transportation problems because our parking lot is small.  One woman picks up several people.  I come on the bus, but she takes me home.  She is giving very generously of her time.  It is more than a "help the handicapped" thing.
> 
> Also, I am concerned about a person who can change their religion so easily just because another group appears welcoming. All religious groups make demands on you.  It is expected that you will either grow in your faith (if it is an honest religion) or submit your whole life to the group (if it is a cult).
> 
> It is easy to get Bibles and some good commentaries and study the Bible on your own.  You can gain some respect by being a good Bible student if your church is any good.  I can promise that many of your sighted colleagues are lazy about their Bible study, possibly because it is so easy for them.  We have many blessings today that some of us did not have when we were growing up.  Bookshare, Optasia, and Bible Gateway are all good sources of information.  I thank God that faith cometh by hearing, and that our beliefs are text-based and accessible to the blind.
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> Debbie Brown
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Kaiser via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> Cc: "Rob Kaiser" <rcubfank at sbcglobal.net>
> Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
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>> I guess what all of this menas is that with the world like it is today people are getting more carsious about wantig to help handycapped individuals.
>> 
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>> Rob Kaiser
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>> -----Original Message----- From: justin williams via Faith-talk
>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 4:40 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>> 
>> Mine has been very up and down, on the whole, more down than up.  So much so
>> recently, that I can't even get my self excited about attending a church.
>> I go to Bahaii events; they seem to be more accepting for the most part.
>> I also go to workshops and events related to spirituality.
>> That church business with inclusion and transportation seems to be not worth
>> the trouble.
>> 
>> Justin.
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>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maria S
>> via Faith-talk
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>> Cc: Maria S <raynbo15 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
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>> I've had good and bad experiences. My church here locally is very small and
>> so they are very inclusive and I'm welcome to participate in whatever I
>> want. When I moved for a job, I tried to be involved, but no matter how hard
>> I tried I was always sort of left in the corner.
>> They were very friendly so it was hard. I hope I can find a good church when
>> I move soon.
>> 
>> Maria
>> 
>>> On 9/6/15, Rob Kaiser via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Since I moved up here to Victorville, I have had a not-so-good church
>>> experience: I wanted  to join the choir but because of the lac of
>>> public and
>>> 
>>> pera transit up here,  I needed rides to and from church. Not a one
>>> person has come forward to help  me in this endever.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rob Kaiser
>>> hm#(442)242-7044
>>> email;
>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Roanna Bacchus via Faith-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 11:24 AM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
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>>> Hi Adrijana this is a great discussion topic.  My church expeerience
>>> has been wonderful. I joined the choir in October of two thousand
>>> eight and the people were gracious and kind to me.
>>> 
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