[Faith-talk] Church experiences

Fri Sep 18 03:58:14 UTC 2015

Well, I don't go to church anymore. To many hurtful experiences and so
I stay home. That way nobody feels the need or has the opportunity to
worry about my worship and lifestyle choices. People I thought were
with me and for me weren't and the others trying to resurrect me or
right me or something like that.

On 9/17/15, melissa R Green via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> It is good to know that many have had good experiences with churches.  I
> have had more bad than good.  Thus, I now consider myself a believer that is
> nonon-practicing.  I have had many people thank me for this term because
> they don't know what to say.  And it really fits me, and I don't have to say
> I am non-dinoninational or any specific religion.  One day it is my prayer
> that we will have acceptance even in the church.
>
>
> Warmly,
> Melissa R. Green and Pj
> It is 'where we are' that should make all the difference, whether we believe
> we belong there or not.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of andrew
> edgcumbe via Faith-talk
> Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 7:14 AM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> Cc: andrew edgcumbe
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>
> sadly  allot of churches judge people and  that is what makes people leave
> far to many play god or Jesus is another way to put it.  yes sin is sin but
> it is not our job as the church to condem that is god's job.
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Ericka via Faith-talk <
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your nice responses Debbie, Papa bear etc. So many times I
>> feel almost guilty for having positive experiences. I feel so sad when I
>> hear about negative experiences as such a place where our calling as
>> Christians or any faith community is to make others feel welcome and share
>> faith and fellowship together. Though it's not explicitly said most faith
>> traditions have a rule similar to the golden rule. Sadly we break this one
>> disabled or not. Bless you for you are all my neighbors. I only hope to be
>> a good neighbor. I know I am not a perfect one!
>>
>> Ericka Short
>> "Friends are like flowers in the garden of life"
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:18 PM, Poppa Bear via Faith-talk <
>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Erica, I enjoyed hearing about your Church experience. It makes me want
>> to go down the street about a mile and fellowship at the Lutheran Church.
>> One of my daughters attended a preschool program there a few years ago and
>> I really connected with the pastor on both a friend and scholastic level.
>> He was a jovial guy and he and his family lived behind the Church in a
>> Parsonage/Pastors home. That is rare to find in this day and age, many
>> Pastors couldn't imagine having to live on the Church property and be that
>> committed to all of the related aspects of responsibility that a living
>> situation like that would bring, but I myself think that it would be
>> ideal.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Ericka via Faith-talk
>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 10:35 PM
>> > To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> > Cc: Ericka
>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>> >
>> > What a great question and I've been watching the responses. I've been
>> pretty blast silly years and been excepted pretty well into any
>> congregation I've been a member of. Like many others I've done some church
>> shopping in my time. We have to keep in mind when we respond hear that our
>> experienceis just that. Every community – city and faith community are
>> different. I've had better luck with the Lutheran Church is I've attended
>> than anyone else as far as being welcomed and included in activities.
>> Growing up my UCC congregation was willing to let me do most anything.
>> Catholic, baptists, and fundamentalists either wouldn't have anything to
>> do
>> with me or wanted to fix me. They didn't want me just as I am. I believe
>> Jules would want me just the way he made me and that's why I bailed among
>> other reasons. It disturbs me that I see church members treating visually
>> impaired differently than the totally blind. I've had this experience many
>> times with my boyfriend who lost his vision later in life. I was a new
>> person to their congregation in Madison. He had been attending this
>> Baptist
>> Church for a year. Nobody really came up to him and spoke to him at all
>> except the pastor. A couple here and there came up and said hello Shook
>> his
>> hand and then walked off just as he was trying to engage in conversation.
>> However they did speak to me and asked me questions about him like he
>> doesn't exist or couldn't speak for himself. 12 years ago I could see my
>> congregation doing this but I am very proud of them they have never done
>> this to any blind friend I have brought to church with me. Not that I
>> didn't have to fight or charm them into understanding that I was quite
>> capable and had a calling from God to share talents with them. In my
>> current ELCA church (Evangelical Lutheran Church in America) people joke
>> that I've done almost everything but preach. Well, it's almost true since
>> I've taught Sunday school for all ages, served on several committees,
>> submitted proposals for Service projects to council which were amazingly
>> excepted, began on homebound Ministry to shut ins, volunteered to be a
>> part
>> of the process to find a new pastor, and gave children sermons when we
>> were
>> between pastors a few times. I'm not as involved as I used to be because I
>> am planning to move, but as one person said on here quite a while ago your
>> actions and attitude sometimes affect how you are welcomed in a
>> congregation. St. Paul's Lutheran Church has been incredibly wonderful to
>> me but I have tried so hard to give back as well. God has truly blessed me
>> by putting me in this congregation. I have lots of good friends who are
>> willing to pick me up at the bus station when I come from out of town,
>> they
>> call me when they're going to the grocery store asking if I need a ride,
>> and we do fun things as well. I went from nobody talking to me either from
>> being asked to be at church council and having to turn it down. Nothing
>> changed overnight and I'll tell you there was a lot of prayer involved in
>> these years of how to ask. God gives you what you need and how to ask for
>> it as well as how to be active in your congregation at the right time. Now
>> most of my time is spent lectoring, assisting with communion/eucharist,
>> and
>> being my congregations representative to an interfaithfaith-based human
>> rights advocacy group which the pastor actually sought me out to do. God
>> works in mysterious ways we have to remember that. I can't wait to see
>> what
>> he believes I can do next. I certainly know it will not be singing in the
>> choir!
>> >
>> > Ericka Short
>> > "Friends are like flowers in the garden of life"
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Sep 8, 2015, at 11:03 PM, Rob Kaiser via Faith-talk <
>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I will do that, but I don't believe Victorville has such a program.
>> Thanks for the suggestion. I'll call the city tomorrow.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Rob Kaiser
>> >> hm#(442)242-7044
>> >> email;
>> >> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>> >> -----Original Message----- From: tina sohl via Faith-talk
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 7:56 PM
>> >> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >> Cc: tina sohl
>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>> >>
>> >> Rob, we have a cab subsidy program in our area and wonder if there's
>> >> something similar for you if you haven't looked, maybe asking the city
>> >> about it. We can a certain amount of money load  a month to get
>> >> specific dollar amounts loaded on a cab card that we can use and the
>> >> city we're subsidizes the rest. It does help some. have you looked in
>> >> to such a thing? it might be worthy it.
>> >> Original message:
>> >>> There are busses but the service is very limmited on sundays & like
>> >>> the pera transit service, they stop @8 pm on week days & 5 pm on
>> >>> weekends. Cabs are just very dificult to get & II as I wrote before,
>> they are very expensive.
>> >>> There probably is another church but it would be further away &
>> >>> possibly harder to get to as far as  transportation. Victorville is a
>> >>> great town in may instances, but it isn't a good place for disabled
>> >>> individulas. Right now, because of my limmited income, this is where I
>> need to live.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Rob Kaiser
>> >>> hm#(442)242-7044
>> >>> email;
>> >>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: tina sohl via Faith-talk
>> >>> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2015 11:23 AM
>> >>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >>> Cc: tina sohl
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>> >>
>> >>> Are there not buses or cabs there? are there other churches you can
>> >>> try? We have so far found our new church to be a very positive change.
>> >>> Itt's not easy, but we felt restless and like things werent going
>> >>> anywhere so felt god urging us to try somerthing else and so far it's
>> >>> been very good.
>> >>> Original message:
>> >>>> Since I moved up here to Victorville, I have had a not-so-good
>> >>>> church
>> >>>> experience: I wanted  to join the choir but because of the lac of
>> >>>> public and pera transit up here,  I needed rides to and from church.
>> >>>> Not a one person has come forward to help  me in this endever.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>> Rob Kaiser
>> >>>> hm#(442)242-7044
>> >>>> email;
>> >>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>>> From: Roanna Bacchus via Faith-talk
>> >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 11:24 AM
>> >>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> >>>> Cc: Roanna Bacchus
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church experiences
>> >>
>> >>>> Hi Adrijana this is a great discussion topic.  My church expeerience
>> >>>> has been wonderful.  I joined the choir in October of two thousand
>> >>>> eight and the people were gracious and kind to me.
>> >>
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