[Faith-talk] updates on my current living situation

Wed Mar 2 21:48:02 UTC 2016

Definitely a dysfunctional person and another dysfunctional person will struggle. From experience if one is functional and the other one isn't it is a major challenge. That contributed to my divorce.

Ericka Short
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> On Mar 2, 2016, at 12:38 PM, andrew edgcumbe via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> that is so true  if you can't be happy with yourself how can you expect to
> happy with somebody else.  beth what you have to consider is this can you
> take care of yourself can you cook clean and doo the all the nessisary
> house work.  can you pay your bills and   what can't you do. If you can't
> take care of yourself  then you for sure can't take care of the boy
> friend.  you need to seek out biblical council and you need to seek out
> bible believing church. the things is this allot of churches may say they
> teach the bible but  many churches have strayed away from the bible and
> teaching truth in my opinion.  If i were you i would be open and honest
> with your family even about this situation. i think being honest is very
> important.  another thing is this reason linda was asking if your boy
> friend was a christian is because  an unbeliever can't be yoked to a
> believer or vice a versa  a believer yoked to an unbeliever.  the bible
> does say that.  If we don't do things god's way we are just headed for far
> more stresses or problems if we do things outside of the will of god.  we
> may have problems as christians but at least god is there to walk you
> through them.  How can we expect the blessing of God if we don't do things
> his way and how can we expect his favour if we don't do things way he asks
> us to.  if the boy friend has big problems to then it is not advised that a
> disfunctional person can't be with another disfunctional person believe me
> it would just double the problem and stuff.  It can add to stress to.
> inless a person can grow within themselves how can they help others until
> they help themselves.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Poppa Bear via Faith-talk <
> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>> Right on Andrew, many people are so desperate to feel a connection with
>> somebody that they will often abandon the real people who care about them
>> to
>> seek out any kind of affection that they can get. No parent is perfect, but
>> once you become a parent you do find out how much love it took to raise you
>> and all of the sacrifices that had to be made to take care of you and then
>> you see how important a parents claims on you are. The connection and
>> attention that we all desire on the deepest level can only come from God. I
>> have found out that broken people without peace in their lives will
>> typically find somebody else who is in the same boat and then instead of
>> having one miserable struggling person they have multiplied all of the
>> misery, brokenness and baggage by two. Once that cycle starts in somebody's
>> life it is hard to choose a different path and healthy relationships, we
>> need to find ourselves desperate for God and not somebody to make us feel
>> loved because they will fail every time and then we will be left like a
>> scared baby in a crib all alone still rejecting the hands of our heavenly
>> father.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> andrew
>> edgcumbe via Faith-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 8:45 AM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] updates on my current living situation
>> 
>> thanks papa bear the thing is this some might consider the bible old
>> fationed and stuff but  God never changes so there fore i feel he never
>> changes his word to us.  I was through a situation with a girl not long ago
>> and stuff actually. The thing was this She wanted me to live with her in
>> the
>> worst way yet I let her talk about it for a while and let things  go for a
>> while but basically I just p ut an end to the relationship december.
>> She wanted to sleep with me in a hotel my parents said  i was with the
>> young
>> adult group that night but during friday she got nasty with my parents in
>> fact. The thing is this she  had said allot of lies my dad called her
>> parents.  The thing is this I found out what she was really like under the
>> surface the truth of the matter  is this if you were to meet her she would
>> seem nice but  the thing is this she was very  very clingy and stuff like
>> that.  she did not even talk to her parents about me.  I not sure is if
>> your
>> family is truly that bad or not but maybe your mom or dad have a reason
>> behind what they say to you and stuff like that.  you need to seek advice
>> from bible beliving christians. what you need to do is you can only serve
>> tw
>> you can't serve two masters you either serve god or the devil.  Marriage i
>> know it may not always seem that way but marriage should bring families
>> together and things  when you mary a boy friend or girl friend you mary the
>> family. Family is very important.  The family is is the Godly way.  our
>> families may not be perfect  but  we need to respect our parents and
>> respect
>> our alders that means respect those who are older than we are.  we need to
>> the bible says to honor your parents.
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Poppa Bear via Faith-talk <
>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow Andrew, you said some very wise things, I am blessed that you can
>>> also see the wisdom in Linda's words, Linda may have came off as over
>>> stern to some, but I believe that she is just getting to the important
>>> bottom line stuff and if a person took her advice then they would more
>>> than likely land on their spiritual feet and not on their head and be
>> walking in God's will.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>> andrew edgcumbe via Faith-talk
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2016 7:59 AM
>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Cc: andrew edgcumbe
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] updates on my current living situation
>>> 
>>> i could not have said it better than linda  you need to  not block
>>> your family out of the picture family is very very important.  all we
>>> can see here is your side of the story  there are always two sides to the
>> story.
>>> you need to not get ahead of god and his will. you need to do things
>>> god's way.  God's way is not to live together and if you two sleep
>>> together you will undefile the bed of God.  you need to seek spiritual
>>> council from a pastor or your church you need to first off if you are
>>> not in a bible believing church you need to find one we may not like
>>> what god says but the bible and God tells the truth as it is and the
>>> truth is the reality.  you need to look at things through god first
>>> God needs to be put first before your boy friend.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:50 AM, Linda Mentink via Faith-talk <
>>> faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Beth,
>>>> 
>>>> Please be careful what you write here, and watch your language.
>>>> Remember, all messages are archived. I know it's rough for you and
>>>> your boyfriend right now, but you're very wrong, if in fact you
>>>> believe yourself to be a Christian, to live together before marriage.
>>>> The Bible tells us to avoid the appearance of evil, and that the
>>>> marriage
>>> bed is not to be defiled.
>>>> You're struggles are partly because you are not being obedient to
>>>> your Lord, no matter how you rationalize it.. In my opinion, you're
>>>> going about this all wrong. Your boyfriend should stay with a church
>>>> family temporarily, if possible, and get his finances squared away.
>>>> Neither of you will be tempted to enter into the "nowing each other"
>>>> part of the relationship before marriage.
>>>> 
>>>> As to FaceBook, also be careful what you post there as well. Share
>>>> privately with a few close friends, and don't block your family..
>>>> 
>>>> You are allowing people and circumstances to rule over you, rather
>>>> than allowing God to work in and through you. We on this list are
>>>> praying for you, but God's will won't be done if your will isn't
>>>> lining up with His. Be careful how you spend what little money you
>>>> have so that you can save for a marriage license. Maybe your pastor
>>>> will preside over a private ceremony in the Church when you can
>>>> afford
>>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> Many of the problems we all have in our lives are partly of our own
>>>> making, and we blame God or others for how things are turning out for
>> us.
>>>> Please ask God for discernment and His wisdom, and stop plowing
>>>> ahead with your own agenda.
>>>> 
>>>> I continue to pray for you.
>>>> 
>>>> Blessings,
>>>> 
>>>> Linda
>>>> 
>>>> 
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