[Faith-talk] {Spam?} Re: The Purpose of This List

Sun Sep 4 17:59:01 UTC 2016

Some info here may be helpful. At least in some strains of Islam, English 
versions of the Quran are not considered to be accurate--perhaps Mostafa can 
explain this more thoroughly. The same is the case in Judaism--Torah is read 
in Hebrew, and there was a debate over a long time about whether a braille 
Hebrew Torah was considered a faithful representation of sacred text because 
the shape of the letters was considered to have as much spiritual 
representation as the text itself.

I will have more thoughts later about some of the topics raised this 
weekend. I am only online briefly today.

Sarah Blake LaRose, M.Div., accessible instruction in biblical languages
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-----Original Message----- 
From: debby via Faith-Talk
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:02 AM
To: Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk
Cc: debby
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] The Purpose of This List

I have seen a Braille Quran pardon my bad spelling, in Braille and I believe 
it was in English. I also know that the Mormons andthe Jehovah's Witnesses 
have material in braille, or at least they used to. My grandmother was a 
Jehovah's Witness and got me some braille stuff.

How sad for this Muslim woman. Whether I agree with Islam or not, a person 
ought to be a to get accessible material in English if that's their primary 
language, and either bhl or audible.     Blessings,    Debby

On Sep 3, 2016 10:09 PM, Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> It would be helpful to me to understand the purpose of the list (and the
> communities of faith division as well since I am new to NFB). I know that
> the NFB has a division specifically for Jewish members. Where do Muslims 
> go
> in the There are valid reasons for members of particular faith groups to
> come together to talk about blindness and faith. In both the Christian and
> Jewish communities, there are networks of service probiders where people 
> go
> for their literature needs, religious education help, accessibility
> awareness training for faith communities, etc. I am not acquainted with 
> any
> providers of accessible material for blind Muslims in the United States. I
> am, in fact, acquainted with some blind Muslims in the United States. One 
> of
> them told me she had a braille Quran in Arabic, but she did not know how 
> to
> read it and had nowhere to learn unless she went overseas. Friends, this 
> is
> not ok. Jews can learn Hebrew in the United States. Christians can learn
> Hebrew and Greek if they want to study the Bible in its languages. As a
> matter of fact, in doctoral programs where people study biblical 
> languages,
> universities often encourage people to study Arabic so that the linguistic
> structure can be compared with Hebrew.
>
>
>
> Sarah Blake LaRose, M.Div., accessible instruction in biblical languages
> Personal mail: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com
> http://www.sarahblakelarose.com
> Info for seminaries and faith communities: http://www.night-light.org
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Brandon Olivares via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:51 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Cc: Brandon Olivares
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] The Purpose of This List
>
> I wouldn’t go that far. If Islamic topics are banned, then so should be
> Christian topics. As David said, this is not a Christian list. It is a 
> list
> about faith.
>
> I agree Mostafa goes overboard, but there shouldn’t be a blanket ban of
> Muslims posting. Your own opinions about Islam, or any other faith, are
> exactly that: your opinions.
>
> Brandon
> > On Sep 3, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Emanuel via Faith-Talk
> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Amen please dont poste things about islam here
> > Skickat från min kapsys
> >
> > Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> skrev:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I guess I need to post this again, even though it says it in the
> >> header, and maybe the footer of all the messges.  This list is
> >> for the discussion of faith and blindness.  Because I am a born
> >> again believer in Christ, I have allowed prayer requests, quotes,
> >> and articles that speak to listers who share them with us.  I
> >> believe that it's important, especially in these last days before
> >> Christ snatches His own away from this earth, to support and
> >> encourage each other.
> >>
> >> As for Adam, he's been asked not to post his false teachings
> >> here, but I can't stop him, and I can't unsubscribe him.  I don't
> >> believe that he is blind, either.  The best thing to do with his
> >> posts is to delete them without responding.  The best thing to do
> >> for him is to pray for his soul's salvation.  First, though, he
> >> has to believe what the Bible says.  He believes that he has had
> >> additional revelations, including that the exodus hasn't
> >> happened, but will soon.
> >>
> >> As for Mostafa, he's a Muslim living in Egypt, and is blind, as
> >> far as I know.  He just wants to post his Islamic propoganda, and
> >> will not respond to anything we say in response.  He doesn't
> >> count what we believe as important, and wants us to convert to
> >> Islam.  So, do the same with his posts: delete them without
> >> responding.  Pray for the salvation of his soul.  His God is not
> >> the one Christians worship.  Our God would not command us to kill
> >> those who disagree with us about morality and the Bible, but
> >> counts every life as precious because He created us all.
> >>
> >> Anyway, this is still a free country, and people are free to join
> >> and post to this list as long as they are respectful of all the
> >> listers.  Use discretion.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Linda Mentink, List Moderator
> >>
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