[Faith-talk] {Spam?} Re: The Purpose of This List

Sun Sep 4 18:46:55 UTC 2016

I will pray for everyone on this email  list!
Please pray for me too since all of my core classes are challenging but manageable. 
Please be kind to everyone!

Shikha. 

> On Sep 4, 2016, at 1:59 PM, Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Some info here may be helpful. At least in some strains of Islam, English versions of the Quran are not considered to be accurate--perhaps Mostafa can explain this more thoroughly. The same is the case in Judaism--Torah is read in Hebrew, and there was a debate over a long time about whether a braille Hebrew Torah was considered a faithful representation of sacred text because the shape of the letters was considered to have as much spiritual representation as the text itself.
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> I will have more thoughts later about some of the topics raised this weekend. I am only online briefly today.
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> Sarah Blake LaRose, M.Div., accessible instruction in biblical languages
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> -----Original Message----- From: debby via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2016 10:02 AM
> To: Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk
> Cc: debby
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] The Purpose of This List
> 
> I have seen a Braille Quran pardon my bad spelling, in Braille and I believe it was in English. I also know that the Mormons andthe Jehovah's Witnesses have material in braille, or at least they used to. My grandmother was a Jehovah's Witness and got me some braille stuff.
> 
> How sad for this Muslim woman. Whether I agree with Islam or not, a person ought to be a to get accessible material in English if that's their primary language, and either bhl or audible.     Blessings,    Debby
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>> On Sep 3, 2016 10:09 PM, Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> It would be helpful to me to understand the purpose of the list (and the
>> communities of faith division as well since I am new to NFB). I know that
>> the NFB has a division specifically for Jewish members. Where do Muslims go
>> in the There are valid reasons for members of particular faith groups to
>> come together to talk about blindness and faith. In both the Christian and
>> Jewish communities, there are networks of service probiders where people go
>> for their literature needs, religious education help, accessibility
>> awareness training for faith communities, etc. I am not acquainted with any
>> providers of accessible material for blind Muslims in the United States. I
>> am, in fact, acquainted with some blind Muslims in the United States. One of
>> them told me she had a braille Quran in Arabic, but she did not know how to
>> read it and had nowhere to learn unless she went overseas. Friends, this is
>> not ok. Jews can learn Hebrew in the United States. Christians can learn
>> Hebrew and Greek if they want to study the Bible in its languages. As a
>> matter of fact, in doctoral programs where people study biblical languages,
>> universities often encourage people to study Arabic so that the linguistic
>> structure can be compared with Hebrew.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sarah Blake LaRose, M.Div., accessible instruction in biblical languages
>> Personal mail: sarah at sarahblakelarose.com
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Brandon Olivares via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 11:51 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Cc: Brandon Olivares
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] The Purpose of This List
>> 
>> I wouldn’t go that far. If Islamic topics are banned, then so should be
>> Christian topics. As David said, this is not a Christian list. It is a list
>> about faith.
>> 
>> I agree Mostafa goes overboard, but there shouldn’t be a blanket ban of
>> Muslims posting. Your own opinions about Islam, or any other faith, are
>> exactly that: your opinions.
>> 
>> Brandon
>> > On Sep 3, 2016, at 11:45 PM, Emanuel via Faith-Talk
>> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Amen please dont poste things about islam here
>> > Skickat från min kapsys
>> >
>> > Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> skrev:
>> >
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> I guess I need to post this again, even though it says it in the
>> >> header, and maybe the footer of all the messges.  This list is
>> >> for the discussion of faith and blindness.  Because I am a born
>> >> again believer in Christ, I have allowed prayer requests, quotes,
>> >> and articles that speak to listers who share them with us.  I
>> >> believe that it's important, especially in these last days before
>> >> Christ snatches His own away from this earth, to support and
>> >> encourage each other.
>> >>
>> >> As for Adam, he's been asked not to post his false teachings
>> >> here, but I can't stop him, and I can't unsubscribe him.  I don't
>> >> believe that he is blind, either.  The best thing to do with his
>> >> posts is to delete them without responding.  The best thing to do
>> >> for him is to pray for his soul's salvation.  First, though, he
>> >> has to believe what the Bible says.  He believes that he has had
>> >> additional revelations, including that the exodus hasn't
>> >> happened, but will soon.
>> >>
>> >> As for Mostafa, he's a Muslim living in Egypt, and is blind, as
>> >> far as I know.  He just wants to post his Islamic propoganda, and
>> >> will not respond to anything we say in response.  He doesn't
>> >> count what we believe as important, and wants us to convert to
>> >> Islam.  So, do the same with his posts: delete them without
>> >> responding.  Pray for the salvation of his soul.  His God is not
>> >> the one Christians worship.  Our God would not command us to kill
>> >> those who disagree with us about morality and the Bible, but
>> >> counts every life as precious because He created us all.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, this is still a free country, and people are free to join
>> >> and post to this list as long as they are respectful of all the
>> >> listers.  Use discretion.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Linda Mentink, List Moderator
>> >>
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