[Faith-talk] Not necessary

Sat Jul 1 20:04:16 UTC 2017

Debby,
no problem, you were not offensive.
That's interesting to know you headed a list too. I could never do that.

Take care.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Debby Phillips via Faith-Talk
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2017 3:55 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: Debby Phillips
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Not necessary

Ashley, Linda's message unfortunately did go to the whole list, as 
apparently my message back to her did as well. I was using my Braillenote 
Touch and my message unfortunately went to the whole list. I understand the 
difficulty of moderating list too.  I have been a moderator. I certainly 
meant no offense but emails don't always convey tone. I got ago, but I 
really did not mean any offence. Debbie

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Linda did not send any reprimand message out to the list.
> She might have sent one privately to Jenny.
>
> Debby, list moderators send warning messages off lists to people when they 
> break the rules. Jenny said something on list that called attention to 
> what happened off list. Jenny is the one who sent this message called "not 
> necessary".
>
> Messages about behavior are often private.
> I know because I've gotten some myself for other lists.
> If a list member sends out messages with inappropriate language,
> action is taken. That has happened on other lists I've been on as well 
> through   NFB.
> There is a list member who says bad language sometimes on the nabs-l list 
> and then
> is publicly warned to watch their language. They may be privately warned 
> as well, but I don't know because I do not know what private messages they 
> get.
>
> Debby, this is not just a faith talk thing. I've seen the same things on 
> other NFB lists.
> Civility and not cluttering lists with repetetive messages is critically 
> important to running a NFB list where volunteers moderate multiple lists. 
> There are many lists  on the NFB server and they all have to be run 
> smoothly.
> Are you aware Linda moderates two lists? She is not paid for it and has to 
> read and sift through all messages to ensure no one is flamed and that 
> lists run smoothly.
> I am very thankful we have so many volunteers out there. Without 
> volunteers, we would not have the benefit of so many NFB lists; there are 
> over a hundred of them. It is because volunteers care to connect people 
> who share common interests that they volunteer to head up lists.
>
>
> I know Linda was a bit hurt, but I think things have calmed down and she 
> did appologize for her part in any offense taken as well.
>
> So, now we can move forward. Just my two sents.
>
> Ashley
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: debby phillips via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 9:15 PM
> To: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
> Cc: semisweetdebby at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Not necessary
>
> Linda, I'm sure that this has been whifficult for you. I understand that 
> Jenny's email messages are not easy to read and understand. I read a 
> message that you sent to her, and her response to you. But I still 
> question why it was necessary to send her massage to you. I think Jenny 
> has some mental issues that make her repeat herself a lot, and I also 
> think that Jenny is not trying to be offensive, but she feels angry and 
> hurt. I also believe that she has unsubscribed, so sending this message 
> out to the list was not necessary, and actually a bit mean-spirited.
>
> You are also angry and hurt, because you feel that you are doing your best 
> and all you have received, it seems is criticism and reproach. I know you 
> want this list to be a good list, but I think it is important to pray 
> before sending a response about another person to the whole list. Please 
> Linda, let's not make this a war. Pray for Jenny and try to love her as 
> she is. Blessings,    Debby
>> On Jun 29, 2017 2:51 PM, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> This might be Jenny's response to me when I explained to her for
>> the second time about digest mode.  I wasn't sarcastic, and I
>> didn't swear at her, nothing like that! And this is the way she
>> treats me! I wrote her off list; she makes it public! I write
>> this so that you all know what her message may be about.
>>
>> Or, it may be about the private message I sent to her asking her
>> to watch her language!----- Original Message ----- From: Jenny Keller via 
>> Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 16:16:14 -0500
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Not necessary
>>
>> I wrote this on the list so that if anyone has a problem with it
>> or if anyone thinks I said it wrong please tell me.
>>
>> Linda, if I understood it the first time I wouldn't have passed
>> it the second time and I wouldn't have asked it the second time
>> if I understood it as many times as I could have read it.  So
>> that kind of garbage is not necessary.  And if that gets me in
>> trouble then so be it
>>
>> And if that kind of garbage is going to come out of people's
>> mouth that are supposed to be faithful and about faith on this
>> list that I don't need to be on it.  So, I guess we should all
>> keep it in check and believe me crap is less offensive than what
>> you wrote
>>
>>
>> Jenny
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