[Faith-talk] Bible sources

[Ashley Bramlett]

Sandra,

I prefer devices with buttons for the same reasons.
I see your issues with touch screens. They are intimidating and I tried one 
with my ipod nano. The issue with the screen is they are so, so, sensative 
and you have to keep your finger right in place to lift it and double tap 
the right icon.

You might look into the Gusto 3 phone. It speaks the menus and can do basic 
stuff for the internet including email.
You might write to the NFB electronics list for more info as I do not have 
much info on it and even if I did, its off topic here.

I'm no expert on those phones and tablets, but I believe on an android 
device, you can do a split tap which means you tap once to hear the icon 
spoken and hold your finger there and tap elsewhere  to activate the icon; 
of course, this also requires some hand coordination; but IMO it might be 
better than double tapping.

As I said before, there are other options to surf the internet, email and 
read accessible books such as faith material.
These ways have keyboards or devices with buttons.

You can use the pc and internet to download material such as podcasts and 
books. Once done, you can listen to them on a number of devices.
I believe android phones and the nexis have the ability to attach bluetooth 
keyboards.

Other devices are stand alone book readers. For instance, there is the vr 
stream, book sense, and braille notetakers can do all the internet stuff and 
read books.
The braille Note and Braille Sense polaris can do all these things.
True its not as small as a phone, but, its light weight, portable, and has 
buttons.

I would also guess the Amazon echo might be able to do all this stuff too. 
Has anyone used it to go online and get anything faith related such as a 
book, electronic devotional, or Bible text?

As to Bible sources, there are bibles in all formats. Electronic text is not 
the only way.
You can get bibles in audio form from a number of nonprofits. Lutheran 
Braille Workers produces
braille Bibles.

What other technology do you have  or want other than the pc?
What do you need for sources? Is audio your only way? There are braille 
sources too around.

Ashley


-----Original Message----- 
From: Sandra Streeter via Faith-Talk
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 12:00 AM
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Subject: [Faith-talk] Bible sources

Yes, I spend most time on the computer, since I am still pretty frustrated 
with touch screens. Even doing a double-tap doesn’t work for me—I can think 
I’m in the same place with the second tap, and end up instead hitting a 
different area—it’s easy to do on a touch screen where you may have half an 
inch or an inch between items. It might be different if there were 
orientation marks on the phone so you could have more control to stay where 
you are during a multi-gesture command. But I just don’t like gestures, and 
using my computer gives me ultimate control that using my cell does not. I 
wish there were a way to have a cell with real keys plus full capability to 
go on the Web, do emails, etc.—which was my goal when I got my ‘Droid, a 
Samsung Core Prime. Before that, I had a Nexus, but between still being very 
resistant to touch screens and the sounds annoying me, I left that for the 
CP. A one-size-fits-all approach, which is what the accessible cell phone 
industry seems to veer toward, doesn’t fit all—I don’t want to go back to a 
straight phone-phone (my very first, years ago, was a Haven; then, 
others—but you can’t do the Web with just that). Also, since I’m not much of 
a talker, doing the commands by voice is bothersome to me—I’d rather push a 
button. Okay, enough ranting.

On another topic, I’m sorry Jenny has left—she contributed a lot to our 
discussions. Hopefully lesson learned—we all need to be cognizant of the 
primacy of love; it doesn’t mean coddling, obviously, but it does have the 
patience to assist someone with an issue and not to complain when they’ve 
explained multiple times about their situation.



Sandra

Not “Revelation” – tis – that waits
But our unfurnished eyes –
(Emily Dickinson)

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