[Faith-talk] Faith-Talk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 21

Mon Jun 26 22:34:54 UTC 2017

Thanks Ashley!
I talk to Jenny a lot on the phone, so most of what I said was based upon what we have talked about in private. On this public list, I will really watch what I say and how I say it from now on!
Have a blessed one, all of you!
David Moore
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From: Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:26 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: Ashley Bramlett
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Faith-Talk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 21

David,

I'm a  Protestant, too. A difference between Catholics and Protestants is 
about salvation.
However, Jenny must like the Catholic church so pointing out what they 
believe or do not believe is not helpful.
It was not anti catholic in my opinion, but it was not really what Jenny was 
asking about.

While what you say about the Catholic church is mostly true, if a person 
wants to go there on the list, we should not dissuade that.
I think her delima is about  transit, not faith.

So, IMO its best to really read and think about what the person is asking 
before replying.

Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: David Moore via Faith-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:38 PM
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Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Faith-Talk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 21

Hi Jenny!
I am not sure why I am receiving a digest. I have always received every 
message that comes in. Anyway, You should really pray about attending a 
catholic church, because they add to what Jesus did on the cross to be 
saved. What jesus already did for us to save us completely, isn’t enough for 
the catholic church, they add works to a perfect plan of salvation only by 
what Jesus did for us on the cross. For the Catholic, it is faith and works 
that saves. Romans and so many places in the new Testament, makes it so 
clear that we are by saved by faith and only by faith in the work that Jesus 
did for us on the cross. The Priest has no more power than any of us does in 
Jesus Christ. We are all the same with just as much of the Holy spirit as 
anymone can get. The priest believes that he has special powers to actually 
turn the bread into the litteral body of Christ. When particular people, 
like the pope is thought to have a special access to God than we do, that is 
not of God what so ever. We all have the same access to the throne of God 
through Christ. Hierarchy in the church is man made. The Church that Jesus 
set up through the apostles, had more than one elder for each church. The 
idea of one person over many churches, did not Occur until the 300s. What I 
want you to consintrate on, though, is that the Gospel of the Catholic 
church, is not the gospel that the apostles preached under the power of the 
holy spirit. Paul said in Galatians chapter 1, that if anyone preaches a 
gospel other than what we have already preached, let that giver of this 
different gospel be eternally condemned. That is a serious penalty for not 
preaching the gospel that the apostles did under the direction of God. God 
spoke through the apostles, and they preached the only gospel there is, 
faith and only faith in Jesus Christ can save you. If any works are added, 
then the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ for your sins is not enough for 
you. No other works are needed for salvation, but this is what the catholic 
church believes. It is a slippery road to go down, I really wish that you 
could find a church that preaches that faith in Jesus is all one needs for 
salvation. Just a simpleBible preaching, Bible believing, and only the Bible 
believing church. Catholics come right out and say that the tradition of the 
church is just as important as the Bible. There is nothing but the Bible. 
The traditions of men is nothing. All that God has to say to us is in the 
Bible, and there is none else. The Catholic church holds its traditions up 
as just as much the word of God as the Bible is. You want no part of that! 
Wow, Jenny, I will call you Tuesday afternoon and have a good talk with you 
about all of this! Does anyone know why I was switched to a digest? Is this 
list only a digest list now?
God bless,
Have a great one!
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From: Erica Turner via Faith-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Faith-Talk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 21

Jenny,

I think that you should pray about this. You will never go wrong and you 
always hear the right answer.

I hope that this helps.

"I never cut class. I love getting A's. I like being smart. I like being on 
time. I think that being smart is cooler than anything in the 
world."--Michelle Obama

Erica J. Turner
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> Hi there, I just found an Orthodox Catholic church, which is completely in 
> line with the Roman Catholic Church. I'm not sure if it is in the Roman 
> church is jurisdiction. So, I'm going to wait till Monday to find out. 
> However, my friend only go to certain churches. And I am uncomfortable 
> asking them to go to another church. It's a little bit farther away.
>
> I either have a choice between the Latin mass, which I like, still 
> learning though, or, the regular Catholic Church. That does English. That 
> rushes. Anyhow, I'm just not sure. I don't know how big the catholic 
> Orthodox churches. But, I know they're in line with the if the pope.
>
> I have an app called OneParish, and it is in there. So, I don't know, 
> going to call the priest on Monday. So, what do you figure out what to do. 
> I want to see if I can get a ride from somebody there. I'm about 5 1/2 
> minutes from there. So, it's going to be interesting. If it's going to be 
> a major deal with my friend, then, I would rather go ahead and go to the 
> churches they go to. They have a Saturday mass as well. So, it depends 
> heart. I want to be careful and want to make sure that my friends don't 
> have to go out of their way. They would. But I'm uncomfortable just 
> putting more on them. Talk to you later. But, want to know what you think.
>
>
> Jenny
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> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 06:02:35 -0400
> From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and
>    religion'"    <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> You got uber or lyft?
> Justin
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> Cc: Jenny Keller <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Dilemma
>
> Hi there, I just found an Orthodox Catholic church, which is completely in
> line with the Roman Catholic Church. I'm not sure if it is in the Roman
> church is jurisdiction. So, I'm going to wait till Monday to find out.
> However, my friend only go to certain churches. And I am uncomfortable
> asking them to go to another church. It's a little bit farther away.
>
> I either have a choice between the Latin mass, which I like, still 
> learning
> though, or, the regular Catholic Church. That does English. That rushes.
> Anyhow, I'm just not sure. I don't know how big the catholic Orthodox
> churches. But, I know they're in line with the if the pope.
>
> I have an app called OneParish, and it is in there. So, I don't know, 
> going
> to call the priest on Monday. So, what do you figure out what to do. I 
> want
> to see if I can get a ride from somebody there. I'm about 5 1/2 minutes 
> from
> there. So, it's going to be interesting. If it's going to be a major deal
> with my friend, then, I would rather go ahead and go to the churches they 
> go
> to. They have a Saturday mass as well. So, it depends heart. I want to be
> careful and want to make sure that my friends don't have to go out of 
> their
> way. They would. But I'm uncomfortable just putting more on them. Talk to
> you later. But, want to know what you think.
>
>
> Jenny
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