[Faith-talk] Faith-Talk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 21

Tue Jun 27 00:40:04 UTC 2017

David,

Glad to clarify. If you spoke to Jenny via phone, that's even better and 
knowing this history does help and makes more sense to put your message in 
context.
People should definitely think about joining a church first and see if that 
is what they want and good points IMO on the Catholic beliefs.

Hopefully Jenny will make a good decision for her.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: David Moore via Faith-Talk
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 6:34 PM
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Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Faith-Talk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 21

Thanks Ashley!
I talk to Jenny a lot on the phone, so most of what I said was based upon 
what we have talked about in private. On this public list, I will really 
watch what I say and how I say it from now on!
Have a blessed one, all of you!
David Moore
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From: Ashley Bramlett via Faith-Talk
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 5:26 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
Cc: Ashley Bramlett
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Faith-Talk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 21

David,

I'm a  Protestant, too. A difference between Catholics and Protestants is
about salvation.
However, Jenny must like the Catholic church so pointing out what they
believe or do not believe is not helpful.
It was not anti catholic in my opinion, but it was not really what Jenny was
asking about.

While what you say about the Catholic church is mostly true, if a person
wants to go there on the list, we should not dissuade that.
I think her delima is about  transit, not faith.

So, IMO its best to really read and think about what the person is asking
before replying.

Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: David Moore via Faith-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 6:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Faith-Talk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 21

Hi Jenny!
I am not sure why I am receiving a digest. I have always received every
message that comes in. Anyway, You should really pray about attending a
catholic church, because they add to what Jesus did on the cross to be
saved. What jesus already did for us to save us completely, isn’t enough for
the catholic church, they add works to a perfect plan of salvation only by
what Jesus did for us on the cross. For the Catholic, it is faith and works
that saves. Romans and so many places in the new Testament, makes it so
clear that we are by saved by faith and only by faith in the work that Jesus
did for us on the cross. The Priest has no more power than any of us does in
Jesus Christ. We are all the same with just as much of the Holy spirit as
anymone can get. The priest believes that he has special powers to actually
turn the bread into the litteral body of Christ. When particular people,
like the pope is thought to have a special access to God than we do, that is
not of God what so ever. We all have the same access to the throne of God
through Christ. Hierarchy in the church is man made. The Church that Jesus
set up through the apostles, had more than one elder for each church. The
idea of one person over many churches, did not Occur until the 300s. What I
want you to consintrate on, though, is that the Gospel of the Catholic
church, is not the gospel that the apostles preached under the power of the
holy spirit. Paul said in Galatians chapter 1, that if anyone preaches a
gospel other than what we have already preached, let that giver of this
different gospel be eternally condemned. That is a serious penalty for not
preaching the gospel that the apostles did under the direction of God. God
spoke through the apostles, and they preached the only gospel there is,
faith and only faith in Jesus Christ can save you. If any works are added,
then the perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ for your sins is not enough for
you. No other works are needed for salvation, but this is what the catholic
church believes. It is a slippery road to go down, I really wish that you
could find a church that preaches that faith in Jesus is all one needs for
salvation. Just a simpleBible preaching, Bible believing, and only the Bible
believing church. Catholics come right out and say that the tradition of the
church is just as important as the Bible. There is nothing but the Bible.
The traditions of men is nothing. All that God has to say to us is in the
Bible, and there is none else. The Catholic church holds its traditions up
as just as much the word of God as the Bible is. You want no part of that!
Wow, Jenny, I will call you Tuesday afternoon and have a good talk with you
about all of this! Does anyone know why I was switched to a digest? Is this
list only a digest list now?
God bless,
Have a great one!
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From: Erica Turner via Faith-Talk
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 5:33 PM
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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Faith-Talk Digest, Vol 119, Issue 21

Jenny,

I think that you should pray about this. You will never go wrong and you
always hear the right answer.

I hope that this helps.

"I never cut class. I love getting A's. I like being smart. I like being on
time. I think that being smart is cooler than anything in the
world."--Michelle Obama

Erica J. Turner
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> From: Jenny Keller <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
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> Hi there, I just found an Orthodox Catholic church, which is completely in
> line with the Roman Catholic Church. I'm not sure if it is in the Roman
> church is jurisdiction. So, I'm going to wait till Monday to find out.
> However, my friend only go to certain churches. And I am uncomfortable
> asking them to go to another church. It's a little bit farther away.
>
> I either have a choice between the Latin mass, which I like, still
> learning though, or, the regular Catholic Church. That does English. That
> rushes. Anyhow, I'm just not sure. I don't know how big the catholic
> Orthodox churches. But, I know they're in line with the if the pope.
>
> I have an app called OneParish, and it is in there. So, I don't know,
> going to call the priest on Monday. So, what do you figure out what to do.
> I want to see if I can get a ride from somebody there. I'm about 5 1/2
> minutes from there. So, it's going to be interesting. If it's going to be
> a major deal with my friend, then, I would rather go ahead and go to the
> churches they go to. They have a Saturday mass as well. So, it depends
> heart. I want to be careful and want to make sure that my friends don't
> have to go out of their way. They would. But I'm uncomfortable just
> putting more on them. Talk to you later. But, want to know what you think.
>
>
> Jenny
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> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 06:02:35 -0400
> From: "Justin Williams" <justin.williams2 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and
>    religion'"    <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
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> You got uber or lyft?
> Justin
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> Keller via Faith-Talk
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> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Jenny Keller <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Dilemma
>
> Hi there, I just found an Orthodox Catholic church, which is completely in
> line with the Roman Catholic Church. I'm not sure if it is in the Roman
> church is jurisdiction. So, I'm going to wait till Monday to find out.
> However, my friend only go to certain churches. And I am uncomfortable
> asking them to go to another church. It's a little bit farther away.
>
> I either have a choice between the Latin mass, which I like, still
> learning
> though, or, the regular Catholic Church. That does English. That rushes.
> Anyhow, I'm just not sure. I don't know how big the catholic Orthodox
> churches. But, I know they're in line with the if the pope.
>
> I have an app called OneParish, and it is in there. So, I don't know,
> going
> to call the priest on Monday. So, what do you figure out what to do. I
> want
> to see if I can get a ride from somebody there. I'm about 5 1/2 minutes
> from
> there. So, it's going to be interesting. If it's going to be a major deal
> with my friend, then, I would rather go ahead and go to the churches they
> go
> to. They have a Saturday mass as well. So, it depends heart. I want to be
> careful and want to make sure that my friends don't have to go out of
> their
> way. They would. But I'm uncomfortable just putting more on them. Talk to
> you later. But, want to know what you think.
>
>
> Jenny
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