[Faith-talk] dilema

Wed Jun 28 04:07:04 UTC 2017

Jenny, will call you soon, really busy now.    Blessings,    Debby
On Jun 27, 2017 7:54 PM, Jenny Keller via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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> Hi, 
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> I actually have more of an opportunity to get to the Latin right. 
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> To be very honest, after I have seen the land right, and read it in English. I feel like they're a little more in depth than English mass. I know of course that the Latin right is where the English mass comes from, but still, there's something about it that makes me more reverent. I have had priests that tell me that they get phone calls if the mass is longer than an hour. It's crazy. When you walk out the door of the cathedral you see a huge clock on the wall between the doorway of the church and the balcony Ed. Insane. So, it's really not fun for me at all. I know, even though it's their judgment and not mine, it's distracting when people get up and leave because they have done their duty for an hour. It bothers me greatly. It's not just one or two people either, but you know that. 
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> Innoway, I feel like the Latin right is a lot more reverent. And Lord knows it doesn't matter how long that mass takes, they are going to stay there, short of an emergency only. They also have more of a fellowship there. Which, they know this ordo masses that I have seen so far, really don't. They talk about having one and they announce one, but nobody really goes. 
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> A friend and I were talking about that a couple of weeks ago, and she was young, but she basically said, that we are so selfish today that we can't take the time to get to know our community. Which, is the communion that we received in church, not just the communion with the Saints in Christ, but the communion with each other. 
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> The other possibility the Orthodox Church, I could probably get to every now and then, but, I sort of have that situation where I want to be a part of the parish on a regular basis, so my friend what products would try to take me as much as they could, it wouldn't be something I would really be able to get to. I would rather not go to a parish and like it, and not be able to go regularly. 
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> Regular attendance at a parish really makes you able to have friendships and build opportunities in the church to serve. 
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> I don't want to just take from the church. I want to get as much as I can to. I want people to see that life is just normal for me, much less everyone else. There are people with disabilities there too. They have one us to stick guy who screams and mask all the time. And no one says a word. They have a boy that has down syndrome who likes the regular lot but likes to sit in the front row. So,  nobody even says anything. And the priest, even if it affected him, wouldn't have said anything either, but I wasn't there for his first mass. 
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> I want to give to the church. I want to show my love for the church. Whether it be anything, it doesn't matter. I may not be good at cooking and cleaning, that's not my forte. However, there are things I can do and it hurt. There's all kind of encouragement I could give to father cocktail and I want to do that. I want to be his little person that gives him a lift sometimes when he needs it when he doesn't say  but he really does. He is so blessed by everyone who is at the church. And I only met him once a day I threw up in confession, and even then, I can tell you, he was the best confessor I ever had. Such a wonderful voice. Such kindness. Such a beauty. 
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> I almost heard what Jesus would have said. And I almost hurt well I heard, the humility and his voice. Not that big I'm a priest thing, but humility. It was very wonderful to hear.  When I have questions about something in the lead right that I don't understand yet, or shoot, about the church I don't understand yet, it's OK for me to call and ask. It's OK for me to grab him a little after church and ask questions anyway. 
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> I love the reference, I love the fact that whether it's Latin or English, it never changes, nothing will ever change. Maybe an piece of order every now and then, or a little bit of guitar or something, but never will it change. It will never become rock 'n' roll, it will never be a lovefest. It will always be a mass. 
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> And seeing that little girl the one that used to run and hug me every mass that I have been away from her for a year and a half or two years, she had gotten bigger. But love to hug me anyway. When she left, she ran up and hugged me anyway. Just to let me know if she was leaving, she wouldn't say a word though. She just hug me. She really wasn't sure that she should in the beginning, my friend took me over there to see her, and I told her how big she got. And I asked her did she want to hug me and she reached and hug me. It was beautiful. After that, it was Helen hug time. It didn't matter if she saw me passing, or anything else, it was always Helen hugs for Jenny. 
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> I met a woman who was a schoolteacher that taught my buddy Brittany. And, Brittany introduced me. We were talking about music and possibly feeling like maybe I could get in the choir to. But I was a little nervous about the music director. Well, her response was. This guy has been in so many choirs it doesn't begin to be funny. And I'm sure, but the amount of choir experience that he has had, that you were not the first  person with a disability of some sort to show up and ask. That I needed to just ask, and not be afraid, not be nervous, just ask. And be willing to talk to him about whatever that he feels uncomfortable with.  I like to do that anyway. 
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> St. Mary's doesn't have a lot of activities going on. But I think that father is trying to change that. He is always taking up severe money to work with the city and the church on ramp situations. They had never had one before. And, fixing that chair lift, oh I think it was a miracle. I sent Dr. down on it because of my vertigo, and I put the foot rest down. I said oh that's a miracle.  No one had be been able to do that before. So, mother is really working on trying to make the church accessible for everyone. Sorry, father. 
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> I have come up and found some really neat rosaries. So, you'll have to text me off list to get more info, 
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> Also, I have found on YouTube the rosary and song, and they're awesome, you say the rosary by singing it. It's the most beautiful and peaceful thing ever. Anyhow, I'm sure that people have something to say about that with you. 
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> Give me a text if you want to talk but to uglies rosaries are amazing, especially one of them, you'll have to email me the find out :-) 
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> Thank you for your input. Do you remember when it was just Latin? What do you think. Jenny 
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> > On Jun 25, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Patrick Gormley via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote: 
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> > Let me see if I can help you solve your dilemma.  This is coming from 
> > someone who has been a catholic for over sixty years and is still one today. 
> > Whether the Mass is said in English or Latin, it's the same mass wherever 
> > you go.  If the English speaking church is closer, than by all means go 
> > there.  If you can get to the latin Church without it being inconvenient 
> > either for you or the person taking you, then go there.  I've been a lector 
> > for over 40 years and a Eucharistic minister for 12 years.  In any event, I 
> > hope the foregoing information helps you solve your dilemma. Patrick GOrmley 
> > 
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