[Faith-talk] Relationship Issues

Mon May 15 03:57:09 UTC 2017

thanks so much for the gist

On 5/14/17, Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Hi Sarah,
>
> I don't counsel women.  I'm just saying that this is what the
> Bible says, and we here in the church which I attend follow its
> teachings the best we can in this world where it either can't be,
> or isn't done that way.  It works for us, so it's not impossible.
> We live in an imperfect world, and of course I know that
> everybody can't do as we do here.  My message was not meant to
> cover all the bases.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Linda
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> To: "'Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and
> religion'"<faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 14 May 2017 23:44:23 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Relationship Issues
>
> Hi, Linda.
>
> I certainly appreciate your perspective on this.
>
> I also want to say that speaking as a female, the way that you
> are speaking has been used abusively by many conservative
> churches and there are many women who cannot, and do not have
> children to raise, or who cannot stay home due to the financial
> needs of their families.  Please bear these things in mind when
> you are speaking to women.  All Scripture has a context.  The
> words of Paul were written to churches in specific cultural
> situations.  Paul had no thought that they were ever to be used
> to direct the lives of American churches.  How we interpret these
> words needs to be against the similarity of the culture then and
> the culture now.  If we demand that the woman stay home and keep
> house and the result is that a family becomes impoverished, we
> have used Scripture to oppress and not as a tool of blessing.
> The reality is that many women in ancient times worked out of
> their homes and it is likely that the work they did contributed
> to their family's welfare both economically and otherwise.
> Because of cultural norms, the women did not do the trading.  The
> men did; but the likely traded goods that were produced by women.
> Please think on this before discouraging a woman from working and
> using her God-given gifts.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2017 10:46 PM
> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Relationship Issues
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have read with interest all the posts.  Quite a few things
> crossed my mind as I read.
>
> Firstly, Bill, as has been said, you're too eager, and will turn
> women off with this eagerness or pushiness.  A man tried that
> with me once.  I wasn't interested in marriage, but I gave him a
> chance.  He was a sighted man who played Bass Viol in the
> orchestra which accompanied a community choral group with which I
> sang for many years.  He was very oppressive, and was so full of
> himself, that I told him that there was no room for me, or anyone
> else in his life.  He asked me how to attract a woman.  I told
> him a few things!
>
> Secoddly, to Erica's point about "shacking up," this one really
> bothers me.  I don't know who made the rule in the Social
> Security Administration that people living on SSI lose income
> when they marry, encouraging even Christians to disobey God's
> Word the Bible.  God never said to forget marriage if you
> wouldn't have as much mone coming in.  I believe that this is a
> serious sin, and that God will not bless those relationships, and
> the people in them, as much as He will those who live their lives
> in obedience to Him.  Those who do this are defiling the marriage
> bed, and committing adultery.  Shame on the American leadership
> for putting this rule forward and enforcing it!
>
> Thirdly, anyone desiring to be married should study the passages
> on this in the Bible, especially if they are Christians.  We are
> not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers, so fellowship with
> those of like precious faith.  The blind Christian needs to
> handle himself or herself appropriately, and must be confident,
> not helpless and dependent on others.  Marriage is a partnership,
> and a sighted person is not going to even want to enter into a
> marriage relationship with a blind person who can't take care of
> themselves.  As to how far you should go, keep your clothes on.
> And, if you're a man, and you can't support a woman, get a job.
> God commands mothers to be keepers at home, which society has
> disobeyed.  The man is to be the head of the home, as Christ is
> the head of the Church, and its up to him to provide for his
> family.  The woman should stay at home and raise the children.
> That's the Biblical plan.  Some have worked it out so that the
> woman goes to work and the man stays home, in the case of some
> blind friends I know.  And in some cases, both work.  It's tough
> to figure this all out, but it should be done prayerfully.
>
> I am 61, and have remained single and a virgin.  I have had
> relationships over the years, but they didn't work out.  I am
> very content as a single woman.  Paul encourages us to be as he
> is, thereby being able to serve the Lord more fully.  Because I
> don't have to divide my time between taking care of a husband and
> family and serving my Lord, I can be single-minded inservice to
> Him.  I know many who serve the Lord together as couples, and
> most couples I know and fellowship with are happy, well-adjusted
> people raising their children in the church.
>
> If we are willing to obey God's precepts, we will save ourselves
> from a lot of heartache.  Commit your way to the Lord, and He
> will give you the desires of your heart.
>
> I hope this makes sense!
>
> Blessings,
>
> Linda
>
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