[Faith-talk] Ridiculous!

Fri May 19 16:08:21 UTC 2017

Thank you. It must've been God given because it never popped into my head before. See? This faith talk list has a lot of good things to it! The tricky part however is getting people to have the courage to do it. We try to invite politicians to state conventions and such. Maybe meetings and state conventions are where we need to start? Lot less travel but still hopefully a positive experience. Pastor Tom, do you have any ideas?

This is something the Wisconsin faith division can do in the future.

Ericka Short
from my iPhone 6+

> On May 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Rob Kaiser via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I like your idea on inviting all religious people to attend our conventions
> ETC. One of the things the NFB needs to do more of is educate the general
> public. I think we do a good job in that, but sometimes we don't do enough. 
> 
> Rob Kaiser
> Email;
> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ericka
> via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 8:26 AM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
> 
> Sometimes it's not the doctrine; it's just bylaws have not been rewritten.
> It can be so simple as written where when a minister becomes disabled they
> are considered unfit for full-time ministerial duty. Kind of like parts of
> the ADA where "reasonable accommodations" are easily misinterpreted these
> bylaws are general to cover all sorts of accidents and of course I think it
> probably goes back to when there were much less technology and ways to do
> things as there are now. Plus I think the focus for disability organizations
> on the employment field and such is good but we kind of dropped the ball on
> educating congregations and leaders at the top. Perhaps we should be
> inviting our pastors, bishops etc. to the national Federation of the blind
> convention so they can see for themselves.  Just an idea I thought of right
> now.
> 
> The tricky part here with congregations is the day you don't have to abide
> by the ADA kind a like they don't have to pay taxes. They get the special
> privilege because their faith based, but in reality it comes down to money
> and misunderstanding because they are human and things don't happen the way
> they should. I understand we are a country with separation of church and
> state but I really wish that the ADA was a enforced for faith-based
> organizations including congregations as well!
> 
> Ericka Short from my iPhone 6+
> 
>> On May 18, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Linda, it is very difficult to read your posts sometimes. Among Christians
> there is a diversity of Biblical interpretation, including regarding issues
> of women and men. I am not sure if you realize it, but some Christian groups
> believe that it is false doctrine to hold the view that people with
> disabilities can be practicing ministers.
>> 
>> Please try to be more respectful of those of us who hold differing
> Biblical interpretations.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linda
> Mentink via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:37 PM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>> 
>> Oops! I thought Rob was misunderstanding what I said about the church of
> which I
>> 
>> am a member, even though it was a reply to Melissa and Ericka.  
>> My apologies.  Women can't help such a thing!
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Linda ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 18 May 2017 21:30:54 -0500
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>> 
>> Hi Rob,
>> 
>> I never said my church shuns women who can't have children.
>> Please read the posts carefully so you don't rant and rave about
> falsehoods.
>> 
>> Many people nowadays have transportation issues, or can't find a church
> where the Word of God isn't compromised.  The Bible says that people will
> have itching ears, and that's part of it.
>> Pastors and leaders are preaching false doctrines and watering down the
> Gospel.  For many, the internet has to be their source for worship with
> others, which is really unfortunate.  I hope you can find a church where you
> can be spiritually fed, and where you can get back and forth.  More and
> more, church leaders don't want disabled attendees or members.  That's not
> Biblical, of course, but that doesn't matter to them.  Many don't use the
> Bible much or at all anymore.
>> 
>> Some of these things are why the National Federation of the Blind in
> Communities of Faith division was formed.  Some can't get transportation;
> some can't get accessiblematerials; some aren't allowed to minister because
> they're blind.  Sometime having the advocacy of a national organization is
> helpful!
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
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