[Faith-talk] Ridiculous!

Fri May 19 16:11:31 UTC 2017

That is a wonderful story Justin! Oh and congratulations on the baptism. My sisters didn't get their kids baptized, but I was very blessed to attend the baptism of all four of my now ex-husband's nieces and nephews. Those kids really enriched my life and I am blessed that their families have kept me up-to-date through Facebook though I am no longer technically family. 

Ericka Short from my iPhone 6+

> On May 19, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Justin Williams via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> At the catholic confirmation I attended for my cousin a few weeks ago, the
> head priest was an individual with a physical disability.  They tried to
> take his duties from him in the church, but he held on and fought off the
> dogs snapping at his heals.  I sure gave him a thumbs up and a solute. 
> Justin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ericka
> via Faith-Talk
> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 11:26 AM
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> Cc: Ericka <dotwriter1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
> 
> Sometimes it's not the doctrine; it's just bylaws have not been rewritten.
> It can be so simple as written where when a minister becomes disabled they
> are considered unfit for full-time ministerial duty. Kind of like parts of
> the ADA where "reasonable accommodations" are easily misinterpreted these
> bylaws are general to cover all sorts of accidents and of course I think it
> probably goes back to when there were much less technology and ways to do
> things as there are now. Plus I think the focus for disability organizations
> on the employment field and such is good but we kind of dropped the ball on
> educating congregations and leaders at the top. Perhaps we should be
> inviting our pastors, bishops etc. to the national Federation of the blind
> convention so they can see for themselves.  Just an idea I thought of right
> now.
> 
> The tricky part here with congregations is the day you don't have to abide
> by the ADA kind a like they don't have to pay taxes. They get the special
> privilege because their faith based, but in reality it comes down to money
> and misunderstanding because they are human and things don't happen the way
> they should. I understand we are a country with separation of church and
> state but I really wish that the ADA was a enforced for faith-based
> organizations including congregations as well!
> 
> Ericka Short from my iPhone 6+
> 
>> On May 18, 2017, at 9:46 PM, Sarah Blake LaRose via Faith-Talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Linda, it is very difficult to read your posts sometimes. Among Christians
> there is a diversity of Biblical interpretation, including regarding issues
> of women and men. I am not sure if you realize it, but some Christian groups
> believe that it is false doctrine to hold the view that people with
> disabilities can be practicing ministers.
>> 
>> Please try to be more respectful of those of us who hold differing
> Biblical interpretations.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Faith-Talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Linda
> Mentink via Faith-Talk
>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2017 10:37 PM
>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of Blindness in faith and religion
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>> 
>> Oops! I thought Rob was misunderstanding what I said about the church of
> which I
>> 
>> am a member, even though it was a reply to Melissa and Ericka.  
>> My apologies.  Women can't help such a thing!
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Linda ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Linda Mentink via Faith-Talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> To: Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 18 May 2017 21:30:54 -0500
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Ridiculous!
>> 
>> Hi Rob,
>> 
>> I never said my church shuns women who can't have children.
>> Please read the posts carefully so you don't rant and rave about
> falsehoods.
>> 
>> Many people nowadays have transportation issues, or can't find a church
> where the Word of God isn't compromised.  The Bible says that people will
> have itching ears, and that's part of it.
>> Pastors and leaders are preaching false doctrines and watering down the
> Gospel.  For many, the internet has to be their source for worship with
> others, which is really unfortunate.  I hope you can find a church where you
> can be spiritually fed, and where you can get back and forth.  More and
> more, church leaders don't want disabled attendees or members.  That's not
> Biblical, of course, but that doesn't matter to them.  Many don't use the
> Bible much or at all anymore.
>> 
>> Some of these things are why the National Federation of the Blind in
> Communities of Faith division was formed.  Some can't get transportation;
> some can't get accessiblematerials; some aren't allowed to minister because
> they're blind.  Sometime having the advocacy of a national organization is
> helpful!
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Linda
>> 
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